'18 IL ATH Houston Griffith (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[IrishFanForever23]

ND is 100% out of it.
***Thoughts from The Opening

 

[Meatloaf]

ND is 100% out of it.
***Thoughts from The Opening

If that is indeed the case, piss poor recruiting job by Kelly and co.

 

[BobbyMac]

If that is indeed the case, piss poor recruiting job by Kelly and co.

When he's playing safety at whatever school and ND is running Ajavon and Allen out at safety, no one will remember that ND once led for the onetime CB.

 

[KizerWilhelm]

If that is indeed the case, piss poor recruiting job by Kelly and co.

Nah, I agree with what lucci said. I'm not sure what Kelly and co could have done that they didn't already, and as a result we led for awhile.

Maybe-- and this is crazy-- different kids just have different priorities, and ND will never be able to cater to the ones who just want to coast for four years and end up with a serviceable degree.

 

[dwshade]

If that is indeed the case, piss poor recruiting job by Kelly and co.

Typical BS from you

 

[Luckylucci]

Nah, I agree with what lucci said. I'm not sure what Kelly and co could have done that they didn't already, and as a result we led for awhile.

Maybe-- and this is crazy-- different kids just have different priorities, and ND will never be able to cater to the ones who just want to coast for four years and end up with a serviceable degree.

This, they've literally been recruiting that kid in some fashion, for what, 2-3 years, not sure what else needs to be done. We've got him on campus several times and clearly have went all in. And to this point, Wiltfong just posted that he thinks he likes the bigger schools and not everyone likes a smaller, "quiet" campus.

 

[GBdomer]

I think Driskell kind of hinted that the staff really liked him early on at corner but he just kept growing and the staff never really turned up the heat again. Pretty much said ND would take him but they aren't going to lose sleep over it. I think he's gonna be a baller and would take him right now but I get it

Once he started visiting other schools other than Ohio State and ND this seemed like it was gonna happen

 

[TP81989]

This, they've literally been recruiting that kid in some fashion, for what, 2-3 years, not sure what else needs to be done. We've got him on campus several times and clearly have went all in. And to this point, Wiltfong just posted that he thinks he likes the bigger schools and not everyone likes a smaller, "quiet" campus.

Not going 4-8 would've helped.

Sometimes ND is going to lose out on a player simply because they're not on the level of some schools they're recruiting against on the field.

 

[GBdomer]

Not going 4-8 would've helped.

Sometimes ND is going to lose out on a player simply because they're not on the level of the schools they're recruiting against on the field.

With us going 4-8 and all the negative recruiting and the coaching changes we had I'll take the class we have right now and roll into the fall. Especially if we can land Simon. Need to win and sway some kids. Winning cures all

 

[dwshade]

Not going 4-8 would've helped.

Sometimes ND is going to lose out on a player simply because they're not on the level of some schools they're recruiting against on the field.

They could have gone 9-3 and still not gotten this kid.

 

[BobbyMac]

I think Driskell kind of hinted that the staff really liked him early on at corner but he just kept growing and the staff never really turned up the heat again. Pretty much said ND would take him but they aren't going to lose sleep over it. I think he's gonna be a baller and would take him right now but I get it

Once he started visiting other schools other than Ohio State and ND this seemed like it was gonna happen

Hmmm, who da thunk it?

Good thing they didn't have the same feeling with Derrik Allen.

I don't believe the staff ever turned down the heat because he was a tweener. If they were still in the market for a safety, they would still be in the market for Griffith. Maybe Griffith saw the writing on the wall with ND's projected depth chart, the fact that he doesn't have the speed ND is looking for at corner and chose to look where he could be the Derrik Allen, HS CB --> turned P5 safety.

 

[jspags10pg]

The following is from Jamie at ISD that he wrote in a freebie article. I'll take his scouting over pretty much anyone else's. They had a lot of great coverage of The Opening in free articles for anyone interested.

Here's a link to the article:
https://irishsportsdaily.com/s/2995/the-opening-day-3-scouting-notebook

I think the talk of Houston Griffith as more of a safety than a corner needs to die down. Maybe there are a few more impressive athletes at the position here, but the drop off is not very big from them to him. And he makes up for any edge by being incredibly efficient with his feet.

 

[BobbyMac]

The following is from Jamie at ISD that he wrote in a freebie article. I'll take his scouting over pretty much anyone else's. They had a lot of great coverage of The Opening in free articles for anyone interested.

Here's a link to the article:
https://irishsportsdaily.com/s/2995/the-opening-day-3-scouting-notebook

I think the talk of Houston Griffith as more of a safety than a corner needs to die down. Maybe there are a few more impressive athletes at the position here, but the drop off is not very big from them to him. And he makes up for any edge by being incredibly efficient with his feet.

You cannot let it die down when he got half his genes from a 5-11, 235lb college FB. It is a very real possibility he keeps growing like Derrik Allen did. It wouldn't surprise me if he's bumping 200lb right now. Add to that, he's not that fast and safety makes all the sense longterm.

 

[BobbyMac]

Got a gazillion CB's to Nebraska tonight.

There will be a deco if he and Christian Tutt both commit as expected by the 247 folks.

 

[Luckylucci]

This recruitment has officially become fairly comical. He's had massive swings in CB's over the last month or so. All ND, then perceived OSU, then all FSU, and now Nebraska. Hopefully he gets what he wants from team moneybags.

 

[Luckylucci]

To add on, Nebraska believes that he could be a silent commit, at the same time he was believed to be a silent to OSU. He told the Nebraska folks that one of their benefits is more people will see him on TV?

 

[KizerWilhelm]

Notre Dame losing recruiting battle to OSU or FSU is understandable, but there's no reason we should lose them to Nebraska. I honestly struggle to name a single quality in which they consistently outperform us.

The drastic and mercurial swings in leans is honestly a turn-off. A kid wildly changing his mind three times in the span of a month makes me question if he's even a fit for ND.

 

[arrowryan]

Notre Dame losing recruiting battle to OSU or FSU is understandable, but there's no reason we should lose them to Nebraska. I honestly struggle to name a single quality in which they consistently outperform us.

The drastic and mercurial swings in leans is honestly a turn-off. A kid wildly changing his mind three times in the span of a month makes me question if he's even a fit for ND.

He's not a fit for ND. When the perceived leader for a recruit changes 4-5 times, I normally don't want to be a part of that game. ND has found themselves in these situations before and it never ends in their favor. I'd rather them turn their focus on a kid that actually wants to be at ND.

Also, I might be totally wrong but it seems to me that kids like this who keep changing their top school dont seem to pan out in college. I don't have any statistical proof, but that's just what it seems like to me.

As for Nebra$ka, this makes me further convinced they have a bag man. But do whatever you have to do to stay competitive with OSU and Michigan I guess

 

[irishandy]

It seems to me that whatever school he visits he gets the CB rolling in for him for that school. We seem to forget that these are 17-18 yr. old kids.

His recruitment reminds me of Kalon Gervin's...they don't know what they want. What more can ND give that they've already shown??

I'd take this kid in a heartbeat, but if he's not worth it in the end (look at Beal's thread, not enrolled because of ACT/SAT scores), then it's time to move onto more mature kids.

 

[Luckylucci]

He's not a fit for ND. When the perceived leader for a recruit changes 4-5 times, I normally don't want to be a part of that game. ND has found themselves in these situations before and it never ends in their favor. I'd rather them turn their focus on a kid that actually wants to be at ND.

Also, I might be totally wrong but it seems to me that kids like this who keep changing their top school dont seem to pan out in college. I don't have any statistical proof, but that's just what it seems like to me.

As for Nebra$ka, this makes me further convinced they have a bag man. But do whatever you have to do to stay competitive with OSU and Michigan I guess

This screams Ole Miss to me. A school that only one time in the last six years has finished in the top 20 in recruiting, and that was 16th in 2011, is all of a sudden, looking for a top 5 class. And it just so happens its done by a shady DB and WR coach.......

 

[Irish#1]

This screams Ole Miss to me. A school that only one time in the last six years has finished in the top 20 in recruiting, and that was 16th in 2011, is all of a sudden, looking for a top 5 class. And it just so happens its done by a shady DB and WR coach.......

If they keep this up, you'll see the NCAA hounds sniffing around in 2-3 years.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

To add on, Nebraska believes that he could be a silent commit, at the same time he was believed to be a silent to OSU. He told the Nebraska folks that one of their benefits is more people will see him on TV?

Rofl

 

[BobbyMac]

I doubt money has anything to do with Griffith & Nebraska. His Dad is a multi-millionaire, he doesn't need some gift that his dad could provide without breaking a sweat.

Is there cheating going on? Yep. Is there cheating going on at 95% of the schools? Yep. But what I think you are seeing at Nebraska is a program that has put together an aggressive recruiting plan, with the right kind of recruiters for today's recruiting game, that is augmented by I feel the best fanbase as far as social media. They are prolific, interactive and something Irish fans won't understand... positive.

 

[Domina Nostra]

I doubt money has anything to do with Griffith & Nebraska. His Dad is a multi-millionaire, he doesn't need some gift that his dad could provide without breaking a sweat.

Is there cheating going on? Yep. Is there cheating going on at 95% of the schools? Yep. But what I think you are seeing at Nebraska is a program that has put together an aggressive recruiting plan, with the right kind of recruiters for today's recruiting game, that is augmented by I feel the best fanbase as far as social media. They are prolific, interactive and something Irish fans won't understand... positive.

Scott Booker. Nebraska Special Teams Coordinator.

 

[BobbyMac]

Scott Booker. Nebraska Special Teams Coordinator.

Andy Vaughn - Recruiting Coordinator
Kenny Wilhite - Director of High School Relations
Keith Williams - WR Coach
Donte Williams - CB Coach
Reggie Davis - RB Coach

The last three all SoCal guys.

 

[AKRowdy]

But the question remains.. Does he fit Bobby Diaco's build for a safety?

 

[arrowryan]

The Houston Griffith sweepstakes continues. The recent CBs have been going to FSU.

 

[beryirish]

The Houston Griffith sweepstakes continues. The recent CBs have been going to FSU.

WOW - Practically everyone now....93% FSU.

 

[Luckylucci]

WOW - Practically everyone now....93% FSU.

You really don't see this much, even with high profile recruits, this early in the process. I mean, he hasn't even taken OV's yet. I wonder how high the bidding goes when he's on campus at these schools.

 

[IrishFanForever23]

You really don't see this much, even with high profile recruits, this early in the process. I mean, he hasn't even taken OV's yet. I wonder how high the bidding goes when he's on campus at these schools.

His teammate from IMG just committed there last week, and they said they wanted to play together in college. I think it has been trending FSU for some time now.