'18 MD DT Ja'Mion Franklin (Notre Dame Signee)

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I'm perfectly fine with him committing before the Finals, if he is indeed going to be Irish. It gives us one more kid to go out and recruit in Oregon with the kids we already have representing the Irish.

I'm fine with it too. Whether he does it on the 6th or in Oregon doesn't change how many guys that would be in Oregon recruiting for the Irish. IF he's Irish next Tuesday, he's been Irish for a while.

Were you told this was the case?

Because I'd bet that Ja'Mion wanted to do something at his school. He's all about his hometown "the ridge". It is everywhere on his twitter and he's constantly repping it and talking about it. To assume the staff steered him away from doing a commitment at the Opening, is a little misguided, since we know this info.

I wasn't told anything. If he's Irish next Tuesday, he's already Irish silently. As a staff, I would have steered him to turn the Opening into an Irish event if in fact they have other commits waiting to pop as everyone thinks. A staff should be able to coordinate that if they are that close with all the suspects. If they aren't, then no harm done and let him do the formalities at his HS or wherever.

Maybe it's his decision and not the staffs!?

Thank you for that reminder. But I'll remind you it's the staff's job to do whatever creates the biggest impact and nothing has more recruits eye's... '18, '19, '20 and beyond than the Opening Finals.

While past history surely isn't on their side. They are absolutely crushing other aspects, like graphics. Commits and recruits mentioning how its the best in the game.

Unless we've been told that this was the staffs preference, I'd assume the opposite. This was Ja'Mion's call and he wanted to do it in his hometown, at his school. Much more logical, IMO.

Of course it was his call. Didn't imply otherwise. In regards to the edits:

They were great and then Grant left for Louisville??? right after the last (area code) to 574 campaign.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">awesome first week in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheVille?src=hash">#TheVille</a>! thank y'all for such a warm welcome<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BirdGang18?src=hash">#BirdGang18</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/L1C4?src=hash">#L1C4</a> 🔴⚪️⚫️ <a href="https://t.co/Z8CySFNIad">pic.twitter.com/Z8CySFNIad</a></p>— Grant Apgar (@grant_apgar) <a href="https://twitter.com/grant_apgar/status/865724747174301696">May 20, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Actually winning games on the field will help PR/recruiting much more than some kid announcing his commitment at a meaningless Nike event.

2017 is calling and it's for you.

ND must capitalize on EVERY opportunity to win like OSU and Bama. They have no room for error. They must hit a homerun every time they're up.

Meaningless Nike event? Meaningless in terms of recruiting?

I'm confused as to why you have so many negative reps with this kind of hard hitting and quality knowledge.

Thank you. Obviously some things are self explanatory.

I know events like these have an impact on a recruits rankings, but I don't care about that.

If ND wants to show recruits and people in general that they are back it won't be done by having a kid commit at The Opening. They need to win games.

A KID? That's what you're missing. I wasn't talking about A KID.

This stuff that you don't care about in the off season is what wins 10+ games in the fall.
 

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2017 is calling and it's for you.

ND must capitalize on EVERY opportunity to win like OSU and Bama. They have no room for error. They must hit a homerun every time they're up.

OSU and Bama win consistently and are actually elite programs. That's the biggest reason for their recruiting success. Until ND starts doing that and gets the type of coaching those programs have they won't be on that level no matter how many recruits commit at The Opening.
 

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I'm fine with it too. Whether he does it on the 6th or in Oregon doesn't change how many guys that would be in Oregon recruiting for the Irish. IF he's Irish next Tuesday, he's been Irish for a while.



I wasn't told anything. If he's Irish next Tuesday, he's already Irish silently. As a staff, I would have steered him to turn the Opening into an Irish event if in fact they have other commits waiting to pop as everyone thinks. A staff should be able to coordinate that if they are that close with all the suspects. If they aren't, then no harm done and let him do the formalities at his HS or wherever.



Thank you for that reminder. But I'll remind you it's the staff's job to do whatever creates the biggest impact and nothing has more recruits eye's... '18, '19, '20 and beyond than the Opening Finals.



Of course it was his call. Didn't imply otherwise. In regards to the edits:

They were great and then Grant left for Louisville??? right after the last (area code) to 574 campaign.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">awesome first week in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TheVille?src=hash">#TheVille</a>! thank y'all for such a warm welcome<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BirdGang18?src=hash">#BirdGang18</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/L1C4?src=hash">#L1C4</a> &#55357;&#56628;⚪️⚫️ <a href="https://t.co/Z8CySFNIad">pic.twitter.com/Z8CySFNIad</a></p>— Grant Apgar (@grant_apgar) <a href="https://twitter.com/grant_apgar/status/865724747174301696">May 20, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



2017 is calling and it's for you.

ND must capitalize on EVERY opportunity to win like OSU and Bama. They have no room for error. They must hit a homerun every time they're up.



Thank you. Obviously some things are self explanatory.



A KID? That's what you're missing. I wasn't talking about A KID.

This stuff that you don't care about in the off season is what wins 10+ games in the fall.

I guess the issue I have is that you are implying that the staff is at fault here. First by saying it was poor marketing/PR, period and now implying that they aren't that close to commits or this would have gotten done. Which, unless you were told something, seems like a huge reach, IMO. I'm not sure how anyone could feel that way, if indeed all that happened was Franklin wanting to commit at his school. I'd rather have the kid make a commitment the way he wanted and be happy about it, then try to convince him of doing something else. Unless we know that the staff made no attempt to do this, or steered him away from doing so, then I don't think we should be speculating on how this went down.

There are things to be critical of, I'm just not sure this is one of them.
 
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OSU and Bama win consistently and are actually elite programs. That's the biggest reason for their recruiting success. Until ND starts doing that and gets the type of coaching those programs have they won't be on that level no matter how many recruits commit at The Opening.

1) ND isn't going to magically start winning like OSU and Bama without better recruits.

2) It isn't a zero sum equation. Winning, doesn't mean not looking good at the biggest summer camp in regards to recruiting. Why not both? They need to do everything they can, and place many bets, including generating any pro-ND buzz at the opening, which is what Cruisader is saying.
 

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OSU and Bama win consistently and are actually elite programs. That's the biggest reason for their recruiting success. Until ND starts doing that and gets the type of coaching those programs have they won't be on that level no matter how many recruits commit at The Opening.

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Thank you for that reminder. But I'll remind you it's the staff's job to do whatever creates the biggest impact and nothing has more recruits eye's... '18, '19, '20 and beyond than the Opening Finals.

I don't disagree that it's the staffs job to do whatever it takes to make the biggest splash, but if a kid doesn't want to announce when the staff wants him to, then it's best not to pressure him too much and possibly lose him.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I'll be going live here at 11:45 as Jamion Franklin makes his decision.<br><br>One 2018 recruiting class will get a big boost at noon. <br><br>Tune in!! <a href="https://t.co/ClVBJRCEKg">pic.twitter.com/ClVBJRCEKg</a></p>— Travon Miles (@TMiles47ABC) <a href="https://twitter.com/TMiles47ABC/status/872105866530627591">June 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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dude is gonna periscope the ceremony
 
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Lots of Twitter love coming his way from guys already committed. Someones got to tell him they are Shamrocks, not clovers.

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Lenzy and Justin Ade are watching and commenting.


...Jayson Ade just chimed in too.

Boys seem solid.

I'm just worried i haven't been hearing anything from Stepp is a llloooonnnggg time.
 

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Wait, what's that other kid up there for lol?
 

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no idea what that other kid just did? he committed to his own high school or something?
 

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Welcome to the class Ja'Mion! Big time DL haul this year.
 

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This edit is dope:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Welcome to the family <a href="https://twitter.com/Jamion_Franklin">@Jamion_Franklin</a> <a href="https://t.co/zXuJeD96b0">pic.twitter.com/zXuJeD96b0</a></p>— Braden Lenzy (@blspeedy21) <a href="https://twitter.com/blspeedy21/status/872124591912525824">June 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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he committed to BC i think? I have no idea lol they should have had somebody up on stage hosting the ceremony and making this clear lol

Yeah he went to BC but i think the one guy said he won't go up there and talk talk talk because this is their day.
 

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My favorite t-shirt, my favorite hat. Me likey this young man.

Nooice.
 

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This edit is dope:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Welcome to the family <a href="https://twitter.com/Jamion_Franklin">@Jamion_Franklin</a> <a href="https://t.co/zXuJeD96b0">pic.twitter.com/zXuJeD96b0</a></p>— Braden Lenzy (@blspeedy21) <a href="https://twitter.com/blspeedy21/status/872124591912525824">June 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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If this edit is accurate, John Dirksen is my kid's 7th grade science teacher and Cole Mabry put 4 new Michelins on my Benz yesterday at Discount Tire.
 
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