2016 Season ... A look ahead

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First off... I didn't see the story below posted anywhere and I missed it on SBNation until today. Looks like something Whiskey has hanging on the mirrors above his revolving bed. Great read (SIAP)

Notre Dame made it through a brutal 2015. Now it's time to contend for a Playoff spot. - SBNation.com

In regards to the season's record, I'm ready to go 12-0 against what's shaking out to be a near perfect schedule. But I'll sandbag and go 11-1 with a loss at SC since it's here in SoCal. I'm going and the last 6 ND-SC games I've gone to going back to before the turn of the century have been losses. Or I could watch on TV and they go 12-0.

ND makes the playoffs over 2 loss UCLA and 2 loss MSU. The other 3 teams in the playoffs are Bama, the winners of Clemson/FSU and OU/TCU.
 

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First off... I didn't see the story below posted anywhere and I missed it on SBNation until today. Looks like something Whiskey has hanging on the mirrors above his revolving bed. Great read (SIAP)

Notre Dame made it through a brutal 2015. Now it's time to contend for a Playoff spot. - SBNation.com

In regards to the season's record, I'm ready to go 12-0 against what's shaking out to be a near perfect schedule. But I'll sandbag and go 11-1 with a loss at SC since it's here in SoCal. I'm going and the last 6 ND-SC games I've gone to going back to before the turn of the century have been losses. Or I could watch on TV and they go 12-0.

ND makes the playoffs over 2 loss UCLA and 2 loss MSU. The other 3 teams in the playoffs are Bama, the winners of Clemson/FSU and OU/TCU.

Stay home for USC, damn you!
 

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Interesting that they have Texas as our second worst win probability.
 

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High hopes for this season...at least now we know we have known commodities behind QB1 and RB1.
 

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I think the offense should be good, but perhaps not as explosive as last year's. The O-line probably won't be quite as good, but that'll happen when you loose 3 starters including a top 10 pick and a 2nd rounder. The QB situation should be better with experience, and the RB situation should be fine.

What worries me is the impact that Will Fuller's departure will have. Last year's offense was so deadly because you had to make the choice between stopping the run or double covering Fuller, and neither was a good answer. We have WR talent for sure, but the impact of Fuller on the 2015 offense was more than even his prolific production.

The defense really scares me however. We lost our top two defenders last year in Jaylon and Day, our top pass rusher, and our safety depth is even scarier. A lot of young guys need to step up or it could be a disaster (again).
 

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I think the offense should be good, but perhaps not as explosive as last year's. The O-line probably won't be quite as good, but that'll happen when you loose 3 starters including a top 10 pick and a 2nd rounder. The QB situation should be better with experience, and the RB situation should be fine.

What worries me is the impact that Will Fuller's departure will have. Last year's offense was so deadly because you had to make the choice between stopping the run or double covering Fuller, and neither was a good answer. We have WR talent for sure, but the impact of Fuller on the 2015 offense was more than even his prolific production.

The defense really scares me however. We lost our top two defenders last year in Jaylon and Day, our top pass rusher, and our safety depth is even scarier. A lot of young guys need to step up or it could be a disaster (again).

The only thing that worries me about this team(defense in particular) is if the injury bug returns for a third straight year.
 

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I think the offense should be good, but perhaps not as explosive as last year's. The O-line probably won't be quite as good, but that'll happen when you loose 3 starters including a top 10 pick and a 2nd rounder. The QB situation should be better with experience, and the RB situation should be fine.

What worries me is the impact that Will Fuller's departure will have. Last year's offense was so deadly because you had to make the choice between stopping the run or double covering Fuller, and neither was a good answer. We have WR talent for sure, but the impact of Fuller on the 2015 offense was more than even his prolific production.

The defense really scares me however. We lost our top two defenders last year in Jaylon and Day, our top pass rusher, and our safety depth is even scarier. A lot of young guys need to step up or it could be a disaster (again).

I have zero worries on offense, that will be electric.

I don't know how you see our safety depth as scarier than last year. We have way more depth along with plenty of experience.
 

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The only thing that worries me about this team(defense in particular) is if the injury bug returns for a third straight year.

I'm fairly confident that the D will improve this year. We added a lot of DBs, and a couple of them are going to show up (I'm looking at you Studstill and Pride). In addition, we get Crawford back from injury. That is an infusion of young talent to go along with Luke and Watkins. Barring injury, we know that Tranquill can play at SS and it's now or never for Redfield. But again, we gained a lot of depth so he will be looking over his shoulder all year and will either make strides on the field or toward the sidelines.

At LB, we have addition by subtraction of Schmidt. Whomever he is replaced by will be a step up IMO. No one can replace Jaylon, but a couple guys can combine to get us the type of skills he took with him to Dallas. There is a lot of young talent at the second level, and I think Morgan is going to blow up this year.

We don't have a proven pass rusher on the team right now, but again, there is some young talent who could give us a push there (I'm hoping Hayes shows us something on the edge). Trumbetti will improve and maybe give us some pressure, too. Rochell and Jones are solid vets who will anchor the DL. Tillery will likely be solid this year, and could be the type of talent the coaches hinted at early on in his career.

We'll be young, but as athletic as we've been across the board in a long time. There is a good mix of vets and newcomers and a lot of position battles that will make everyone better. I'm not worried about our defense this year. I think they get better as the year goes on.
 
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I have zero worries on offense, that will be electric.

Agreed. If they find someone that is even just serviceable as a deep threat, the offense will be fine. I would mention the OL needing to gel, but I'm not worried about the big uglies in the least. #InHarryWeTrust

I don't know how you see our safety depth as scarier than last year. We have way more depth along with plenty of experience.

We lose some stars and key pieces on defense, but the best thing for the defense is added numbers. Better depth, along with better injury luck, combined with increased turnover production, and the defense should be good enough to support a damn fine offense.

Besides, there's nowhere to go but up, right?

(*Knocks on wood furiously*)
 

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9-3, maybe worse. Offense possible takes a step back due to new faces on the OL and losing playmakers like Fuller and Prosise. Also, QB competitions always scare me. Defense looks horrendous on paper.

There's a scenario where the offense is so good on account of Kizer's ascendance and the improvement of Adams/Williams that it doesn't matter if the defense struggles... but it's hard for me to see that happening. I agree that the schedule looks juicy.
 

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Keys to a successful defense
- Healthy, motivated Jarron Jones
- The ability to play nickel
- Healthy, motivated Jarron Jones
- Utilizing the athleticism of our linebackers
- Health, motivated Jarron Jones
 

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Keys to a successful defense
- Healthy, motivated Jarron Jones
- The ability to play nickel
- Healthy, motivated Jarron Jones
- Utilizing the athleticism of our linebackers
- Health, motivated Jarron Jones

But what about Jarron Jones?
 

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I have zero worries on offense, that will be electric.

I don't know how you see our safety depth as scarier than last year. We have way more depth along with plenty of experience.

Our #2 free safety is a 3* true freshman. Not only that'll be "assisted" by what's most likely an even inferior pass rush to last year's.
 

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Our #2 free safety is a 3* true freshman. Not only that'll be "assisted" by what's most likely an even inferior pass rush to last year's.

Good news is the front seven will be such a train wreck the safeties won't really matter............
 

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I don't think the offense is going to take a step back. I think it's the opposite, it's going to be better this year.

First, you're going to have an experienced and game-ready QB, unlike last season and 2 experienced RB's on top of that.

The common concerns are the OL and a deep threat. I think the OL is going to be better in some aspects than last year's. Yes, we lose 3 starters from last season, however, I don't really see us getting worse at any one spot. Stanley is an elite tackle, but I'd be surprised if McGlinchey doesn't follow in his footsteps. McGlinchey is a bit of a tradeoff, as he's not as technically proficient, but he's a more dominant run blocker and more powerful. I've said this before, love Martin, thought he was a quality leader, but Mustipher is an upgrade. I say this, because Martin was hurt a vast majority of his time as the starting Center. If Mustipher can stay healthy, we're stronger at Center. As for RG, there's legitimate question marks, but I like the prospects of a honed in Bivin, McGovern or Kraemer over a distracted and not quite as athletically gifted Elmer.

As for receiver, there's prospects across the board that make the receiver corp impossible to go unaccounted for. Lots of talent, lots of different variety.
 

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Our #2 free safety is a 3* true freshman. Not only that'll be "assisted" by what's most likely an even inferior pass rush to last year's.

Studstill jumped to 4-star IIRC. Also, he's so far showing to be better than anything we had behind Redfield and Shumate last year. Not to mention that after Tranquill went down, our #2 SS was Nick Baratti.

I'd be incredibly surprised if our pass rush is worse than last season's. I'm very confident that it'll be substantially better.
 

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Our #2 free safety is a 3* true freshman. Not only that'll be "assisted" by what's most likely an even inferior pass rush to last year's.

Because he's played really well. He's not there because we don't have anyone else. We had barely any safeties left at the end of the year because of injury. Just the fact that we have a stable of able bodies makes it better than last season.
 

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I didn't have high hopes for 2012 which also had its share of question marks but that turned out pretty well and I do think the pieces could fall into place for ND to make a run. The main thing I'm concerned about is generating a pass rush and as mentioned, the injury bug.

I do think ND has better depth overall than in recent years, though. Some of it might be relatively inexperienced/unknown but that doesn't mean players won't emerge. Shoot, who foresaw the year that both Prosise and Adams had after Folston went down? Russell his freshman year right after being flipped to CB? Will Fuller going off in 2014? Deshone Kizer's performance after Zaire went down?

One thing that is generally true, expect the unexpected. I usually try to temper my enthusiasm before the season starts because you never know what will happen between now and September but I try not to be pessimistic either.
 

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This is probably the best schedule we've had in ages for potentially going 12-0. Offense should be good as long as 1-2 WRs can step up. The OL I think should be better with the run blocking this season. Adams/Folston/Williams look pretty sweet as a committee and I'm sure BK will be going with even more designed QB runs now that we have a backup who isn't a true frosh. I assume the WR play will be good. BK's track record with recruiting and developing there is great. TE play can only be better as well.

I don't think the D is going to be great, but we might not need it to be. MSU/Stanford/USC are all breaking in new QBs. Those three games plus Texas are the only games where we have any excuse (barring crazy injuries/turnovers) to lose. We avoided the WTF loss last year finally. IMO on paper this looks like 9-3 at the ABSOLUTE worst.
 

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This is probably the best schedule we've had in ages for potentially going 12-0.

I believe it was our 2015 schedule prior to the ACC move... it was GOLDEN... I was so happy, and then the ACC move happened and yeah....
 
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I think our offence will be great this year. As good or better than last year. Kizer has experience and is proven as well as Zaire is fairly proven and would be a no-brainer starter for a lot of P5 teams. Our O Line has 3 new starters but like many others have stated, they should be very solid. I think McGlinchey isn't much of a drop off from Stanley. Nelson, Mustipher and Bivin/McGovern/???, in the interior should certainly be good. Bars is a stud on the other end from what I've seen. Our WR's should be great. I think Hunter emerges as a clear number one and put up big numbers this year. ESB should emerge as our number two but we have slew of talent other than him and I'm itching to see how Boykin plays as I love a big bodied WR like him. I wonder about the slot a little as there is a bit of a wonder of who will start etc. but there's solid athletes there that should produce, especially with great qb play. Our TE's are really exciting to me and expect Alize to start to truly emerge as the next great ND TE. He just looks so deadly out there and could be fantastic in the red zone with his size/ability. Weigher has looked pretty good as well in the time he's seen the field and Luatua is a great blocker and good to have back. Our RB's (barring the consistent injury bug) should be fantastic. Folston with the smooth, elusive stuff with Adams being the bigger back who has home-run threat....There really isn't much to not like about our offense.
Our defense worries me a little but at the same time I think they could end up being better than last year, even with the loss of some key players. Our D line has a lot of experienced and stout players. Rochell is gonna be the man up front if you ask me. He should be a 2nd round NFL pick (maybe better). Tillery, after another year with Longo and maturity, may turn into a dominant DT. He sure showed flashes last year as a true freshman. Jones is a monster and Cage seems immovable so they should be solid gap pluggers and mountains in the middle. I think a one-two punch of Hayes and Trumbetti on the other side should be decent, but we need one of them, or both of them, to really step it up to make our DL be truly threatening and something teams need to seriously plan around. Otherwise, there's nothing truly "spectacular" if you ask me on our D Line. Just a bunch of 'pretty good' players. At LB, you can't replace Jaylon, of course, but you can replace Schmidt...and thank god for that. Nice guy and great story but its time for some supreme athleticism from our Mack and we'll get that from Nyles and from what I've read he's made huge strides and the staff is super pumped about him. If I were to choose, I'd go Coney WLB and Martini SLB, but I think the coaches will go with what they did last year and keep Onowaulu (spelling Im sorry) in for passing downs/passing teams, and Martini in for run situations/option teams. Regardless, I'd say they'll start Coney at WLB and I think he's awesome. At corners I'd say we'll see Luke and Watkins 100% with Devin Butler in the wings. Crawford should be our guy at nickel and from what i read about him through his recruitment and training camp at ND he should be a huge player for us and I have a gut feeling he's gonna cause some turnovers and pass break-ups. At safety everyone seems to be worried. I'm not. I think Redfield eliminates the majority of the mistakes this year after being in the program a while and having his position seriously questioned with the whole Studstill thing in the spring. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being incredible this year. He is a phenomenal athlete and it has shown. If he eliminates the mental errors, he'll be a force. At SS, Drew is going to be our starter and I see him as a harder hitting but not as fast Harrison Smith. I watched his interview on Watch ND and he seems to have embraced his recovery from back to back knee injuries and has a great head on his shoulders. When I think of him, I think of him destroying the GT offence last year which was a very high octane offense.
Every year a freshman or two tear it up as well. Last year we didn't expect anything from Josh Adams right?? Who knows?? maybe someone kills it this year for us! Let's hope so!
This is my take....how things go in game situations....special teams....injuries....suspensions (i sure hope not)......freak things you can't foresee.....I dunno...but GO IRISH!!!
 

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USC is the only "should probably lose" game if you assume they will get their QB figured out by the last game of the year. And even if they do, it should be a close game.

Irish 12-0.
The O-line gels by game 3, WRs step up, TE is silly good, and the D comes together by Oct15. ND racks up 300 rushing yards against TX, coasts against Nevada, pulls a late one out against MichSt, crushes the next 2, struggles early but pulls away from NC State, gives the Tree a beat down, deals Miami their first loss of the season, cruise the next 3, and escape the Trojans with a last minute FG set up by a 50 yard QB run with less than a minute to go.

More Kool Aid please.
 

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McGlinchey is a bit of a tradeoff, as he's not as technically proficient, but he's a more dominant run blocker and more powerful.

Fair

I've said this before, love Martin, thought he was a quality leader, but Mustipher is an upgrade. I say this, because Martin was hurt a vast majority of his time as the starting Center. If Mustipher can stay healthy, we're stronger at Center.

...has Mustipher played a single meaningful down? How can you say he's an upgrade lol. That said if he is 90% as good as Martin we will be fine up front. Losing Elmer is addition by subtraction.
 

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...has Mustipher played a single meaningful down? How can you say he's an upgrade lol. That said if he is 90% as good as Martin we will be fine up front. Losing Elmer is addition by subtraction.

You get on him about an unknown and then you say that? What if everyone they try at RG stinks? Then it's subtraction by an addition of a negative.
 
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