2015 FBS Polls

[IrishJayhawk]

Worth noting that Iowa's two best wins are at Northwestern (#23, a blowout) and Wisconsin (#24). They also beat Pitt.

That's pretty comparable to ND's biggest two wins by the rankings (#21 and #22).

ND is a better team to be sure. Just pointing out where things currently stand for my second favorite team.

 

[johnnycando]

Worth noting that Iowa's two best wins are at Northwestern (#23, a blowout) and Wisconsin (#24). They also beat Pitt.

That's pretty comparable to ND's biggest two wins by the rankings (#21 and #22).

ND is a better team to be sure. Just pointing out where things currently stand for my second favorite team.

Very likely up to 6 maybe 7 ND opponents are ranked by the years end.

As opposed to maybe 3 for Iowa.

That's where they differ.

How many college teams do you root for Jayhawks? j/k I get it.

 

[BGIF]

Worth noting that Iowa's two best wins are at Northwestern (#23, a blowout) and Wisconsin (#24). They also beat Pitt.

That's pretty comparable to ND's biggest two wins by the rankings (#21 and #22).

ND is a better team to be sure. Just pointing out where things currently stand for my second favorite team.

OK Rockchalk, I'm confused which is your second favorite team, ND, KU, or NW?

 

[IrishJayhawk]

OK Rockchalk, I'm confused which is your second favorite team, ND, KU, or NW?

In football, Iowa (native). In basketball, Iowa also (KU is first...ND isn't much on my radar). Not a fan of NW.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Very likely up to 6 maybe 7 ND opponents are ranked by the years end.

As opposed to maybe 3 for Iowa.

That's where they differ.

How many college teams do you root for Jayhawks? j/k I get it.

True enough. But the Iowa schedule isn't quite as bad as some think.

 

[BabyIrish]

I'm confused as to why navy stayed put and miss st jumped up a bunch of spots ahead of them when they beat a crappy Missouri team?

 

[ACamp1900]

BC S. E. C.

 

[BGIF]

I'm confused as to why navy stayed put and miss st jumped up a bunch of spots ahead of them when they beat a crappy Missouri team?

Navy stayed put? Check the polls.

They weren't in the Top 25 in either poll last week.

Navy moved up 15 slots in the AP according to the poll table at CBSSports.com while MSST moved up 4.

 

[johnnycando]

BTW, these polls are useless once the poll committee begins.

They didn't follow suit last week, this week they're closer.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

BTW, these polls are useless once the poll committee begins.

They didn't follow suit last week, this week they're closer.

Now we know what the Amway and Coaches poll sees (in their wildly changing 'guesstimations'); the ass end of the Alpha dog, the committee's poll results!

 

[ulukinatme]

I'm confused as to why navy stayed put and miss st jumped up a bunch of spots ahead of them when they beat a crappy Missouri team?

BC S. E. C.

Yup. While Navy did move into the Top 25, they should get a lot more love. I wasn't giving them enough credit back in October as a decent opponent, yet here they are at 7-1 with their lone loss being to us. I imagine Navy will be favored in their remaining games too, aside from Houston (Who I think they can beat).

 

[T Town Tommy]

BC S. E. C.

That's why Oklahoma State jumped as high as they did. That's also why Fla was ranked 10th in the first committee poll even though their metric's was better than most of the one loss teams in front of them.

ess ee see

note: I agreed with where the committee had Fla at 10. They aren't the same team with Harris as their QB. I do believe if their other QB hadn't been popped, they would have came in around 7 in the first poll. Now, they are probably considered at the bottom of the one loss teams.. as they should be IMO.

 

[BabyIrish]

Navy stayed put? Check the polls.

They weren't in the Top 25 in either poll last week.

Navy moved up 15 slots in the AP according to the poll table at CBSSports.com while MSST moved up 4.

My bad, I skimmed through the polls and saw that Navy didn't have any movement from the previous week without realizing that it just meant they were outside the top 25 last week

 

[Legacy]

SEC standings

SEC standings

I would expect Mississippi (#18) and A&M (#19) to drop from the Playoff top 25 standings.

That leaves Alabama, LSU, Florida and Mississippi State (#20) in the Playoff's Top 25. With a loss to Alabama this weekend, that should drop Mississippi State from the rankings and leaving only three SEC teams with less than three losses.

It will be interesting to see how the Committee evaluates Florida's last minute win over Vandy. They could drop behind all the other one loss teams except Temple. LSU might not drop too far, ranking ahead of Michigan State and TCU.

I doubt Alabama looks on Florida as much of a challenge.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

UNC better be ranked in the top 20


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[sheffieldcelt]

You guys know the polls better than me but I'd rather see Clemson win out ensure we do make it in we go 11-1


Also would be happy to be #4 and meet Clemson as confident we beat them even at their place

For me I think a Clemson defeat puts at risk our chance of entry at 11-1

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Number FOUR, baby!

Michigan beat OSU and Iowa

Sanford win'em till you play the IRISH!

Big 12, have at it!

FSU beat Florida!

Question, would a one loss Oklahoma get in over ND? Since there is no Big12 Championship, would Texas be Irish insurance?

 

[BGIF]

Toughest Schedule In The Nation

Toughest Schedule In The Nation

Ever since the '15 Schedule was released some fans here have lamented how soft ND's schedule was and that there was no way ND would be considered for the Playoffs due to the schedule. Some have continued that lament throughout the season.

It's not just the W's and L's but who they play. The Playoff committee realizes this and takes it into consideration when ranking teams even though most pollsters don't take the time to look and see how teams stack up based upon the competition.

Not on;ly is ND's Schedule #1 but ND opponents fill 3 of the 4 remaining Top 5 Slots. 5 opponents' schedules are in the Top 10 Toughest. 6 In the Top 25. 10 in the Top 50.

The Tough Schedules of our oppponents partially explain the scarity of wins among Wake, GT, TX and BC. Interestingly 2 of the opponents with the best records make it into the Top 80.


Check some of the other high ranked teams in the polls that play substantially softer schedules.


BCF Toys - 2015 SOS Ratings

Toughest Schedules
1. ND 8-1
2. WF 2-6
3. GT 2-6
5. Texas 4-5
8. BC 1-7
9. USC 6-3
25. Stanford 8-1
29. Navy 6-1
41. Virginia 2-6
46. Mass 1-8
47. Pitt 5-3
75. Clemson 8-0
77. Temple 8-1

 

[BGIF]

Last Week ND was 6th in both AP and Coaches Polls.

Last Week ND was 6th in both AP and Coaches Polls.

This week ND might move up a slot or get passed by Iowa.

(Last Week's rankings)
#1 Clemson won close but stay put.
#2 OSU did what they done all season
#3 Bama "Impressive" beating #18 MSST
#4 Baylor lost and takes a dive.
#5 OKS won close but they'll move to 4th.
#6 ND didn't cover but the outcome was never in doubt. ND was up 21-0 and should move a slot despite lowest offensive output of the season.
#7 Stanford lost on a 2 pt try but will drop into mid teens.
#8 Iowa won close over MIN and moves behind or in front of ND.
#9 LSU got beaten in Death Valley by Arky and drops to mid teens.
#10 Utah got upset by AZ and plugnes into the teens.
#11 UF moves ahead of BU, SU, LSU, and UT.
#12 OU gets "The Leap Of The Week" for being The Fraud. Could pass IA and ND via the former BU voters.
#13 TCU squeaked by KU. They should drop on their own merits but too many higher ranked teams lost ahead of them but they won't move up 4 slots getting jumped.
#14 MSU beat MD but lost QB Cook. Move up a couple with all the losers.
#15 MI won in 2OT over IU. IU in 2OT. Should get passed.
#16 Houston slept for most of the game and Mem was wide right giving the Coogs a win. They'll move up a couple slots in the crowded teens.
#17 UNC is the hot team in the media. They'll get promoted to around 12
#18 UCLA dropping out.
#19 FSU beat NCS Golson benched. Noles move up a slot or two.
#20 MSST buzzed by Bama. Goodbye.
#21 Temple loss #2. Goodbye
#22 Navy QB set a new career TD record. Mids crack the Top 20.
#23 WIS won over BYE. Moves up to replace UCLA, MSST, and TEM.
#24 NW only beat PU on a 4Q TD for 7 pt win but benefit from UCLA, MSST, TEM dropping out.
#25 Memphis blew a win and drop out.

Movin' In
USC #1 in PAC 12 South.
MISS had a BYE while others were dropping out.
A&M beat up Western Carolina which will impress the voters

 

[NDhoosier]

Top 4 wont change any this week. Oklahoma will shoot up though. Probably to #6.

 

[BGIF]

ND 5

ND 5

ND 15 points behind OKS in both AP and Coaches

AP Poll 11/15

The AP Top 25 Poll | College Football

1 Clem
2 OSU
3 ALA
4 OKS 1,301
5 ND 1,286
6 IA
7 OU
8 UF
9 MSU
10 BU
11 TCU
12 UNC
13 Hou
14 MI
15 SU
16 FSU
17 LSU
18 Utah
19 Navy
20 NW
21 WIS
22 USC
23 ORE
24 WSU
25 MISS

ORVs
Toledo 39, Arkansas 35, Memphis 32, Mississippi St. 25, UCLA 18, Pittsburgh 15, Temple 13, Georgia 8, Texas A&M 8, Bowling Green 4, W. Kentucky 4, Air Force 1, Arkansas St. 1

 

[BGIF]

Coaches Poll 11/15

NCAA College Football Rankings - CBSSports.com

COACHES POLL
1. Clemson
2. Ohio State
3. Alabama
4. Oklahoma State 1348 pts
5. Notre Dame 1333
6. Iowa
7. Oklahoma
8. Florida
9. Michigan State
10. Baylor
11. TCU
12. North Carolina
13. Michigan
14. Houston
15. Stanford
16. Florida State
17. LSU
18. Utah
19. Navy
20. Wisconsin
21. Northwestern
22. Oregon
23. Washington State
24. Southern California
25. Ole Miss
25. Mississippi State

Others Receiving Votes: UCLA (7-3) 57; Memphis (8-2) 51; Georgia (7-3) 35; Toledo (8-1) 33; Arkansas (6-4) 28; Texas A&M (7-3) 25; Temple (8-2) 17; Pittsburgh (7-3) 14; Western Kentucky (8-2) 11; Bowling Green (8-2) 8; Louisville (6-4) 3; Arkansas State (7-3) 2; Appalachian State (8-2) 2; Brigham Young (7-3) 1; Marshall (9-2) 1

 

[BGIF]

Sagarin's Predictor Model has

1 OU
2 ALA
3 CL
4 BU (this model likes high scores)
5 OSU
6 ND
7 USC
8 SU
9 MI
10 MISS
11 UNC
12 TCU
13 UF
14 OKS
15 TEN
16 FSU
17 Utah
18 WIS
19 LSU
20 IA
21 MSST
22 UCLA
23 MSU
24 WVU
25 UW
26 ARK
27 HOU
28 UGA
29 Navy
30 CAL
31 GT
36 PITT
51 TEM
59 TEX
74 UVA
75 BC
91 WF
128 MASS

 

[BGIF]

Sagarin Strength of Schedule

(ND & Opponents highlighted)

MD 1
ISU 2
ALA 3
KU 4
TEX 5
SCar 6
ARK 7
KSU 8
AUB 9
UVA 10

UW 11
WVU 12
GT 14
TEN 16
CAL 17
LSU 18
UTAH 19

USC 20
ORE 23
PITT 24
ND 25
SU 28

UF 31
CL 34
A&M 36
MISS 37

WSU 40
MSST 42
NW 43
OU 44
UGA 45
WF 49

UCLA 50
BC 52
FSU 53
IA 55
MI 56
TCU 57
OKS 58

MSU 60
MEM 61
OSU 67

UNC 73
BU 76
WIS 77

Navy 84
MASS 88

TEM 92

HOU 103

 

[BGIF]

11/22/15

11/22/15

39 points separate #3 Iowa from #6 MSU. ND 8 points behind IA and 22 points ahead of OU.

ASSOCIATED PRESS TOP 25
1. Clemson 1518 points
2. Alabama 1469
3. Iowa 1325
4. Notre Dame 1317
5. Oklahoma 1295
6. Michigan State 1286
7. Baylor 1161
8. Ohio State
9. Oklahoma State
10. Florida
11. North Carolina
12. Michigan
13. Stanford
14. Florida State
15. TCU
16. Navy
17. Northwestern
18. Oregon
19. Ole Miss
20. Washington State
21. Houston
22. UCLA
23. Mississippi State
24. Toledo
25. Temple
Others Receiving Votes: Utah (8-3) 100; Pittsburgh (8-3) 60; LSU (7-3) 33; Texas A&M (8-3) 27; Wisconsin (8-3) 21; Air Force (8-3) 15; Southern California (7-4) 8; Arkansas (6-5) 7; Western Kentucky (9-2) 6; Georgia (8-3) 5; Brigham Young (8-3) 3; Tennessee (7-4) 2; West Virginia (6-4) 1; Arkansas State (7-3) 1; South Florida (7-4) 1

 

[BGIF]

11/22/15

11/22/15

55 points separate #3 Iowa from #5 OU. OU 9 points behind ND.

COACHES POLL
1. Clemson 1590 points
2. Alabama 1531
3. Iowa 1419
4. Notre Dame 1373
5. Oklahoma 1364
6. Michigan State 1302
7. Baylor 1201
8. Ohio State
9. Florida
10. Oklahoma State
11. North Carolina
12. Michigan
12. Stanford
14. Florida State
15. Navy
16. TCU
17. Northwestern
18. Oregon
19. Ole Miss
20. Washington State
21. Houston
22. Mississippi State
23. UCLA
24. Temple
25. Utah
Others Receiving Votes: LSU (7-3) 82; Toledo (9-1) 69; Wisconsin (8-3) 58; Texas A&M (8-3) 54; Pittsburgh (8-3) 46; Georgia (8-3) 34; Southern California (7-4) 27; Western Kentucky (9-2) 12; Arkansas (6-5) 7; West Virginia (6-4) 6; Air Force (8-3) 6; Bowling Green (8-3) 5; Brigham Young (8-3) 5; San Diego State (8-3) 3; Appalachian State (8-2) 2; Arkansas State (7-3) 1

 

[BGIF]

RK	TEAM	REC	PTS	TREND	LAST WEEK	NEXT WEEK
1	 Clemson(58)	11-0	1590	—	vs Wake Forest W 33-13	11/28 @South Carolina
2	 Alabama(5)	10-1	1531	▲ 1	vs Charleston Southern W 56-6	11/28 @ Auburn
3	 Iowa    (1)	11-0	1419	▲ 3	vs Purdue W 40-20	11/27 @ Nebraska
4	 Notre Dame	10-1	1373	▲ 1	vs Boston College W 19-16	11/28 @ #12 Stanford
5	 Oklahoma 	10-1	1364	▲ 2	vs #11 TCU W 30-29	11/28 @ #10 Oklahoma State
6	 Michigan State	10-1	1302	▲ 3	@ #2 Ohio State W 17-14	11/28 vs Penn State
7	 Baylor       	9-1	1201	▲ 3	@ #4 Oklahoma State W 45-35	11/27 @ #16 TCU
8	 Ohio State	10-1	1138	▼ 6	vs #9 Michigan State L 17-14	11/28 @ #12 Michigan
9	 Florida	10-1	1047	▲ 1	vs Florida Atlantic W 20-14	11/28 vsM #14 Florida State
10	 Okla St	10-1	956	▼ 6	vs #10 Baylor L 45-35	11/28 vs #5 Oklahoma
11	 North Car	10-1	929	▲ 1	@ Virginia Tech W 30-27	11/28 @ NC State
12	 Stanford	9-2	881	▲ 3	vs California W 35-22	11/28 vs #4 Notre Dame
	 Michigan	9-2	881	▲ 1	@ Penn State W 28-16	11/28 vs #8 Ohio State
14	 Fla St	9-2	783	▲ 2	vs Chattanooga W 52-13	11/28 @ #9 Florida
15	 Navy 	9-1	674	▲ 4	@ Tulsa W 44-21	11/27 @ #21 Houston
16	 Tex Ch	9-2	626	▼ 5	@ #7 Oklahoma L 30-29	11/27 vs #7 Baylor
17	 Northwes	9-2	569	▲ 4	@ #20 Wisconsin W 13-7	11/28 vs Illinois
18	 Oregon	8-3	482	▲ 4	vs #24 USC W 48-28	11/27 vs Oregon State
19	 Ole Miss	8-3	383	▲ 6	vs #17 LSU W 38-17	11/28 @ #22 Mississippi State
20	 WSU	8-3	327	▲ 3	vs Colorado W 27-3	11/27 @ Washington
21	 Houston	10-1	256	▼ 7	@ Connecticut L 20-17	11/27 vs #15 Navy
22	 Miss ST	8-3	230	▲ 3	@ Arkansas W 51-50	11/28 vs #19 Ole Miss
23	 UCLA	8-3	224	▲ 4	@M #18 Utah W 17-9	11/28 @ USC
24	 Temple	9-2	116	▲ 9	vs Memphis W 31-12	11/28 vs Connecticut
25	 Utah 	8-3	101	▼ 7	vs UCLA L 17-9	11/28 vs Colorado
Dropped from rankings:LSU 17, WIS 20, USC 24						
Others receiving votes:LSU 82, TOL 69, WIS 58, A&M 54, PITT 46, UGA 34, USC 27, WKU 12, ARK 7, WVU 6, AF 6, BYU 5, BG 5, SDS 3, APPS 2, ARKS 1

 

[IrishinSyria]

RK	TEAM	REC	PTS	TREND	LAST WEEK	NEXT WEEK
1	 Clemson(58)	11-0	1590	—	vs Wake Forest W 33-13	11/28 @South Carolina
2	 Alabama(5)	10-1	1531	▲ 1	vs Charleston Southern W 56-6	11/28 @ Auburn
3	 Iowa    (1)	11-0	1419	▲ 3	vs Purdue W 40-20	11/27 @ Nebraska
4	 Notre Dame	10-1	1373	▲ 1	vs Boston College W 19-16	11/28 @ #12 Stanford
5	 Oklahoma 	10-1	1364	▲ 2	vs #11 TCU W 30-29	11/28 @ #10 Oklahoma State
6	 Michigan State	10-1	1302	▲ 3	@ #2 Ohio State W 17-14	11/28 vs Penn State
7	 Baylor       	9-1	1201	▲ 3	@ #4 Oklahoma State W 45-35	11/27 @ #16 TCU
8	 Ohio State	10-1	1138	▼ 6	vs #9 Michigan State L 17-14	11/28 @ #12 Michigan
9	 Florida	10-1	1047	▲ 1	vs Florida Atlantic W 20-14	11/28 vsM #14 Florida State
10	 Okla St	10-1	956	▼ 6	vs #10 Baylor L 45-35	11/28 vs #5 Oklahoma
11	 North Car	10-1	929	▲ 1	@ Virginia Tech W 30-27	11/28 @ NC State
12	 Stanford	9-2	881	▲ 3	vs California W 35-22	11/28 vs #4 Notre Dame
	 Michigan	9-2	881	▲ 1	@ Penn State W 28-16	11/28 vs #8 Ohio State
14	 Fla St	9-2	783	▲ 2	vs Chattanooga W 52-13	11/28 @ #9 Florida
15	 Navy 	9-1	674	▲ 4	@ Tulsa W 44-21	11/27 @ #21 Houston
16	 Tex Ch	9-2	626	▼ 5	@ #7 Oklahoma L 30-29	11/27 vs #7 Baylor
17	 Northwes	9-2	569	▲ 4	@ #20 Wisconsin W 13-7	11/28 vs Illinois
18	 Oregon	8-3	482	▲ 4	vs #24 USC W 48-28	11/27 vs Oregon State
19	 Ole Miss	8-3	383	▲ 6	vs #17 LSU W 38-17	11/28 @ #22 Mississippi State
20	 WSU	8-3	327	▲ 3	vs Colorado W 27-3	11/27 @ Washington
21	 Houston	10-1	256	▼ 7	@ Connecticut L 20-17	11/27 vs #15 Navy
22	 Miss ST	8-3	230	▲ 3	@ Arkansas W 51-50	11/28 vs #19 Ole Miss
23	 UCLA	8-3	224	▲ 4	@M #18 Utah W 17-9	11/28 @ USC
24	 Temple	9-2	116	▲ 9	vs Memphis W 31-12	11/28 vs Connecticut
25	 Utah 	8-3	101	▼ 7	vs UCLA L 17-9	11/28 vs Colorado
Dropped from rankings:LSU 17, WIS 20, USC 24						
Others receiving votes:LSU 82, TOL 69, WIS 58, A&M 54, PITT 46, UGA 34, USC 27, WKU 12, ARK 7, WVU 6, AF 6, BYU 5, BG 5, SDS 3, APPS 2, ARKS 1

3-6 are super packed here, which strikes me as about right.

 

[Irish#1]

The polls still like us, so that should help a little with the committee.