'19 CT WR Cornelius Johnson (Offer)

[BobbyMac]

Good point. Just saying it adds another barrier. Plus we should take into account 2020 recruits. Does another 2019 WR deter one of them from not sigining?

Deter's not the right word.

It will be one less scholarship available at WR in '20 for one of ND's top targets to accept... but C. Johnson now is worth missing out on whoever that might be in '20.

 

[KizerWilhelm]

Tristan Sinclair’s dad went to Stanford too. I just don’t think the legacy thing is a 100% thing. I definitely think Stanford will be tough to beat, but ND offered a month before, he’s been to ND, and might want to have his own legacy to leave at a different school. Ethan Rae’s dad went to UCLA and the kid just committed to USC.

This post isn’t going to age well when Sinclair commits to the trees too, lol

 

[NDMIA]

This post isn’t going to age well when Sinclair commits to the trees too, lol

If/when Tristan Sinclair and Cornelius Johnson both commit to the trees then it doesn’t lessen what I’ve said. The point I’m making is the legacy thing is a steep hill to overcome but not impossible. Case and point is Ethan Rae going to USC. Shoot, Houston Griffith’s dad was a stud at Illinois and Howard Cross’ dad starred at Alabama, Quinn Carroll’s dad was at Minnesota, and Jack Kiser’s family were Boilermaker’s. So if they commit to Stanford it won’t be part of the 100% of legacies who follow their fathers.

 

[NDIrish88]

If/when Tristan Sinclair and Cornelius Johnson both commit to the trees then it doesn’t lessen what I’ve said. The point I’m making is the legacy thing is a steep hill to overcome but not impossible. Case and point is Ethan Rae going to USC. Shoot, Houston Griffith’s dad was a stud at Illinois and Howard Cross’ dad starred at Alabama, Quinn Carroll’s dad was at Minnesota, and Jack Kiser’s family were Boilermaker’s. So if they commit to Stanford it won’t be part of the 100% of legacies who follow their fathers.

An article just got posted on ISD about this.https://irishsportsdaily.com/s/6709/legacy-opportunities-offer-comfort-but-not-easy-decisions

 

[KizerWilhelm]

If/when Tristan Sinclair and Cornelius Johnson both commit to the trees then it doesn’t lessen what I’ve said. The point I’m making is the legacy thing is a steep hill to overcome but not impossible. Case and point is Ethan Rae going to USC. Shoot, Houston Griffith’s dad was a stud at Illinois and Howard Cross’ dad starred at Alabama, Quinn Carroll’s dad was at Minnesota, and Jack Kiser’s family were Boilermaker’s. So if they commit to Stanford it won’t be part of the 100% of legacies who follow their fathers.

Of those, Howard Cross is the only one that isn't a pretty clear upgrade football-wise, and Alabama didn't offer him.

Even if you think Notre Dame wins 50/50 when recruiting against Stanford (which is generous), you gotta figure the legacy factor gives them an edge in both recruitments in the long run. A surmountable edge perhaps, but an edge nonetheless.

An article just got posted on ISD about this.https://irishsportsdaily.com/s/6709/legacy-opportunities-offer-comfort-but-not-easy-decisions

Interestingly, this makes more hey of Johnson's mother being a Michigan grad.

 

[NDMIA]

Clint Brewster with an ND CB!

 

[NDIrish88]

Clint Brewster with an ND CB!

Will wait on brian dohn or the west coast boys

 

[ab2cmiller]

Will wait on brian dohn or the west coast boys

Agreed. On top of that, Brewster CB stats show that he's one of the least accurate predictors out there.

 

[NDMIA]

Sure the Clint Brewster CB isn’t probably a great predictor, but Wiltfong, Loy, Ramos, and Brewster all thinking he ends up at ND is a fairly good predictor. I just want this to happen real bad cause I think he’s a great fit for ND.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Agreed. On top of that, Brewster CB stats show that he's one of the least accurate predictors out there.

Least accurate?

Still hype

 

[BobbyMac]

Brewster's at the Mothership in TN so he's getting better watercooler intel than most.

Too bad it's not a CB for Aidan Kamanawanalea. They went to the same HS.

 

[Luckylucci]

Loy has been saying for awhile that a few of our top WR targets have been waiting to see how Wimbush performs this year, as a factor in their decision.

I don't necessarily put a lot of stock in that, as they won't be playing with him if he's good or bad. So, TIFWIW but If Wimbush comes out on fire, maybe that helps here.

 

[NDIrish88]

Loy has been saying for awhile that a few of our top WR targets have been waiting to see how Wimbush performs this year, as a factor in their decision.

I don't necessarily put a lot of stock in that, as they won't be playing with him if he's good or bad. So TIFWIW. If Wimbush comes out on fire, maybe that helps here.

I think it is more of a gauge on the offense overall. Last year we were run heavy. They probably want to see more passing, regardless of QB. My response to those recruits would be, "have you seen our offensive line? Why wouldn't we pound the ball"?

Also Alabama isn't considered a pass heavy team and they still got Jerry Judy, Jaylen Waddle, Devonta Smith, etc.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I think it is more of a gauge on the offense overall. Last year we were run heavy. They probably want to see more passing, regardless of QB. My response to those recruits would be, "have you seen our offensive line? Why wouldn't we pound the ball"?

Also Alabama isn't considered a pass heavy team and they still got Jerry Judy, Jaylen Waddle, Devonta Smith, etc.

The opportunity to win a national championship will do that for you.

 

[KizerWilhelm]

Agreed. On top of that, Brewster CB stats show that he's one of the least accurate predictors out there.

His overall percentage is dragged down by the years when he was a Michigan beat writer. Compare his stats this year and last (84.71%, 81.25%) to 2016 and 2017 (55.56%, 57.78%). You go back and look at the bad years, and they're almost all wrong guesses in Michigan's favor.

 

[NDIrish88]

The opportunity to win a national championship will do that for you.

Touche!

 

[ab2cmiller]

His overall percentage is dragged down by the years when he was a Michigan beat writer. Compare his stats this year and last (84.71%, 81.25%) to 2016 and 2017 (55.56%, 57.78%). You go back and look at the bad years, and they're almost all wrong guesses in Michigan's favor.

I didn't even go back to 2016 and 2017. I just looked at 2018 and 2019 and he is in the bottom 25%

 

[ab2cmiller]

I didn't even go back to 2016 and 2017. I just looked at 2018 and 2019 and he is in the bottom 25%

Nevermind, I was looking at it incorrectly. He's not in the bottom 25% from what I can tell. It looks like he's in the bottom 1/3rd for 2019.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

He needs to be more concerned about 5 Star Phil, than Brandon.

 

[stlnd01]

I think it is more of a gauge on the offense overall. Last year we were run heavy. They probably want to see more passing, regardless of QB. My response to those recruits would be, "have you seen our offensive line? Why wouldn't we pound the ball"?

Then I'd say: "And have you seen our RB recruiting? Do you want to play RB?"

 

[Sherm Sticky]

No real update on his recruiting from my friend.

Stanford, Notre Dame and Michigan seem to be the leaders. Duke is the dark horse team to watch here. Academics are really important for the family.


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[Luckylucci]

He needs to be more concerned about 5 Star Phil, than Brandon.

Exactly, that’s why it’s either dumb that prospects feel that way or Loy is full of shit. At most they’ll play their Freshman year with Wimbush. Lol.

 

[stlnd01]

Exactly, that’s why it’s either dumb that prospects feel that way or Loy is full of shit. At most they’ll play their Freshman year with Wimbush. Lol.

Heck, in all likelihood they'll have a different offensive coordinator by sophomore or junior year. Pick the school, kid. Not the staff, and certainly not the guy who plays QB while you're in high school.

 

[NDIrish88]

Wiltfong CB to the tree

 

[BobbyMac]

Does Loy say which game or just that he will OV to ND?

https://247sports.com/college/notre...icial-visit-to-Notre-Dame-Football-120576154/

 

[KizerWilhelm]

Michigan game

 

[BobbyMac]

Michigan game

Didn't figure they'd dodge both of the P's schools.

At least he'll be there with a lot of kids headed for South Bend.

 

[NDIrish88]

I think he is gonna be hard to snatch away from Mich or Stan. Maybe he wants to make his own way tho? Gotta be hard considering it parents are from rival schools

 

[BobbyMac]

Must Read! Great freebie from ESPN, penned by Mr. Johnson himself:

I'm all in on young Mr. Johnson now... has roots in Chicago's Southside and G-Grandpa worked the Pullman cars as did many in my family. Pullman was also the main employer in my adopted hometown of Michigan City.

Love multi-generational stories that show how hard work, education and a plan can change the trajectory of a family regardless of where the launching pad was located.

So full speed ahead on a recruit who is a Stanford + Michigan legacy... because these usually end well.

Regardless, RKG's from RKF's are as rare as rust free IROC-Z's whose t-tops don't leak... and I want every last one of them.

https://theundefeated.com/features/...n-their-grandfathers-shoulders-d-free-series/

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you! In case anyone missed it: <a href="https://t.co/6fd6lrSfG2">https://t.co/6fd6lrSfG2</a> <a href="https://t.co/Hp2F1duiQf">https://t.co/Hp2F1duiQf</a></p>— Claude Johnson (@ClaudeJohnson) <a href="https://twitter.com/ClaudeJohnson/status/1019749245996462080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Sherm Sticky]

My understand from my friend is that the youngest son Carnegie is the best athlete of the 3. He could end up being a better prospect in football than both his brothers. And he is just as good if not better at basketball. And I think we all would make the choice to play basketball over football if there was an equal shot of making it to the NBA or NFL.


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