2021 ND Season Previews

[BobbyMac]

When you guys come across Season Previews, please post them here.

Here's a random one that I just ran across and made me think we need a dump thread.



[TWEET]https://twitter.com/Clutch_SN/status/1427432210827784194[/TWEET]

 

[CHIDomer9]

Random is an apt description of that site.

 

[IrishEyes1900]

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/notre-dame-football-game-game-predictions-2021

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

https://athlonsports.com/college-football/notre-dame-football-game-game-predictions-2021

I don't understand why one of them would predict a loss at VT. That program has been in shambles, and there is an article from OFD that documents, quite well, that Lane Stadium is not the tough venue it's made out to be.

https://www.onefootdown.com/2018/10...sons-to-stop-fearing-blacksburg-virginia-tech

 

[rocboysfootball]

Notre Dame Football Season Preview

2021 Notre Dame Football Season Preview - YouTube

 

[rocboysfootball]

Let me know what you guys think

 

[Valpodoc85]

Man that is painful. Made it thru about 4 minutes. That is gonna be a no dog…

 

[Reaper97]

Lost me the first minute when you (like all the national media who don’t research), talked about returning starters.
ND lost 2 starting WRs in McKinley & Skowrenick, both would not have been starters if not for injuries to Austin & Lenzy, which are both back. WR group is upgrade this year.
Lost starting TE Tremble. Bring back the better TE Mayer. Upgrade.
Lost 4 starters on OL. Actually, Lugg & Correll have both been multiple game starters & Patterson & Madden are both preseason All Americans. How many teams actually return 4 guys with multiple starts & 2 All Americans?
Both RBs back. QB coming in was 10 game winner who started a CCG & Rose Bowl.
DL is an upgrade this year with a top 5 in the nation 2-deep. LB lost JOK, but returns next 5-6 in two deep. Secondary lost two of top 6 in two deep & returns best Safety in country in Hamilton.
ND returns all of the punter, kicker, punt returner & kick returner.
ND brought in one of the best DCs in the country.

 

[IrishBoognish]

Don't mean to pile on, but it really doesn't seem you know much at all about ND football.

Jack Coan is a "poor man's Ian Book"?

ND loses all their talent at Wide Out? wha?

What does this mean? And that was in the first 2 minutes.

 

[rocboysfootball]

Thanks for checking it out. We obviously see the team a little different. I am not the biggest fan of Jack Coan, I thought much of his success was contingent on a really strong run game and one of the better o-lines in the country. I do like Mayer who I think is the best TE in the country. I worry about the O-line that needs to replace some really good football players and have my worries about Patterson moving to LT, especially after foot surgery. ND is not even close to a top 5 defensive line unit, its just not there.

 

[IrishBoognish]

Thanks for checking it out. We obviously see the team a little different. I am not the biggest fan of Jack Coan, I thought much of his success was contingent on a really strong run game and one of the better o-lines in the country. I do like Mayer who I think is the best TE in the country. I worry about the O-line that needs to replace some really good football players and have my worries about Patterson moving to LT, especially after foot surgery. ND is not even close to a top 5 defensive line unit, its just not there.

Patterson is at center, my guy.

I sincerely wish you well with your new channel, but it may be worth doing a touch more research than buying the College Football Annual at the Albertsons before making your videos.

 

[Dale]

Thanks for checking it out. We obviously see the team a little different. I am not the biggest fan of Jack Coan, I thought much of his success was contingent on a really strong run game and one of the better o-lines in the country. I do like Mayer who I think is the best TE in the country. I worry about the O-line that needs to replace some really good football players and have my worries about Patterson moving to LT, especially after foot surgery. ND is not even close to a top 5 defensive line unit, its just not there.

I won’t pile on too much since I can see how this is headed but I think you’ll find here there are many many readers at IE. The ones who post though is rather small in the end and probably want to have facts straight because pretty knowledgeable haha. Patterson is staying at C not LT for example. I didn’t watch past the first few minutes but starters returning can be tricky but for example you said 3 & 6 guys with “starting experience” which is just not true. Coan, Williams, Mayer, Patterson, Correll, Lugg, Madden, MTA, Hinish, Liafiu and/or Simon, White, Lewis, Bracy, Hamilton. All have started games. I actually skipped a few I was unsure if were listed a starter at that. Any questions i or I’m sure others would be glad to clarify what the roster truly looks like going into the year

 

[rocboysfootball]

Yeah thats on me. I have read all summer that he will move to LT, now reading he will stay at Center. Thanks for the update. I understand they have a lot of guys with starting experience but replacing guys like Banks and Eichenberg will be hard. I will try to have those facts right in the future tho.

 

[BobbyMac]

Some stuff off of Youtube

All Sports Central


Big Ten Football at the Voice of CFB


Uncle Lou


Scott Fisher


The Two Irish Brothers


Irish Breakdown

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Thanks for sharing, Bobby:

• All Sports Central was pretty shallow, but nothing real objectionable there.
• F*ck Uncle Lou. If I want to listen to a poorly informed SEC fanboi taking gratuitous shots at ND, I'll just tune into ESPN.
• Fisher's preview was by far the best. That guy did his research.
• Sean's was, as usual, long on enthusiasm and short on analysis.
• And I refuse to give Drian Briscoll clicks.

 

[greyhammer90]

Best "amateur" guys on Youtube for my money.

One thing they bring up that I rarely see outside our own fanbase is how our schedule in years like this one really hurts us. The schedule is lots of teams that can beat you, but no teams that you get credit for beating. "The same people who said Cincinnati should have been in the playoffs last year... if Notre Dame beats Cincinnati by 4 points this year, won't give Notre Dame credit for it. And that's why teams don't schedule Cincinnati."

 

[Irish#1]

ESPN's Top 100

7. Hamilton
47. Williams
48. Mayer

 

[tussin]

I've found that the national previews of ND are very off base. Was just listening to one on The Athletic that said that ND's front 7 will be the weakest part of the team.

 

[Trait Expectations]

Thanks for checking it out. We obviously see the team a little different. I am not the biggest fan of Jack Coan, I thought much of his success was contingent on a really strong run game and one of the better o-lines in the country. I do like Mayer who I think is the best TE in the country. I worry about the O-line that needs to replace some really good football players and have my worries about Patterson moving to LT, especially after foot surgery. ND is not even close to a top 5 defensive line unit, its just not there.

I think it's a good idea to do a little more research about the team you are previewing. The fanbase shouldn't know more than re: where certain players are slotted in.

Since you are certain ND's DL is "not even close to a top 5", please enlighten us. Who are the top 5 or 10 DLs for this upcoming season?

 

[Trait Expectations]

Best "amateur" guys on Youtube for my money.

One thing they bring up that I rarely see outside our own fanbase is how our schedule in years like this one really hurts us. The schedule is lots of teams that can beat you, but no teams that you get credit for beating. "The same people who said Cincinnati should have been in the playoffs last year... if Notre Dame beats Cincinnati by 4 points this year, won't give Notre Dame credit for it. And that's why teams don't schedule Cincinnati."

These guys are really good and really fair. I don't have to 100% agree with them on every point but they are reasonable in their assessments.

 

[Reaper97]

These guys are really good and really fair. I don't have to 100% agree with them on every point but they are reasonable in their assessments.

I used to talk to them when they were on BGI Rivals as SEC nerds before expanding their brand. The only problem is they are still very biased towards the SEC & Georgia. They both rank Kirby Smart as one of the best coaches in the country. He is one of the most underachieving coaches & worst game day coaches in the country.

 

[Trait Expectations]

I used to talk to them when they were on BGI Rivals as SEC nerds before expanding their brand. The only problem is they are still very biased towards the SEC & Georgia. They both rank Kirby Smart as one of the best coaches in the country. He is one of the most underachieving coaches & worst game day coaches in the country.

No doubt. I don't agree with everything they say. Some of their discussion is patronizing towards ND. Feels like a dog being patted on the head, "Good boy, you got the bone!". They seem to believe ND is incapable of matching talent with the elites. I think we are getting closer, especially recently. We need to hit at a few positions at the same time, that's what great teams do. We need strong line play and we need a few offensive weapons to click simultaneously.

But they are fair in their assessment of ND for the most part.

And anyone who slobbers on Georgia's stick isn't impartial, at least if you are going to fairly judge them based on accrual of talent. ND has signed, on average, the 13th best class over the past 4 years and we've been in the playoffs twice and went 11-2 the other year. Georgia has averaged the number 1 class over the last 4 years. Let that sink in for a bit. On average, according to 247, they've had the best recruiting classes over the past 4 years.

How many playoff appearances? How many SEC titles? They are primed for a big season this year but we say that every year.

 

[Reaper97]

No doubt. I don't agree with everything they say. Some of their discussion is patronizing towards ND. Feels like a dog being patted on the head, "Good boy, you got the bone!". They seem to believe ND is incapable of matching talent with the elites. I think we are getting closer, especially recently. We need to hit at a few positions at the same time, that's what great teams do. We need strong line play and we need a few offensive weapons to click simultaneously.

But they are fair in their assessment of ND for the most part.

And anyone who slobbers on Georgia's stick isn't impartial, at least if you are going to fairly judge them based on accrual of talent. ND has signed, on average, the 13th best class over the past 4 years and we've been in the playoffs twice and went 11-2 the other year. Georgia has averaged the number 1 class over the last 4 years. Let that sink in for a bit. On average, according to 247, they've had the best recruiting classes over the past 4 years.

How many playoff appearances? How many SEC titles? They are primed for a big season this year but we say that every year.

So the College Football Nerds just did a show on their week 1 Top 10. There are two dudes. Neither has ND in the top 10…but they actually have Penn State, Oregon, ISU, UNC, UF, A&M & Indiana.
So they think Indiana & PSU are both better than ND.

 

[Reaper97]

Do not watch the Excited Sports ND/FSU preview…hands down the worst preview ever. Dude has absolutely no clue what he is doing. He just reads stats off the computer and literally says multiple times, “Notre Dame has no stars on Defense. None on offense either, but no stars on defense.” I guess an All American & future top 10 draft pick at Safety & an All American and Heisman candidate at RB aren’t stars?

 

[GUknights75]

Thanks for sharing, Bobby:

• All Sports Central was pretty shallow, but nothing real objectionable there.
• F*ck Uncle Lou. If I want to listen to a poorly informed SEC fanboi taking gratuitous shots at ND, I'll just tune into ESPN.
• Fisher's preview was by far the best. That guy did his research.
• Sean's was, as usual, long on enthusiasm and short on analysis.
• And I refuse to give Drian Briscoll clicks.

That's your loss then, his is the best analysis of this team that I have seen. You can have your personal opinion about him, but the man knows football. He has been the most informative member of the media when it comes to actual football talk.

 

[Reaper97]

That's your loss then, his is the best analysis of this team that I have seen. You can have your personal opinion about him, but the man knows football. He has been the most informative member of the media when it comes to actual football talk.

It’s a hard one to balance. I agree he does the best job actually analyzing football. But he also can never admit he might be wrong. He legitimately believes he could be a better OC than Rees. And he can never let a dying dog lie, like how EVERY podcast he takes shots at Quinn. He needs to just break the film down without throwing is his arrogant or condescending comments. He failed at coaching (at a much lower level) because of his stubbornness, arrogance & lack of humility. His bosses couldn’t stand him because he always thought he was the smartest dude in every room.
It’s annoying listening to his podcasts sometimes because he has like a small cult on his show who kiss his rear & bash Quinn, or Kelly, or whatever he says. I just fast forward through it when he goes on a rant.
He’s actually a real cool dude in life & a super nice guy. But he just can’t help himself sometimes when he gets going.

 

[BobbyMac]

That's your loss then, his is the best analysis of this team that I have seen. You can have your personal opinion about him, but the man knows football. He has been the most informative member of the media when it comes to actual football talk.

I'll put Jamie@ISD in his tier.

I'm not a BD hater. What I've seen of his youtube stuff (not much) has been good but too long.

But I've also never seen him bad mouth Quinn or Tommy and I've not heard his take on recruiting besides guys who are already committed.

 

[Trait Expectations]

That's your loss then, his is the best analysis of this team that I have seen. You can have your personal opinion about him, but the man knows football. He has been the most informative member of the media when it comes to actual football talk.

There is no loss. He can talky da football but his podcasts are 3-4x longer than they need to be. He overrides his talking partner on nearly every point or points out something specific in the verbiage and makes some minor addendum and acts like that is the difference. He doesn't even go to practice because he won't get vaccinated then gives reports with Vince kind of like he was there. How is he going to be at the games in the press box? Is he going to purchase a regular ticket and slip in under anonymity? As just another round-ish guy who likes cheez-its?

What has he informed you of that the others haven't?

Oh and my least favorite thing was the subtle shots he was taking at the other reporting services. There's a reason nobody wanted to work with him: he's a blowhard. (and yes, he knows a tiny bit about football). I think deep down, he honestly believes he knows more about Oline coaching the Quinn.

I've listened to more of his podcasts than I should've on the road.

 

[Reaper97]

I'll put Jamie@ISD in his tier.

I'm not a BD hater. What I've seen of his youtube stuff (not much) has been good but too long.

But I've also never seen him bad mouth Quinn or Tommy and I've not heard his take on recruiting besides guys who are already committed.

Going way back to the end of the 2017 season he said on BGI if ND hired Quinn as the OL coach that ND would fall back to mediocrity. Then when BK did hire Quinn, Driskell went on endless rants about how terrible Quinn would be. When ND made the CFP, he said it was because of Heistand & wait to see what happens moving forward. When ND made the CFP again, he said it was because of Chris Watt. Now he says Fisher is starting only because Quinn couldn’t develop anyone else & Fisher hasn’t been ruined by him yet.
With Rees, he has calmed down a bit. But he said the same thing when Rees was being interviewed, that Rees was not good enough. He would critique all of Rees’ playcalls after the game & talk about would Rees “should be calling.” He honestly thinks he could do better than Rees. He actually makes comments like, “I think they will finally do on offense what I’ve been saying for years they have to do,” as if the ND staff is clueless & he has all the answers.

 

[Reaper97]

There is no loss. He can talky da football but his podcasts are 3-4x longer than they need to be. He overrides his talking partner on nearly every point or points out something specific in the verbiage and makes some minor addendum and acts like that is the difference. He doesn't even go to practice because he won't get vaccinated then gives reports with Vince kind of like he was there. How is he going to be at the games in the press box? Is he going to purchase a regular ticket and slip in under anonymity? As just another round-ish guy who likes cheez-its?

What has he informed you of that the others haven't?

Oh and my least favorite thing was the subtle shots he was taking at the other reporting services. There's a reason nobody wanted to work with him: he's a blowhard. (and yes, he knows a tiny bit about football). I think deep down, he honestly believes he knows more about Oline coaching the Quinn.

I've listened to more of his podcasts than I should've on the road.

His cohost Vince is worthless. He is a yes man. They live across the street from each other & are friends. Vince was a failed freshman football coach. Go read the news story about him being investigated by the school board for abusing players.
And he is not allowed at the press box, that’s why Vince is doing it, unless he gets his vaccination. He says he is attending the games with a ticket this year.
And there is no doubt he thinks he knows more than Quinn.
His biggest problem is he chooses his guys, and if they aren’t hired or if they leave, he hates the different guy. He LOVES Harry Heistand. So he automatically doesn’t like Quinn. But he acts like Heistand was fired? He left on his own accord then retired, & doesn’t want to coach anymore, but Driskell acts like Heistand could be back at ND if BK would just go hire him. So that makes Quinn the enemy.