2023 - State of the Recruiting Class

[Crazy Balki]

They moved Bowen up, he's a top 40 player.

I won't have a feel for at least 1.5 years if these updates are good or bad.

Drayk Bowen, On3 dropped him from top 50 to outside the top 200.

Which...no.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Can't confirm for sure, but from what I can gather, On3 essentially has one guy doing evaluations and rankings for the whole country.

I mean, if that's true, then these rankings mean fuck all. That's not to rag on the guy, but that isn't a one man job. The idea that you have 1 guy evaluating hundreds of players' films is a purely idiotic business practice.

 

[Reaper97]

Can't confirm for sure, but from what I can gather, On3 essentially has one guy doing evaluations and rankings for the whole country.

I mean, if that's true, then these rankings mean fuck all. That's not to rag on the guy, but that isn't a one man job. The idea that you have 1 guy evaluating hundreds of players' films is a purely idiotic business practice.

It’s Charles Power, who was the lead at the Bama sight before.
He is getting ripped apart on multiple On3 sites. His rankings are horrible & completely biased to his previous region. He has 70 of the top 100 from his region.
He dropped Rhett out of the rankings all together. Dropped Bowen outside the 200 & Flanagan & Shuler, plummeted.
The worst part is his explanations. He is on the ND site answering to it & digging himself even a deeper hole. He doesn’t think Drayk Bowen is very athletic…despite being offered by the top football & baseball programs in the country.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Why do we care about On3 since there seems to be a consensus that it's garbage? Just ignore it and move on.

Also, lets not pull a Driskel and rag on On3 for dropping guys like Rhett and Bowen while simultaneously writing an article about Keely being #3 in the country per the same rankings. Can't stand that type of opportunistic hypocrisy.

 

[SoIll]

It’s Charles Power, who was the lead at the Bama sight before.
He is getting ripped apart on multiple On3 sites. His rankings are horrible & completely biased to his previous region. He has 70 of the top 100 from his region.
He dropped Rhett out of the rankings all together. Dropped Bowen outside the 200 & Flanagan & Shuler, plummeted.
The worst part is his explanations. He is on the ND site answering to it & digging himself even a deeper hole. He doesn’t think Drayk Bowen is very athletic…despite being offered by the top football & baseball programs in the country.

Yeah hes a clown. Rhett is getting better. Shuler been getting some nice offers. That said, I am not so sure he's off on Bowen though. 247 hinted at a drop for him as well. A lot of people aren't that high on Drayk

 

[Reaper97]

Why do we care about On3 since there seems to be a consensus that it's garbage? Just ignore it and move on.

Also, lets not pull a Driskel and rag on On3 for dropping guys like Rhett and Bowen while simultaneously writing an article about Keely being #3 in the country per the same rankings. Can't stand that type of opportunistic hypocrisy.

They are writing articles about Keeley and promoting his possible flip.
They talk about all his upcoming possible visits, but don’t mention his March visit to ND. Both the ND commits they moved up came with the caveat both are high flip commits.

 

[Reaper97]

Yeah hes a clown. Rhett is getting better. Shuler been getting some nice offers. That said, I am not so sure he's off on Bowen though. 247 hinted at a drop for him as well. A lot of people aren't that high on Drayk

I am high on Bowen.
Marcus Freeman is.
Brent Venables is.
Mike Elko is.

The same people who told me to look for Blake Fisher (when he was starting his Sophomore year at Avon), told me Drayk is legit.

 

[NDPhilly]

Think Drayk is ~Top 100 player. Don't really seen 5 star talent when he plays at least not yet.

 

[Dale]

He may not be a 5 star but he also is not LB #18 in a class where they put LB #1 as #63 overall.

 

[Dale]

Their problem is they legitimately think, or are pretending to think one guy Charles Power with some help from Gerry Hamilton can scout everyone. That is moronic to think, dumb to pretend to think is sufficient.

 

[NDGOLDEN]

What an embarrassing rankings lol. How do you look at Mpemba and think he’s 100 overall I mean that’s just asinine

 

[Whiskeyjack]

You guys really ought to cancel your On3 subscriptions. I know they were only $1 for the first year, but if they pull this sort of amateur bullsh!t and experience no direct financial consequence as a result, then they aren't going to change a thing. Don't encourage them.

 

[irishog77]

What an embarrassing rankings lol. How do you look at Mpemba and think he’s 100 overall I mean that’s just asinine

I'm sure I'm not the only one who sees this and his first thought is - Mbechka. (or whatever the hell his name was)

 

[NDGOLDEN]

You guys really ought to cancel your On3 subscriptions. I know they were only $1 for the first year, but if they pull this sort of amateur bullsh!t and experience no direct financial consequence as a result, then they aren't going to change a thing. Don't encourage them.

That’s very true. We are giving them a voice. I like singer tho that’s the only thing keeping me there

 

[Crazy Balki]

Why do we care about On3 since there seems to be a consensus that it's garbage? Just ignore it and move on.

Also, lets not pull a Driskel and rag on On3 for dropping guys like Rhett and Bowen while simultaneously writing an article about Keely being #3 in the country per the same rankings. Can't stand that type of opportunistic hypocrisy.

Well, for one, I like Mike Singer and respect him carrying things after Lou died.

Second, On3 is the new kid on the block and this is really some of the first exposures we're getting to their evaluation process.

It's also worth mentioning because these rankings are....REMARKABLY terrible. Like, Power isn't even trying to hide his bias.

There are only so many recruiting rankings, so when one is this bad and laughably biased, it's definitely worthy of the criticism it's receiving.

 

[chisea03]

Top150 Rover Firms Up Next Notre Dame Visit

One of the top-ranked linebackers from the class of 2023 will make his way to Notre Dame in the near future. Irish Illustrated has the latest.

247sports.com

 

[Dale]

Expanding on the On3 Alabama offer, ND commit article:

Prospect - ND offer date - Alabama offer date

Sedrick Irvin - 11/03/2020 - 4/11/2021
Cooper Flanagan - 08/06/2021 - 1/06/2022
Brenan Vernon - 1/31/2020 - 6/14/2021
Keon Keeley - 3/17/2021 - 1/14/2022
Justyn Rhett - 6/6/2021 - 6/26/2021
Adon Shuler - 5/13/2021 - 3/11/2022
Peyton Bowen - 3/17/2021 - 10/22/2021

A few others with current ND predictions:

Ronan Hanafin - 11/7/2021 - 3/29/2022
Christian Gray - 6/7/2021 - 3/12/2022

It’s something to remember in the debate of “is this happening to others” on kids visiting. Maybe, one factor is, ND (and that includes Elston and others) just really freaking nailed evals of these kids

 

[NDIrish88]

Expanding on the On3 Alabama offer, ND commit article:

Prospect - ND offer date - Alabama offer date

Sedrick Irvin - 11/03/2020 - 4/11/2021
Cooper Flanagan - 08/06/2021 - 1/06/2022
Brenan Vernon - 1/31/2020 - 6/14/2021
Keon Keeley - 3/17/2021 - 1/14/2022
Justyn Rhett - 6/6/2021 - 6/26/2021
Adon Shuler - 5/13/2021 - 3/11/2022
Peyton Bowen - 3/17/2021 - 10/22/2021

A few others with current ND predictions:

Ronan Hanafin - 11/7/2021 - 3/29/2022
Christian Gray - 6/7/2021 - 3/12/2022

It’s something to remember in the debate of “is this happening to others” on kids visiting. Maybe, one factor is, ND (and that includes Elston and others) just really freaking nailed evals of these kids

Agreed with this.

Separate question, when is the Justin Scott offer coming OR is he just not that good?

 

[Rasputin]

Expanding on the On3 Alabama offer, ND commit article:

Prospect - ND offer date - Alabama offer date

Sedrick Irvin - 11/03/2020 - 4/11/2021
Cooper Flanagan - 08/06/2021 - 1/06/2022
Brenan Vernon - 1/31/2020 - 6/14/2021
Keon Keeley - 3/17/2021 - 1/14/2022
Justyn Rhett - 6/6/2021 - 6/26/2021
Adon Shuler - 5/13/2021 - 3/11/2022
Peyton Bowen - 3/17/2021 - 10/22/2021

A few others with current ND predictions:

Ronan Hanafin - 11/7/2021 - 3/29/2022
Christian Gray - 6/7/2021 - 3/12/2022

It’s something to remember in the debate of “is this happening to others” on kids visiting. Maybe, one factor is, ND (and that includes Elston and others) just really freaking nailed evals of these kids

Great list. Looks like Notre Dame is doing Saban's triage.

 

[NDdomer2]

Expanding on the On3 Alabama offer, ND commit article:

Prospect - ND offer date - Alabama offer date

Sedrick Irvin - 11/03/2020 - 4/11/2021
Cooper Flanagan - 08/06/2021 - 1/06/2022
Brenan Vernon - 1/31/2020 - 6/14/2021
Keon Keeley - 3/17/2021 - 1/14/2022
Justyn Rhett - 6/6/2021 - 6/26/2021
Adon Shuler - 5/13/2021 - 3/11/2022
Peyton Bowen - 3/17/2021 - 10/22/2021

A few others with current ND predictions:

Ronan Hanafin - 11/7/2021 - 3/29/2022
Christian Gray - 6/7/2021 - 3/12/2022

It’s something to remember in the debate of “is this happening to others” on kids visiting. Maybe, one factor is, ND (and that includes Elston and others) just really freaking nailed evals of these kids

Bill Rees and Co. doing work.

What a benefit he has been for us. Here is to hoping we have some sort of succession planning. Would be hard to think Bill doesnt follow Tommy along his career.

 

[ulukinatme]

Bill Rees and Co. doing work.

What a benefit he has been for us. Here is to hoping we have some sort of succession planning. Would be hard to think Bill doesnt follow Tommy along his career.

That, or Bill gets poached by Saban since he's beating them to good recruits.

 

[Dale]

Dante, Keon and in general class stuff

 

[ThePiombino]

So question:

After Moore spurns us and Vizzina Drew Allar 2.0's us, where do we go? All-in on Sayin and pray that Buchner is the real deal? Or another diminutive 3* with moxie/led-footed 6'3" 4* (on one site)?

 

[Irish#1]

So question:

After we land land Moore and find out Buchner is the real deal, does Moore transfer?

 

[ThePiombino]

So question:

After we land land Moore and find out Buchner is the real deal, does Moore transfer?

If Buchner's the real deal, Moore sits one year max. And I'm sure the staff can get him plenty of PT in year 1 to keep him entertained, hand over reigns in '24.

 

[ulukinatme]

If Buchner's the real deal, Moore sits one year max. And I'm sure the staff can get him plenty of PT in year 1 to keep him entertained, hand over reigns in '24.

But what if...Pyne's the real deal?

 

[Dale]

Since I’ve been the messenger for many of the updates, I think it’s fair to also relay my opinion (and crow) that the Gug is confident Gug’d again on the Spring cycle. Last year I kinda saw it coming but might have drank some more Freeman juice this year. I think they thought they were a visit away more than they actually were. In the scheme of things, it’s not really that odd considering most of the country doesn’t have double digit commits or expects to at this stage but they really need to lockdown the commits with the end of spring here coming and June will end up being the important month, not as much March/April as we’d hope.

If we got arrow up on Keeley, Bowen etc it will be a success in the end, just not as big as one.

I’m also hoping to self jinx and eat double crow if they land some spring game visitors

 

[BrownerandFry]

So question:

After we land land Moore and find out Buchner is the real deal, does Moore transfer?

No! Buchner will have a great season. Moore wii sign. Fast forward to Spring 2024. Buchner and Moore take one look at the newly arrived Sayin. They say "bro!". Buchner moves to slot Moore to Wr announcing "we want to catch passes from Julian Sayin! Happy Easter

 

[stpeteirish]

Rhett decommittment dropped us to #2 on 247. Of course Texas Tech with 15 guys is #1. Their average rating is about 10 points below us.

 

[benneboy]

Any clues what this is?