2015 Spring Practice Thread

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Every year, the Spring camp thread is the same. First, worry and Denial of talent, then minimizing of video, followed by acceptance of the team, then joy related to 2 secs of video footage, then over exaggeration and proclamation of greatness, followed by retaliation and blame, then anger and hatred. Finally, mob mentality ensues. A ban follows shortly thereafter. There has to be a theory somewhere to explain this.
 

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Every year, the Spring camp thread is the same. First, worry and Denial of talent, then minimizing of video, followed by acceptance of the team, then joy related to 2 secs of video footage, then over exaggeration and proclamation of greatness, followed by retaliation and blame, then anger and hatred. Finally, mob mentality ensues. A ban follows shortly thereafter. There has to be a theory somewhere to explain this.

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Every year, the Spring camp thread is the same. First, worry and Denial of talent, then minimizing of video, followed by acceptance of the team, then joy related to 2 secs of video footage, then over exaggeration and proclamation of greatness, followed by retaliation and blame, then anger and hatred. Finally, mob mentality ensues. A ban follows shortly thereafter. There has to be a theory somewhere to explain this.

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Every year, the Spring camp thread is the same. First, worry and Denial of talent, then minimizing of video, followed by acceptance of the team, then joy related to 2 secs of video footage, then over exaggeration and proclamation of greatness, followed by retaliation and blame, then anger and hatred. Finally, mob mentality ensues. A ban follows shortly thereafter. There has to be a theory somewhere to explain this.

Spring video addiction, the five stages of acceptance of your favorite team.

The stages, popularly known by the acronym DABDA, include:
1. Denial — One of the first reactions is Denial, wherein the survivor imagines a false, preferable reality.

2. Anger — When the individual recognizes that denial cannot continue, it becomes frustrated, especially at proximate individuals. Certain psychological responses of a person undergoing this phase would be: "Why me? It's not fair!"; "How can this happen to me?"; '"Who is to blame?"; "Why would God let this happen?".

3. Bargaining — The third stage involves the hope that the individual can avoid a cause of grief. Usually, the negotiation for an extended life is made with a higher power in exchange for a reformed lifestyle. Other times, they will use anything valuable against another human agency to extend or prolong the life. People facing less serious trauma can bargain or seek compromise.

4. Depression — "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"; "I'm going to die soon so what's the point?"; "I miss my loved one, why go on?"
During the fourth stage, the individual becomes saddened by the certainty of death. In this state, the individual may become silent, refuse visitors and spend much of the time mournful and sullen.

5. Acceptance — "It's going to be okay."; "I can't fight it, I may as well prepare for it."
In this last stage, individuals embrace mortality or inevitable future, or that of a loved one, or other tragic event. People dying may precede the survivors in this state, which typically comes with a calm, retrospective view for the individual, and a stable condition of emotions.

Kübler-Ross later expanded her model to include any form of personal loss, such as the death of a loved one, the loss of a job or income, major rejection, the end of a relationship or divorce, drug addiction, incarceration, the onset of a disease or chronic illness, an infertility diagnosis, and even minor losses.
 
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Power Hour was pretty good from yesterday.

-They confirmed that BK's comments on Tillery are justified. Compared it to when BK said Bars was the best OL he'd seen in 25 years (yet he's not starting). Tillery on the other hand, is every bit as good as the coach is saying. Has a high motor. Will push Jaron to be better and more consistent. DT depth is a major strong suit for this year's team.

-Golson is their choice over MZ. Malik just isn't consistent enough with down-field passes. They said MZ is still playing good, but Golson is finally living up to his potential (in practice so far).

-The OL will be fantastic. Bars and Q fighting for a spot. The rest are pretty much set.

-WR/Slot/RB is just an embarrassment of riches. They mentioned how well GB has been practicing and how good Procise is with the ball in his hands (and he's considered 3rd string RB). WRs need to catch the ball. But across the board, they are loaded with talent. Brent needs to get his mind right and he can be a player.

-Not overly impressed with DE (but mentioned Trumbetti and Day aren't practicing). Not impressed with Grant. Didn't see anything earth-shattering from Bonner or JW. Mentioned how the run game gashed them outside often. They're not worried but just wanted to point it out. Some young guys still need more time to develop.

-Jaylon and Nyles are fast but need to be better in pass protection. Said BVG got on them often about dropping into zone (what they're not supposed to do).

-DBs and safeties practicing well. Singled out Watkins. Singled out Coach Lyght. Really impressed by him.

-Recruiting: It's early, but they feel the staff is doing a phenomenal job so far with 2016 and even better with 2017. Looking forward to how things shake out. Sounds like because of the size of the class, they're already slow playing kids who would otherwise be takes.


Feel free to add. I absolutely love this podcast.
 
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Power Hour was pretty good from yesterday.

-They confirmed that BK's comments on Tillery are justified. Compared it to when BK said Bars was the best OL he'd seen in 25 years (yet he's not starting). Tillery on the other hand, is every bit as good as the coach is saying. Has a high motor. Will push Jaron to be better and more consistent. DT depth is a major strong suite for this year's team.

-Golson is their choice over MZ. Malik just isn't consistent enough with down-field passes. They said MZ is still playing good, but Golson is finally living up to his potential (in practice so far).

-The OL will be fantastic. Bars and Q fighting for a spot. The rest are pretty much set.

-WR/Slot/RB is just an embarrassment of riches. They mentioned how well GB has been practicing and how good Procise is with the ball in his hands (and he's considered 3rd string RB). WRs need to catch the ball. But across the board, they are loaded with talent. Brent needs to get his mind right and he can be a player.

-Not overly impressed with DE (but mentioned Trumbetti and Day aren't practicing). Not impressed with Grant. Didn't see anything earth-shattering from Bonner. Mentioned how the run game gashed them outside often. They're not worried but just wanted to point it out. Some young guys still need more time.

-Jaylon and Nyles are fast but need to be better in pass protection. Said BVG got on them often about dropping into zone (what they're not supposed to do).

-DBs and safeties practicing well. Singled out Watkins. Singled out Coach Lyght. Really impressed by him.

-Recruiting: It's early, but they feel the staff is doing a phenomenal job so far with 2016 and even better with 2017. Looking forward to how things shake out. Sounds like because of the size of the class, they're already slow playing kids who would otherwise be takes.


Feel free to add. I absolutely love this podcast.


That is a great summary of the show. For those of you who can't get enough Irish talk, this is a nice treat on Mondays. Mike Frank and Coach D are great, and they provide the best coverage overall in my opinion. I play musical chairs with all 4 of the major pay sites, but I really enjoy the info they provide because they seem to be the most professional. I also like 247 for the opposite reasons though, as they make it a little bit more exciting at times. I don't want to be lied to, but sometimes I need a pick-me-up and Tom or Steve do a great job of keeping me optimistic about recruiting. Sorry, I have rambled long enough lol.
 

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Power Hour was pretty good from yesterday.

-They confirmed that BK's comments on Tillery are justified. Compared it to when BK said Bars was the best OL he'd seen in 25 years (yet he's not starting). Tillery on the other hand, is every bit as good as the coach is saying. Has a high motor. Will push Jaron to be better and more consistent. DT depth is a major strong suite for this year's team.

-Golson is their choice over MZ. Malik just isn't consistent enough with down-field passes. They said MZ is still playing good, but Golson is finally living up to his potential (in practice so far).

-The OL will be fantastic. Bars and Q fighting for a spot. The rest are pretty much set.

-WR/Slot/RB is just an embarrassment of riches. They mentioned how well GB has been practicing and how good Procise is with the ball in his hands (and he's considered 3rd string RB). WRs need to catch the ball. But across the board, they are loaded with talent. Brent needs to get his mind right and he can be a player.



-Not overly impressed with DE (but mentioned Trumbetti and Day aren't practicing). Not impressed with Grant. Didn't see anything earth-shattering from Bonner. Mentioned how the run game gashed them outside often. They're not worried but just wanted to point it out. Some young guys still need more time.

-Jaylon and Nyles are fast but need to be better in pass protection. Said BVG got on them often about dropping into zone (what they're not supposed to do).

-DBs and safeties practicing well. Singled out Watkins. Singled out Coach Lyght. Really impressed by him.

-Recruiting: It's early, but they feel the staff is doing a phenomenal job so far with 2016 and even better with 2017. Looking forward to how things shake out. Sounds like because of the size of the class, they're already slow playing kids who would otherwise be takes.


Feel free to add. I absolutely love this podcast.


Thanks bro. I would love a weekly break down like this 👍
 

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The Evangel Christian (La.) Academy head football coach played defensive tackle for four years at LSU. One of his former players, Chris Bradley, appeared in 13 games as a freshman at TCU last fall. Another pupil, Jermauria Rasco, led LSU in sacks as a senior last season.

Evangel Christian is known as “D-Line High” in Louisiana because of the number of college prospects it produces, Dawson said. And in 11 years of coaching, he thinks one is better than the rest.

That’s Jerry Tillery, a nearly 6-foot-7, 300-pound freshman defensive tackle. The Shreveport (La.) native started running with Notre Dame’s first-team defense six practices in to his first taste of college football.

Tillery’s quick ascent up the depth chart didn’t surprise his high school coach, who presented at Notre Dame’s coaches’ clinic this past Saturday in a session on the subject he knows best: defensive line play.

“What makes Jerry so unique is he has that great technique and fundamentals that he’s learned at Evangel but he also has the size and the strength to go with it,” said Dawson. “Now you put all that together and you’ve got something nasty.”

His Notre Dame teammates picked up on the freshman’s ability and nicknamed him because of it.

“We call him ‘Tank’ because he just does everything right, it seems like,” rising senior defensive tackle Sheldon Day said. “You can definitely tell that he’s mature and he’s definitely ready to come play.”

But Tillery’s uniqueness isn’t limited to his football talent. He’s an avid learner, someone who took an interest in topics most high school students ignore.

Dawson said he would see his defensive tackle reading stock reports in Evangel Christian’s locker room. For one of Tillery’s birthdays, his parents bought him The New York Times’ iPhone app, his coach added. Before then, he borrowed the paper from an assistant coach’s classroom. There was never enough information for the Notre Dame pre-med student to consume.

“Jerry’s a unique kid,” Dawson said. “He’s focusing on his financial planning right now. 401k. He’s always asking questions. Whenever you’re a guy that’s response is always asking questions, you’re going to get answers. And that’s how you’re going to get knowledge.”

Academics played an important role through his college recruiting process. Tillery used one of his official visits to see Dartmouth College last November. He took in an Ivy League football game between Harvard and the Big Green.

Tillery's transition to high school wasn't without growing pains. He left behind friends at Calvary Baptist (La.) Academy when he transferred to Evangel Christian. At first, the coaching staff job was purely trying to make sure Tillery was happy at school.

“That took several months,” Dawson said. “And then his sophomore year, just getting him to buy into our system, because when a guy is coming in from another school, they have bad habits. You’ve got to break those habits.”

Next came his breakout season.

“His junior year, he excelled,” said Dawson. “He started doing some great things on the defensive line. I think he started buying into being a defensive lineman per se. And not just an offensive lineman or a two-way guy.”

Tillery received scholarship offers the next spring from LSU, Mississippi and Stanford. Notre Dame offered in June. Even though he was recruited mostly as an offensive lineman, his coach didn’t have any doubts that Tillery, who played on both sides of the ball through high school, would be most valuable on the defensive line at the next level.

“I think just because of his height and his wingspan, people just automatically turned him into the prototypical offensive lineman,” said Dawson. “But I kept reminding him that 6-7, 300-pound offensive linemen come a dime a dozen. When you’re that size as a defensive lineman, that’s freakish.”

Tillery weighed around 330 pounds that spring – around the same time he began to compete in 5K runs. Then he moved on to 10Ks. By the end of the summer, the defensive lineman had competed in two triathlons. Those summer workouts in Louisiana trimmed Tillery down to around 310 pounds by start of his senior season, and the difference was noticeable on the field.

“That was a big turnaround because he was a guy that was, I wouldn’t say he was lazy,” said Dawson. “But sometimes a big guy like that in hot Louisiana, he was trying to take some short cuts. But the spring before his senior year he really started to attack.

“He went from being big and good and passive to being big and good and aggressive. And I think that took him to another level when he really got caught up in the fitness part.”

This spring, Notre Dame’s coaching staff is seeing the finished product of another Evangel Christian product. Tillery is the first recruit from Louisiana to enroll at Notre Dame under Brian Kelly. Defensive end Bo Wallace will be the second Louisiana native when he joins Tillery in June.

Based on what the coaches have seen from Tillery, there could be some more trips in the future to “D-Line High.”

“He’s just a unique player,” Kelly said of Tillery. “One that I can’t remember that I’ve coached. He has a unique ability at such a young age to use his hands. Where we spend the first year and a half trying to get these kids to not drop their head and be overextended, he immediately can use his hands and use his size to his advantage.

“I’m so leery to talk about a freshman, but he’s a unique talent.”

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Stock reports, triathlons, official visit to Dartmouth and cracking first-team DL as a freshman. Meet Jerry Tillery: <a href="http://t.co/09S04bwdJy">http://t.co/09S04bwdJy</a></p>— Nick Ironside (@nironside247) <a href="https://twitter.com/nironside247/status/582918172354879488">March 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Thanks bro. I would love a weekly break down like this 👍

I'll try, but I'll also recommend taking time to listen to them. The podcasts are great. I have my phone set to automatically download it and I listen on my way to/from work. They are almost always loaded with great info as well as answers to questions from ISD members. Some IE posters have bagged on Mike's tone at times, and rightfully so. But overall, it's worth the hour of your time.
 

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The Evangel Christian (La.) Academy head football coach played defensive tackle for four years at LSU. One of his former players, Chris Bradley, appeared in 13 games as a freshman at TCU last fall. Another pupil, Jermauria Rasco, led LSU in sacks as a senior last season.

Evangel Christian is known as “D-Line High” in Louisiana because of the number of college prospects it produces, Dawson said. And in 11 years of coaching, he thinks one is better than the rest.

That’s Jerry Tillery, a nearly 6-foot-7, 300-pound freshman defensive tackle. The Shreveport (La.) native started running with Notre Dame’s first-team defense six practices in to his first taste of college football.

Tillery’s quick ascent up the depth chart didn’t surprise his high school coach, who presented at Notre Dame’s coaches’ clinic this past Saturday in a session on the subject he knows best: defensive line play.

“What makes Jerry so unique is he has that great technique and fundamentals that he’s learned at Evangel but he also has the size and the strength to go with it,” said Dawson. “Now you put all that together and you’ve got something nasty.”

His Notre Dame teammates picked up on the freshman’s ability and nicknamed him because of it.

“We call him ‘Tank’ because he just does everything right, it seems like,” rising senior defensive tackle Sheldon Day said. “You can definitely tell that he’s mature and he’s definitely ready to come play.”

But Tillery’s uniqueness isn’t limited to his football talent. He’s an avid learner, someone who took an interest in topics most high school students ignore.

Dawson said he would see his defensive tackle reading stock reports in Evangel Christian’s locker room. For one of Tillery’s birthdays, his parents bought him The New York Times’ iPhone app, his coach added. Before then, he borrowed the paper from an assistant coach’s classroom. There was never enough information for the Notre Dame pre-med student to consume.

“Jerry’s a unique kid,” Dawson said. “He’s focusing on his financial planning right now. 401k. He’s always asking questions. Whenever you’re a guy that’s response is always asking questions, you’re going to get answers. And that’s how you’re going to get knowledge.”

Academics played an important role through his college recruiting process. Tillery used one of his official visits to see Dartmouth College last November. He took in an Ivy League football game between Harvard and the Big Green.

Tillery's transition to high school wasn't without growing pains. He left behind friends at Calvary Baptist (La.) Academy when he transferred to Evangel Christian. At first, the coaching staff job was purely trying to make sure Tillery was happy at school.

“That took several months,” Dawson said. “And then his sophomore year, just getting him to buy into our system, because when a guy is coming in from another school, they have bad habits. You’ve got to break those habits.”

Next came his breakout season.

“His junior year, he excelled,” said Dawson. “He started doing some great things on the defensive line. I think he started buying into being a defensive lineman per se. And not just an offensive lineman or a two-way guy.”

Tillery received scholarship offers the next spring from LSU, Mississippi and Stanford. Notre Dame offered in June. Even though he was recruited mostly as an offensive lineman, his coach didn’t have any doubts that Tillery, who played on both sides of the ball through high school, would be most valuable on the defensive line at the next level.

“I think just because of his height and his wingspan, people just automatically turned him into the prototypical offensive lineman,” said Dawson. “But I kept reminding him that 6-7, 300-pound offensive linemen come a dime a dozen. When you’re that size as a defensive lineman, that’s freakish.”

Tillery weighed around 330 pounds that spring – around the same time he began to compete in 5K runs. Then he moved on to 10Ks. By the end of the summer, the defensive lineman had competed in two triathlons. Those summer workouts in Louisiana trimmed Tillery down to around 310 pounds by start of his senior season, and the difference was noticeable on the field.

“That was a big turnaround because he was a guy that was, I wouldn’t say he was lazy,” said Dawson. “But sometimes a big guy like that in hot Louisiana, he was trying to take some short cuts. But the spring before his senior year he really started to attack.

“He went from being big and good and passive to being big and good and aggressive. And I think that took him to another level when he really got caught up in the fitness part.”

This spring, Notre Dame’s coaching staff is seeing the finished product of another Evangel Christian product. Tillery is the first recruit from Louisiana to enroll at Notre Dame under Brian Kelly. Defensive end Bo Wallace will be the second Louisiana native when he joins Tillery in June.

Based on what the coaches have seen from Tillery, there could be some more trips in the future to “D-Line High.”

“He’s just a unique player,” Kelly said of Tillery. “One that I can’t remember that I’ve coached. He has a unique ability at such a young age to use his hands. Where we spend the first year and a half trying to get these kids to not drop their head and be overextended, he immediately can use his hands and use his size to his advantage.

“I’m so leery to talk about a freshman, but he’s a unique talent.”

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Stock reports, triathlons, official visit to Dartmouth and cracking first-team DL as a freshman. Meet Jerry Tillery: <a href="http://t.co/09S04bwdJy">http://t.co/09S04bwdJy</a></p>— Nick Ironside (@nironside247) <a href="https://twitter.com/nironside247/status/582918172354879488">March 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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This is making it incredibly hard to not join in with kool-aid sipping Balki. I wonder if Tillery will really give us this much production. I remember being super excited about Ishaq, Tuitt and Lynch but never heard reports like this. We were hearing about flashes from Lynch but the coaches never glowingly spoke about any of them.

The most impressive thing at this point, would be if Tillery actually met the sky-high expectations being built for him this off-season.
 

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The Evangel Christian (La.) Academy head football coach played defensive tackle for four years at LSU. One of his former players, Chris Bradley, appeared in 13 games as a freshman at TCU last fall. Another pupil, Jermauria Rasco, led LSU in sacks as a senior last season.

Evangel Christian is known as “D-Line High” in Louisiana because of the number of college prospects it produces, Dawson said. And in 11 years of coaching, he thinks one is better than the rest.

That’s Jerry Tillery, a nearly 6-foot-7, 300-pound freshman defensive tackle. The Shreveport (La.) native started running with Notre Dame’s first-team defense six practices in to his first taste of college football.

Tillery’s quick ascent up the depth chart didn’t surprise his high school coach, who presented at Notre Dame’s coaches’ clinic this past Saturday in a session on the subject he knows best: defensive line play.

“What makes Jerry so unique is he has that great technique and fundamentals that he’s learned at Evangel but he also has the size and the strength to go with it,” said Dawson. “Now you put all that together and you’ve got something nasty.”

His Notre Dame teammates picked up on the freshman’s ability and nicknamed him because of it.

“We call him ‘Tank’ because he just does everything right, it seems like,” rising senior defensive tackle Sheldon Day said. “You can definitely tell that he’s mature and he’s definitely ready to come play.”

But Tillery’s uniqueness isn’t limited to his football talent. He’s an avid learner, someone who took an interest in topics most high school students ignore.

Dawson said he would see his defensive tackle reading stock reports in Evangel Christian’s locker room. For one of Tillery’s birthdays, his parents bought him The New York Times’ iPhone app, his coach added. Before then, he borrowed the paper from an assistant coach’s classroom. There was never enough information for the Notre Dame pre-med student to consume.

“Jerry’s a unique kid,” Dawson said. “He’s focusing on his financial planning right now. 401k. He’s always asking questions. Whenever you’re a guy that’s response is always asking questions, you’re going to get answers. And that’s how you’re going to get knowledge.”

Academics played an important role through his college recruiting process. Tillery used one of his official visits to see Dartmouth College last November. He took in an Ivy League football game between Harvard and the Big Green.

Tillery's transition to high school wasn't without growing pains. He left behind friends at Calvary Baptist (La.) Academy when he transferred to Evangel Christian. At first, the coaching staff job was purely trying to make sure Tillery was happy at school.

“That took several months,” Dawson said. “And then his sophomore year, just getting him to buy into our system, because when a guy is coming in from another school, they have bad habits. You’ve got to break those habits.”

Next came his breakout season.

“His junior year, he excelled,” said Dawson. “He started doing some great things on the defensive line. I think he started buying into being a defensive lineman per se. And not just an offensive lineman or a two-way guy.”

Tillery received scholarship offers the next spring from LSU, Mississippi and Stanford. Notre Dame offered in June. Even though he was recruited mostly as an offensive lineman, his coach didn’t have any doubts that Tillery, who played on both sides of the ball through high school, would be most valuable on the defensive line at the next level.

“I think just because of his height and his wingspan, people just automatically turned him into the prototypical offensive lineman,” said Dawson. “But I kept reminding him that 6-7, 300-pound offensive linemen come a dime a dozen. When you’re that size as a defensive lineman, that’s freakish.”

Tillery weighed around 330 pounds that spring – around the same time he began to compete in 5K runs. Then he moved on to 10Ks. By the end of the summer, the defensive lineman had competed in two triathlons. Those summer workouts in Louisiana trimmed Tillery down to around 310 pounds by start of his senior season, and the difference was noticeable on the field.

“That was a big turnaround because he was a guy that was, I wouldn’t say he was lazy,” said Dawson. “But sometimes a big guy like that in hot Louisiana, he was trying to take some short cuts. But the spring before his senior year he really started to attack.

“He went from being big and good and passive to being big and good and aggressive. And I think that took him to another level when he really got caught up in the fitness part.”

This spring, Notre Dame’s coaching staff is seeing the finished product of another Evangel Christian product. Tillery is the first recruit from Louisiana to enroll at Notre Dame under Brian Kelly. Defensive end Bo Wallace will be the second Louisiana native when he joins Tillery in June.

Based on what the coaches have seen from Tillery, there could be some more trips in the future to “D-Line High.”

“He’s just a unique player,” Kelly said of Tillery. “One that I can’t remember that I’ve coached. He has a unique ability at such a young age to use his hands. Where we spend the first year and a half trying to get these kids to not drop their head and be overextended, he immediately can use his hands and use his size to his advantage.

“I’m so leery to talk about a freshman, but he’s a unique talent.”

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Stock reports, triathlons, official visit to Dartmouth and cracking first-team DL as a freshman. Meet Jerry Tillery: <a href="http://t.co/09S04bwdJy">http://t.co/09S04bwdJy</a></p>— Nick Ironside (@nironside247) <a href="https://twitter.com/nironside247/status/582918172354879488">March 31, 2015</a></blockquote>
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So whats the over/under date we switch Tillery's title to "Notre Dame Man"?
 

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Doesn't really surprise me to read this stuff. When he wanted to meet Father Ted and have his pic taken with him, it was obvious this kid "gets it".
 

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Wow, some people must like that we are returning nearly every starter from last year. If only we could finish in the top 10
 
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How about a front 4 of Day-JJones-Tillery-Rochelle. That's pretty damn good.

In terms of overall talent I think thats pretty good but those guys, hopefully, won't be on the field at the same time. We'd need some sort of WDE/speed rusher. We tried Day on the outside last year and thats not his game. He's about quickness off the ball, his lack of length and long speed are not great on the outside. I guess against the run on early downs it could happen but I don't see it.
 

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In terms of overall talent I think thats pretty good but those guys, hopefully, won't be on the field at the same time. We'd need some sort of WDE/speed rusher. We tried Day on the outside last year and thats not his game. He's about quickness off the ball, his lack of length and long speed are not great on the outside. I guess against the run on early downs it could happen but I don't see it.

Exactly my thoughts. Unless Tillery usurps Jones or Day, he should likely be first off the bench and we need Trumbetti/J Williams or some other edge rusher to make waves. Hopefully Cage has continued to develop as well, he seemed to be solid last year for a true frosh. I was hoping Jhonny W could've been ahead of the curve this year but it sounds like he may be following the typical path for a raw prospect.

Am I forgetting anyone that could be a true pass rush threat? Okwara? Hill?
 

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Exactly my thoughts. Unless Tillery usurps Jones or Day, he should likely be first off the bench and we need Trumbetti/J Williams or some other edge rusher to make waves. Hopefully Cage has continued to develop as well, he seemed to be solid last year for a true frosh. I was hoping Jhonny W could've been ahead of the curve this year but it sounds like he may be following the typical path for a raw prospect.

Am I forgetting anyone that could be a true pass rush threat? Okwara? Hill?

IMO, the person that is going to have their playing time significantly impacted by Tillery is Cage. Its pretty apparent that he's no longer Jones's back up and Tillery has taken that role. The idea that Tillery will be taking snaps from Day (not that you said that) is absolutely crazy, IMO. That only happens if Day gets hurt or tired.

WDE: Okwara, Trumbetti, Jhonny W, and Hill has practiced out of the Nickel this spring. Thats where we need to see some development come from. From the brief words by Gilmore that we've seen thus far it sounds like Trumbetti has the best chance of the group to provide that rush.
 

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Wow, some people must like that we are returning nearly every starter from last year. If only we could finish in the top 10

If we cant finish top 10 with a 3 year starter at QB (2015 being year 3), a quality change of pace QB, what 18 of 22 returning starters then we just really, really suck. That is so much more than any team I can remember returning starter wise that has won a NC since....

Im not saying pencil ND for the NC but we should be in the playoffs this year. If we arent, then I dont see a year when we will be. I cant see a team on our schedule with more returning talent than ND.
 

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If we cant finish top 10 with a 3 year starter at QB (2015 being year 3), a quality change of pace QB, what 18 of 22 returning starters then we just really, really suck. That is so much more than any team I can remember returning starter wise that has won a NC since....

Im not saying pencil ND for the NC but we should be in the playoffs this year. If we arent, then I dont see a year when we will be. I cant see a team on our schedule with more returning talent than ND.

This is definitely the year of put up or shut up for Kelly. If we don't get at least 10 wins his seat should be heating up IMO. We have depth and experience on both lines and we have at 2 quarterbacks with field experience and three that have been on the roster for at least two years. No more excuses.
 

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great writeup on tiller....excited to see what this kid brings in the fall
 

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This is definitely the year of put up or shut up for Kelly. If we don't get at least 10 wins his seat should be heating up IMO. We have depth and experience on both lines and we have at 2 quarterbacks with field experience and three that have been on the roster for at least two years. No more excuses.

I don't necessarily disagree with this but it should be more nuanced than that. We were on our way to a 10-win season last year then the injury bug depleted our entire defense. There are some situations where I wouldn't blame Kelly but I do believe he must reach double digit wins with this cast of characters.

We have a game breaker at every offensive position. Have an offensive line for which most head coaches would trade their left testicle. The defense should, at the very least, be better than last year. Our corners should be the best we've had since Kelly arrived. The rest is debatable but I don't recall having this much line depth ever. We have one freak outside LB and Nyles Morgan has made a push for that adjective. Our safeties aren't new on the scene.

The most important thing Kelly has done is stocked the cupboards and developed a football culture that assesses/reassesses everything: recruiting, game planning, interaction with players, training table, conditioning, etc.

Now is the time to stop doing the hypothetical and start doing the incredible. Win 10+ games for multiple seasons and don't have a down year with recruiting. Keep developing the atmosphere for these young men to grow and develop on and off the field.
 

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I don't necessarily disagree with this but it should be more nuanced than that. We were on our way to a 10-win season last year then the injury bug depleted our entire defense. There are some situations where I wouldn't blame Kelly but I do believe he must reach double digit wins with this cast of characters.

We have a game breaker at every offensive position. Have an offensive line for which most head coaches would trade their left testicle. The defense should, at the very least, be better than last year. Our corners should be the best we've had since Kelly arrived. The rest is debatable but I don't recall having this much line depth ever. We have one freak outside LB and Nyles Morgan has made a push for that adjective. Our safeties aren't new on the scene.

The most important thing Kelly has done is stocked the cupboards and developed a football culture that assesses/reassesses everything: recruiting, game planning, interaction with players, training table, conditioning, etc.

Now is the time to stop doing the hypothetical and start doing the incredible. Win 10+ games for multiple seasons and don't have a down year with recruiting. Keep developing the atmosphere for these young men to grow and develop on and off the field.

There will always be nuances, but this year BK has the depth (except at S) to get to double digits. Call it depth, or call it talented young bodies, but regardless, he's got enough tools in the bag to reach 10 wins. We saw what Urbie did last year with multiple backups and young kids. Develop them. Get them ready for next man in. Yes we had injuries, but is was as much our struggles with up-tempo teams as it was injuries.

With the coaching turnover,,,, I'll bet we'll all read our fair share of post using new scheme, new leadership, new XXX as an excuse after each and every loss.

I'm still on the BK train, but that will certainly change should we not reach 10 this year.
 

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I don't necessarily disagree with this but it should be more nuanced than that. We were on our way to a 10-win season last year then the injury bug depleted our entire defense. There are some situations where I wouldn't blame Kelly but I do believe he must reach double digit wins with this cast of characters.

We have a game breaker at every offensive position. Have an offensive line for which most head coaches would trade their left testicle. The defense should, at the very least, be better than last year. Our corners should be the best we've had since Kelly arrived. The rest is debatable but I don't recall having this much line depth ever. We have one freak outside LB and Nyles Morgan has made a push for that adjective. Our safeties aren't new on the scene.

The most important thing Kelly has done is stocked the cupboards and developed a football culture that assesses/reassesses everything: recruiting, game planning, interaction with players, training table, conditioning, etc.

Now is the time to stop doing the hypothetical and start doing the incredible. Win 10+ games for multiple seasons and don't have a down year with recruiting. Keep developing the atmosphere for these young men to grow and develop on and off the field.

Oh I agree, and there have been plenty of reasonable excuses for the last few years. But considering what we bring back and the extra year of experience plus depth, it would be hard to say things are headed in the right direction if we're not a top 10 team.
 
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