2024 Fall Camp Thread

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Irish5Saint said:
Do you happen to remember what they were?

I know that Loy cost us Singleton when he gave a silent to ND and tossed in a CB that alerted PSU.
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The ones I remember are
1. He posted Intel that the staff preferred Elijah Paige over Monroe Freeling (which was true) when the staff wanted both however after that Freeling wasn't interested in ND
2. He posted Intel that Arnold Jackson was coming over the weekend, which he didn't want out, and lead to him not visiting.
3. He started the CJ Carr reclassification stuff which is you watch the Dante Moore interview at the 7 v 7 right after the commitment, DM said he liked ND but he heard that CJ is reclassify and he looked super defeated
 
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Irish5Saint said:
Do you happen to remember what they were?

I know that Loy cost us Singleton when he gave a silent to ND and tossed in a CB that alerted PSU.
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There was a lot of smoke around Loy and the Jackson Arnold visit.
 
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NDpendent said:
The ones I remember are
1. He posted Intel that the staff preferred Elijah Paige over Monroe Freeling (which was true) when the staff wanted both however after that Freeling wasn't interested in ND
2. He posted Intel that Arnold Jackson was coming over the weekend, which he didn't want out, and lead to him not visiting.
3. He started the CJ Carr reclassification stuff which is you watch the Dante Moore interview at the 7 v 7 right after the commitment, DM said he liked ND but he heard that CJ is reclassify and he looked super defeated
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After this is Loy welcome on campus?
 
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I know for a fact Loy and the staff had words regarding the whole Jackson Arnold debacle.
 
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Even if there isn’t as much direct access as before there are enough “friends of the program” to get the skinny on position battles and the like.

To me, OL is by far the most intriguing position because we potentially have major downgrades at tackle going on the road Week 1 against an elite DL.
 
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IrishLax said:
Even if there isn’t as much direct access as before there are enough “friends of the program” to get the skinny on position battles and the like.

To me, OL is by far the most intriguing position because we potentially have major downgrades at tackle going on the road Week 1 against an elite DL.
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Will be what wins or loses us the game. I actually think Jagusah is going to be an absolute beast, but will he be ready week 1 in a huge game and environment. RT scares the fuck outta me though.
 
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Te'o4Heisman said:
Will be what wins or loses us the game. I actually think Jagusah is going to be an absolute beast, but will he be ready week 1 in a huge game and environment. RT scares the fuck outta me though.
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At least both can run block. With Leonard and a nice stable of running backs that’s not a terrible fallback option.
 
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ND7983 said:
Prepare yourselves (depending on who you want at RT) for Wagoner being the #1 in fall camp. The staff is very happy with his progress in the off-season.
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I don't know if Wagner is "It" or not (not pennywise), but I'm very confident Baker is NOT "it".

To me, it's a good sign if wagner wins the RT spot.
 
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Not exactly a brave take, but I feel really good about this team. I think the OLine will get sorted in camp. Think about it this way - if you have to bet on one position group to over-perform, may as well pick the group that has had the best track record of recent NFL success. Every other position group stacks up very well against any we have had in the last five years. Gonna be a fun one!!
 
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ND7983 said:
Prepare yourselves (depending on who you want at RT) for Wagoner being the #1 in fall camp. The staff is very happy with his progress in the off-season.
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There have been some assumptions about this over the summer that this was always the direction it was heading, but the competition extended longer than it should have due to concerns over Tackles transferring and a need for depth.
Seems to add some validity to the theory given the timing.
 
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ND7983 said:
Prepare yourselves (depending on who you want at RT) for Wagoner being the #1 in fall camp. The staff is very happy with his progress in the off-season.
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Do we know Wagner’s current weight or when they update weights?
 
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IrishLax said:
Even if there isn’t as much direct access as before there are enough “friends of the program” to get the skinny on position battles and the like.

To me, OL is by far the most intriguing position because we potentially have major downgrades at tackle going on the road Week 1 against an elite DL.
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Te'o4Heisman said:
Will be what wins or loses us the game. I actually think Jagusah is going to be an absolute beast, but will he be ready week 1 in a huge game and environment. RT scares the fuck outta me though.
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I actually have more concerns at left guard then at RT. At right tackle I would love to see Wagner start with Lambert getting a rep every few plays, I feel like they will complement each other very well and we are likely to only have Lambert for three years so we have to get him reps early.
At Left Guard, I'm interested to see if Roco can win the job over Coogan. Coogan is a smart player and isn't going to make a lot of mistakes but he simply isn't as talented as Roco. We need Roco to have a good off-season, improve his footwork and win this job. I think this battle is the most important on this Oline.
 
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NDpendent said:
I actually have more concerns at left guard then at RT. At right tackle I would love to see Wagner start with Lambert getting a rep every few plays, I feel like they will complement each other very well and we are likely to only have Lambert for three years so we have to get him reps early.
At Left Guard, I'm interested to see if Roco can win the job over Coogan. Coogan is a smart player and isn't going to make a lot of mistakes but he simply isn't as talented as Roco. We need Roco to have a good off-season, improve his footwork and win this job. I think this battle is the most important on this Oline.
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Left guard is much less of a concern for me. 'Worst case' is the guy who started there all 13 games last year on a Joe Moore semi finalist line comes back at some amount improved.
Best case scenario is Coogan takes a larger step forward from already playing solid football or Spindler is an improvement over what Coogan did last year.
 
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SeekNDestroy said:
Do we know Wagner’s current weight or when they update weights?
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I don’t know his weight, but the team does.
And weight doesn’t matter as much as how he uses it. Look what happened to Fisher when he put on 25-30lbs of fat. Not good.
 
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Is anyone concerned that Jagusah has LT locked down? You’d have thought there’d be more competition there.
 
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SeekNDestroy said:
Do we know Wagner’s current weight or when they update weights?
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He is listed at 290, but I remember him being interviewed at the end of Spring Camp and he said he was at 293. Seems like he is gaining. And with his skill set I don't think that's too light.


Rocco at 330! Wow!
 
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Irish5Saint said:
Is anyone concerned that Jagusah has LT locked down? You’d have thought there’d be more competition there.
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This is going to sound sarcastic and it's not, but would you feel better if he was struggling to grab the starting roll against another RS freshman?
 
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benneboy said:
Left guard is much less of a concern for me. 'Worst case' is the guy who started there all 13 games last year on a Joe Moore semi finalist line comes back at some amount improved.
Best case scenario is Coogan takes a larger step forward from already playing solid football or Spindler is an improvement over what Coogan did last year.
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I think Coogan winning the job isn't best case scenario. If we want to have a good Oline we need Roco to win the job. Like I said Coogan is a smart player, I just don't see him as being talented enough to be our starting LG. Coogan would be a good guy to have as a backup to any of the interior Oline positions, he is smart, won't make a lot of mistake and won't give up many big plays. He shouldn't be your starter though
 
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We can always line up a TE on the edge to help chip the DE, especially for those plays where we need to give some time. Wagner's weight is a concern but let's see where he comes in next week for summer camp and, more importantly, where he ends up after camp. If he can hold on the weight gain, awesome, it not then let hope we have a good run game.
 
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