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Virginia GOP candidates team appears to have attempted to run a 3rd party candiate to spoil election for favored dem candidate. 4th person charged with election fruad.

Rob Catron, who worked as a campaign consultant for Taylor (R), was indicted June 21 on 10 counts of making a false statement and election fraud, a felony, according to court records. WAVY News 10 first reported the indictment.

The allegations appear tied to a 2018 petition fraud scandal in which Taylor’s campaign sought to get a third-party spoiler candidate on the ballot, purportedly to siphon votes away from Taylor’s Democratic challenger, now-Rep. Elaine Luria.

But a judge ordered the candidate, Shaun Brown, off the ballot after finding many of the signatures gathered by Taylor’s campaign were forged. An investigation by the Virginian-Pilot found that some of the people whose signatures appeared on the petition were dead, while others did not recall signing anything or did not give permission for their name to be used.

The scandal dogged both Taylor’s 2018 campaign and his 2020 rematch against Luria, who repeatedly bashed Taylor over the scandal as he insisted he did not know about the forged signatures.

Three former staffers pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor election fraud charge as part of a plea deal, admitting to signing off as witnesses on the election petition that included the forged signatures. Their attorneys have said their clients did not know signatures were forged.

It’s unclear what role prosecutors plan to allege that Catron played or what new evidence, if any, has emerged in the three-year-old case. The Virginian-Pilot’s investigation did not find Catron among the staffers who signed off on petitions containing fraudulent signatures. The special prosecutor did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Catron — who has worked on campaigns for Taylor dating back to Taylor’s days in the Virginia House of Delegates — declined to comment when reached Monday, as he was driving to turn himself in to authorities in Virginia Beach.

His attorney could not be immediately reached for comment.

In a statement to The Washington Post, Taylor’s attorney, Diane Toscano, said Taylor “acted swiftly to oust who he thought were the rogue employees who may have violated the people’s trust” and called on law enforcement to hold them accountable as well.

Taylor clarified that Catron was among those he fired in 2018 but did not elaborate further
 
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Scott Taylor aide charged with siganture fraud
A special prosecutor filed two charges of election fraud against a campaign staffer for former Republican congressman Scott Taylor of Virginia but did not say if Taylor broke any laws in a fraudulent ballot-signature scheme.

Donald S. Caldwell, the special prosecutor assigned to the case, confirmed that Lauren Creekmore Peabody was charged Monday with two counts of election fraud for allegedly signing petitions that included forged names.
Last fall, a Richmond judge found that several staffers from Taylor’s reelection campaign had submitted false signatures on petitions to help a rival, Shaun Brown, get on the ballot to run against him.

Judge orders independent candidate off the ballot in Va. congressional race, citing “out and out fraud”

Democrats said Taylor was trying to split the opposing vote so he could win a second term representing the Virginia Beach-area congressional district.

The scandal represented a turning point in the race, helping propel the Democratic nominee, Elaine Luria, to victory in November in a swing district that had been carried by President Trump in 2016.

Citing the Fifth Amendment, Taylor’s staffers declined to testify in the case against Brown. But the Virginia Beach commonwealth’s attorney asked the court to appoint his counterpart in Roanoke, Caldwell, as special prosecutor to see if there were criminal violations.

“Is there probable cause to believe that violations of Virginia law were committed by one or more persons in the submission of election petitions for Shaun Brown?” Caldwell wrote in a statement issued Monday afternoon. “Based upon the facts that have been developed at this point in time, the answer to this question is clearly yes.”

Caldwell wrote that he found “no collusion” between Taylor and Brown to have her run as an independent in the race. He did find that Taylor met with staffers in his congressional office last June and made the decision to help Brown “by using available campaign resources to circulate petitions on her behalf.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...c0db9c-7042-11e9-9f06-5fc2ee80027a_story.html
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https://tylerpaper.com/news/texas/a...cle_ab2afc6e-9531-5540-a0a1-14c775c38e93.html

Attorney General Ken Paxton announced there are more than 500 election fraud cases pending in Texas courts.

“We will prosecute voter fraud every time we find it,” Paxton said over the weekend. “Currently, our office has over 500 cases waiting to be heard in court.”

“Voter fraud is real,” he said, and “Texans deserve to know their vote is legally and securely counted.”

His announcement was made after the latest individual was arrested on a voter fraud charge on June 23. Monica Mendez was arrested and booked into the Victoria County Jail after a Victoria County grand jury returned an indictment against her on multiple counts of election fraud. The Texas Secretary of State referred the case to Paxton’s office after allegations of illegal voting and other election code violations arose out of the 2018 Bloomington Water District election.
 

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I hope every case is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. This case is specific to the 2018 Bloomington Water board election.

Here is a good article on the intricacies
The May 5 election came after years of conflict between longtime Bloomington residents and ALMS, a nonprofit that constructed dozens of apartments in the rural town during the past decade.

Some Bloomington residents say ALMS, which is associated with a tangled web of nonprofits and anonymously owned companies, exploited vulnerable tenants and failed to provide charitable services – such as free housing and emergency shelters – that it claimed to on tax documents. Between 2007 and 2016, the nonprofit stated it earned about $9.6 million and spent more than $6 million providing free housing.

In recent years, ALMS fought to take control of Bloomington’s water board, which decides what the nonprofit pays for utilities at its rental properties. That conflict eventually spurred the Texas Rangers to investigate the district’s 2016 election after some people accused ALMS of trying to unfairly win votes. Although charges involving voter fraud didn’t materialize, the investigation led to the conviction of a former water board member associated with ALMS who was accused of lying about being a felon on his election application.

In the May 2018 election, at least two of the candidates who ran for the water board did business with ALMS, according to court and property records. Once they took office in May, board members voted to slash the amount ALMS pays for sewer and water – despite the district operating with a $108,000 loss between July 2017 and April 2018, according to district meeting minutes and financial documents.
Looking at recent voting demographics this county votes overwhelmingly GOP ( >70%) for all positions available
 
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Same ol' story year after year. I remember when I was a kid and Chicago Mayor Daley would get elected over and over even though a lot of those who voted for him had permanent residences in the local cemeteries. lol
 

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Pretty funny to see that New York City has basically poured jet fuel on the concept of safe and secure elections lol. 135K ballots.....my God.
 

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Early May 2022 should be interesting. 2000 plus "mules" in the 5 swing states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona are recorded by cell phone tracking to visit multiple drop boxes each (one mule making 53 trips to 20 different ballot boxes).

Video surveillance captures many of them as well, including cell phone tracking showing them traveling to Stacy Abrams headquarters and then back to drop boxes.

"True the Vote", a non-profit election integrity organization, spent over $2 million dollars to purchase the cell phone tracking data on a hypothesis. They have taken the last 15 months processing the data. They believe they now have solid evidence of significant election fraud in the key swing states.

The documentary, "2000 mules", will be aired May 2-5
 

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Early May 2022 should be interesting. 2000 plus "mules" in the 5 swing states of Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and Arizona are recorded by cell phone tracking to visit multiple drop boxes each (one mule making 53 trips to 20 different ballot boxes).

Video surveillance captures many of them as well, including cell phone tracking showing them traveling to Stacy Abrams headquarters and then back to drop boxes.

"True the Vote", a non-profit election integrity organization, spent over $2 million dollars to purchase the cell phone tracking data on a hypothesis. They have taken the last 15 months processing the data. They believe they now have solid evidence of significant election fraud in the key swing states.

The documentary, "2000 mules", will be aired May 2-5

Color me surprised.
 

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Color me surprised.
Here is the video version of the podcast which includes some of the "mules" dropping ballots. A safe estimate by True the Vote is 4.8 MILLION ballots were trafficked by JUST through DROP BOXES. This does not include any other election/voter fraud.

So . . . Whoever on Irish Envy parroted "there wasn't any voter fraud" or "there wasn't significant fraud to overturn the election", who mocked and belittled anyone who knew this whole thing stunk from the start. What's the dismissal now? Has the new talking point gone out yet to "deny, deny, deny"?

 
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Here is the video version of the podcast which includes some of the "mules" dropping ballots. A safe estimate by True the Vote is 4.8 MILLION ballots were trafficked by JUST through DROP BOXES in the 5 key states. This does not include any other election/voter fraud.

So . . . Whoever on Irish Envy parroted "there wasn't any voter fraud" or "there wasn't significant fraud to overturn the election", who mocked and belittled anyone who knew this whole thing stunk from the start. What's the dismissal now? Has the new talking point gone out yet to "deny, deny, deny"?


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Looking forward to the movie and the full data release………seems like just the tip of the iceberg
 

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Bobby, you were the poster who got banned for posting known disinfo, right? Specifically about this topic, no?
 

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Bobby, you were the poster who got banned for posting known disinfo, right? Specifically about this topic, no?
I don't honestly know the history on this topic and Bobby, but is that what we do here? Do we ban for posting possible disinformation? Because there have been a number of "conspiracy theories" that have been proven true in the last year. There's the Russian bounty story that turned out to be the hoax, the park being cleared for a Trump photo-op was also a hoax, the Hunter Biden laptop, as well as a number of other stories that the media tried to either squash or push as truth. There have been people that were banned on Twitter for disinformation for saying the COVID vaccines don't provide complete immunity or prevent the spread of infection, before we knew that was the truth. I don't know how valid this ballot box story is, but threats of bans seem silly when "fact checkers" have been getting proven wrong. Calling stories disinformation before they're fully vetted over time seems rather premature.
 

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I don't honestly know the history on this topic and Bobby, but is that what we do here? Do we ban for posting possible disinformation? Because there have been a number of "conspiracy theories" that have been proven true in the last year. There's the Russian bounty story that turned out to be the hoax, the park being cleared for a Trump photo-op was also a hoax, among a number of others. There have been people that were banned on Twitter for disinformation for saying the COVID vaccines don't provide immunity or prevent the spread of infection, before we knew that was the truth. I don't know how valid this ballot box story is, but threats of bans seem silly when "fact checkers" have been getting proven wrong and calling stories disinformation before they're fully vetted over time seems rather premature.
It's what happened, I'm not calling for a ban, at all. A mod can confirm this. You can take it up with them.

Bobby trumpeted this claim saying that he will be vindicated because it will all come out and the lawyers will prevail. Well, we know that went worse than UMass football.
 

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It's what happened, I'm not calling for a ban, at all. A mod can confirm this. You can take it up with them.

Bobby trumpeted this claim saying that he will be vindicated because it will all come out and the lawyers will prevail. Well, we know that went worse than UMass football.
TorontoGold, you are totally calling for a ban. Have the courage to say so. The ban was bogas to begin with. It was far too early to be shutting down any views on what might have happened. And it wasn't "disinformation", a commie term to legitimize censorship. It was a hypothesis based upon the information we had at the time, very early into the election results.

Are you refuting the factual information True the Vote is sharing? Wouldn't this be "disinformation" on your part?

By the way, this will be my only reply to your comment and your desire to argue ad nauseam. I've got a life to live.
 

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Bobby trumpeted this claim saying that he will be vindicated because it will all come out and the lawyers will prevail. Well, we know that went worse than UMass football.

Yeah, well there's a lot of that in the Politics board. We've heard people claim a number of times here that <insert any Trump screw up> would be Trump's downfall and his days were numbered, but to date none of those events ended up really hurting him with a lot of it being nothing burgers. It turned out to be a lot of, forgive the phrase, trumped up BS.
 

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TorontoGold, you are totally calling for a ban. Have the courage to say so. The ban was bogas to begin with. It was far too early to be shutting down any views on what might have happened. And it wasn't "disinformation", a commie term to legitimize censorship. It was a hypothesis based upon the information we had at the time, very early into the election results.

Are you refuting the factual information True the Vote is sharing? Wouldn't this be "disinformation" on your part?

By the way, this will be my only reply to your comment and your desire to argue ad nauseam. I've got a life to live.
Quote where I specifically said "ban him" or anything to that effect. I'm fully open to any mod going through any post I've possibly reported and we can see if I ever called for you to be banned. I don't think you should be banned, as you provide a safe haven for those that don't want to fully lean into insane conspiracies. No matter how ridiculous they are, you're at the cutting edge and willing to continue going at them. Kudos.

I can remember two posts where I brought up an issue with, 1) Was Razor/Koon and his inane posts, I said "this is why I shit post when he posts this garbage" in post I "reported" 2) Was when NoDak said China should be glowing and that its not a good look for an ND board to have this kind of stuff on there. NoDak admitted he was wrong and everyone moved on. So, if you would like to see if I ever spent any additional thought on your existence other than laughing when you did get banned or mentioning to another poster you got banned for disinfo, go nuts have at it.

Charlie Kirk having a grievance podcast is hardly anything remotely close to "factual information". I fully support you financially contributing to this cause, I hope Charlie is able to get as much money to support this effort. Make this mainstream, let everyone see the results. Put in front of the courts and we can see how this goes.

Yeah, well there's a lot of that in the Politics board. We've heard people claim a number of times here that <insert any Trump screw up> would be Trump's downfall and his days were numbered, but to date none of those events ended up really hurting him with a lot of it being nothing burgers. It turned out to be a lot of, forgive the phrase, trumped up BS.
That's fair, and you should challenge anything you disagree with. Otherwise it's just a circle jerk of whatever the groupthink is.
 

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I'm about as conservative as it gets but as soon as someone shares a link to Charlie Kirk I immediately check out.
Oh brother. The post isn't about Charlie Kirk. It's about True the Vote's 18 month process of working through millions of hours of video and cell phone data to show over 2000 "mules" traveling from dropbox to dropbox, inserting multiple ballots in each dropbox.

Charlie Kirk is simply interviewing the two main leaders of True the Vote, a non-profit election integrity organization that has been around since 2009.

If you're virtue signaling to people on the political left about how reasonable you are by "checking out when you see Charlie Kirk", don't waste your time.
 
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I love a good conspiracy theory.
With that in mind, take a look into all things Marxism. Such as the modern forms which are cloaked in things other than economics, like Race (CRT), Sex (Feminism), Gender/Sexuality (LGBTQ+), Health (Fat Studies, Ableism), etc.

Marxism, and a modern expression known as "Woke", is perhaps THE GREAT conspiracy theory. It goes something like this:

There are a certain groups of people who hold particular kinds of "property." Maybe that property is whiteness, or maleness, or heterosexuality, or being Able-Bodied, or Skinny/Healthy. These people oppress the those who do not hold these unique kinds of property, and make their unique forms of property the norm, in order to stay in power.

Therefore, the non-property owner must be "awakened" to their oppressed condition. They don't know they are oppressed. Once they are shown their oppression, they become "Woke" and now operate with two levels of consciousness/awareness. The awareness that all people have, and a second higher level of awareness/consciousness.

These "Woke" oppressed people, or oppressors, now "see" the world in a way that the rest of the ignorant unawakened do not. And they begin to move to open the eyes of others and aim to tear down the systems/structures that have been erected by those with the dominate property which keeps them in power. Once they can overthrow those in power and remove their systems/structures, Utopia is soon to follow.


Any of this sounds familiar? Does this sound like normal thinking to you?

Personally it sounds like a gnostic cult to me. A people who are driven by a GREAT CONSPIRACY THEORY.
If a person is interested in conspiracy theories Marxism, and its modern Woke out-workings, is THE place to look.

A great place to begin is with James Lindsay and his platform, New Discourses. Here is a helpful overview podcast:
 
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The thing to keep in mind is that rarely to never are the people who are really pushing BLM, communism, socialism, CRT, Queer up America, or any of the other myriad woke, radical, leftist movements actually true believers of the narrative they're pushing, nor are they interested in actually fixing a problem or improving the lives of those they're trying to sway to their cause or view. They're just using that particular cause as a way to bring people to their side and that their real purpose is ALWAYS to gain power and/or line their pockets. The naive and gullible they draw in are pawns and inherent followers who are easily misled. The more the narrative tells them that they've been trampled on and victimized and that all their shortcomings are someone else's fault, and the more it's all wrapped in newspeak terminology, the more appealing it is to them. Most are simply con men who are using the cause to gain power and wealth.
 

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The thing to keep in mind is that rarely to never are the people who are really pushing BLM, communism, socialism, CRT, Queer up America, or any of the other myriad woke, radical, leftist movements actually true believers of the narrative they're pushing, nor are they interested in actually fixing a problem or improving the lives of those they're trying to sway to their cause or view. They're just using that particular cause as a way to bring people to their side and that their real purpose is ALWAYS to gain power and/or line their pockets. The naive and gullible they draw in are pawns and inherent followers who are easily misled. The more the narrative tells them that they've been trampled on and victimized and that all their shortcomings are someone else's fault, and the more it's all wrapped in newspeak terminology, the more appealing it is to them. Most are simply con men who are using the cause to gain power and wealth.
Agreed for the most part. I do think there are those who are pushing Marxism and its modern variations who have become radicalized by its utopian promises and comfortable shifting of responsibility onto the "other." To put it in Christian language, they are "Seeking the Kingdom of God without the King."

But I do agree that many, possibly most, who are pushing the narrative are those using other "useful idiots" to gain power for themselves.
 
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Agreed for the most part. I do think there are those who are pushing Marxism and its modern variations who have become radicalized by its utopian promises and comfortable shifting of responsibility onto the "other." To put it in Christian language, they are "Seeking the Kingdom of God without the King."

But I do agree that many, possibly most, who are pushing the narrative are those using other "useful idiots" to gain power for themselves.
It's Maundy Thursday, dude. And Christ at the Last Supper delivered the greatest speech ever.

But those words get choked off by "the deceitfulness of riches and the worries of the world."

Jesus, the Christ, had an agenda. It is clear as a bell.
What is yours?
 
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