'18 GA TE Tommy Tremble (Notre Dame Signee)

[Irishbounty28]

Hopefully he gets drafted early because I absolutely enjoyed watching him ball out. I just don’t see it with his resume. He had zero touchdowns this year and has no where to go but up by coming back another year.

 

[Irishize]

I still remember that TD pass he caught in the opener vs UL last season on a seam route. Thought that was the tip of the iceberg but the only other highlights I remember is his blocking acumen. Best of luck to him. Reminds me of when Troy Niklas left seeming one year too early. At least Niklas got drafted. I think Tremble will, too in the later rounds.

 

[TP81989]

Seems like he made the right decision.

His stock wasn't going to rise much next season with Mayer getting most of the targets at TE.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">TE Tommy Tremble is a stud. Big-time blocker and better pass-catcher than his stat line.<br><br>This year's TE draft class has a true star at the top (Pitts), but I really like some of the options (like Tremble) in the 2nd-4th range. <a href="https://t.co/9BcwTW5dVL">https://t.co/9BcwTW5dVL</a></p>— Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/1347373613876465666?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[ulukinatme]

Was hoping Tremble would stick around at least so we could still line up in some big sets and manhandle people, but I don't blame him for going. He made the right move likely, at least where it comes to the Draft. Gonna be an interesting spring offensively with so many people leaving, may or may not be a good thing given the struggles in the big games at the end.

 

[Irishize]

From Driskell & SI.com

Bryan Driskell Mod • 4 hours ago
So here's some more to the Tremble to the NFL decision from talking to sources.

Tremble was obviously frustrated with his role this season. The feeling was that he and Michael Mayer could have been a potent one-two punch in the pass game, but after the first two games in which Tremble caught 8 passes for 94 yards, Tremble caught just 11 passes for 114 yards in the final 10 games, mostly being used on quick throws and crossing routes. He was essentially a blocker in the final 10 games of the season.

According to a source close to the situation, Tremble was open to coming back next season, but after talking with the staff after the season his desire to go pro became strong. Instead of using him as a tight end that is a pass game weapon and a run game weapon, I'm told the staff started talking to him about being a wide receiver.

A different source didn't mention the wide receiver aspect, but did confirm that after talking with coaches about his role next season it became a no brainer for Tremble to either transfer or go pro. Based on the positive feedback he received from NFL contacts, the decision to go pro was the obvious choice for him.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

From Driskell & SI.com

This is why the coaching staff is a bunch of
Idiots.

 

[DCDomer]

 

[Dale]

This is why the coaching staff is a bunch of idiots.

I’d combine the source (Driskell not Irishize) with the nonsensical nature of the report and second guess the accuracy of that report.

Not to throw shade at Tremble, but without a public stat to verify, I’d say Tremble almost certainly led the team in drops. How sure are we Book didn’t prefer looking other directions versus the coaches?

 

[Irishcop]

If he leaves what is Tony Dungy going to talk about every home game?

Hahaha, so true.

 

[fightingirish26]

I’d combine the source (Driskell not Irishize) with the nonsensical nature of the report and second guess the accuracy of that report.

Not to throw shade at Tremble, but without a public stat to verify, I’d say Tremble almost certainly led the team in drops. How sure are we Book didn’t prefer looking other directions versus the coaches?

Yeah, mostly this. Big tremble fan, but his stat line being so weak is his own damn fault.

Also there is no way we wanted him at WR. One of the more ridiculous things I've ever heard.

 

[NDFAN420]

Like none of you didn't want to see Tommy Tremble lining up CBs and Safties? As a former CB that kinda makes me laugh now. I can understand both sides. If I'm Tremble and with the physical way I play, maybe I'm going early if I get some positive feedback and no commitment to being more than a blocker.
If I'm the coaching staff maybe I try to get him back by offering a less physically demanding role in his draft year. It's all moot now.

 

[ulukinatme]

I’d combine the source (Driskell not Irishize) with the nonsensical nature of the report and second guess the accuracy of that report.

Not to throw shade at Tremble, but without a public stat to verify, I’d say Tremble almost certainly led the team in drops. How sure are we Book didn’t prefer looking other directions versus the coaches?

Yeah, mostly this. Big tremble fan, but his stat line being so weak is his own damn fault.

Also there is no way we wanted him at WR. One of the more ridiculous things I've ever heard.

Geez, Driskell probably should have laid low after getting called out by the coach's kid for his comments. Why would the coaches ever move Tremble to WR when he's clearly a great fit at TE? I'm calling bullshit. It just makes sense for Tremble to go to the Draft when we're going to be breaking in almost a whole new offensive unit next year and one of the few mainstays is Mayer. Unless Tremble confirms this, just feels like Driskell throwing shade to the coaching staff...which isn't a new thing.

 

[BabyIrish]

Geez, Driskell probably should have laid low after getting called out by the coach's kid for his comments. Why would the coaches ever move Tremble to WR when he's clearly a great fit at TE? I'm calling bullshit. It just makes sense for Tremble to go to the Draft when we're going to be breaking in almost a whole new offensive unit next year and one of the few mainstays is Mayer. Unless Tremble confirms this, just feels like Driskell throwing shade to the coaching staff...which isn't a new thing.

Yeah I don’t trust Driskell and his sources at all. I only read him for his game breakdowns and that’s it. All this other stuff is nonsense and inaccurate

 

[BabyIrish]

While I’m sad to hear this, we have plenty of talent in the TE room to absorb this announcement. Next man up. Not worried at all.

 

[stpeteirish]

While I’m sad to hear this, we have plenty of talent in the TE room to absorb this announcement. Next man up. Not worried at all.

none of them can block like Tremble, and that includes Mayer.

 

[IrishLion]

From Driskell & SI.com: [garbage report]

That's gotta be bullshit lol.

You don't turn a TE into a glorified fullback, and THEN try to convince him to stay by telling him you're going to the complete opposite end of the spectrum and making him a WR. BK, Tommy and McNulty are all too smart for that.

The ONLY way that makes sense, is if Tremble said "I want to catch more passes," and the coaches told him they could plan to flex him out much more often next year.

And if that's the case, and Tremble took that as "they just want me to play WR," then he was simply looking for any excuse to declare early, and he would have done it regardless of what they told him.

 

[PANDFAN]

That's gotta be bullshit lol.

You don't turn a TE into a glorified fullback, and THEN try to convince him to stay by telling him you're going to the complete opposite end of the spectrum and making him a WR. BK, Tommy and McNulty are all too smart for that.

The ONLY way that makes sense, is if Tremble said "I want to catch more passes," and the coaches told him they could plan to flex him out much more often next year.

And if that's the case, and Tremble took that as "they just want me to play WR," then he was simply looking for any excuse to declare early, and he would have done it regardless of what they told him.

you read my mind....completely agree on EVERYTHING you said

 

[ThePiombino]

That's gotta be bullshit lol.

You don't turn a TE into a glorified fullback, and THEN try to convince him to stay by telling him you're going to the complete opposite end of the spectrum and making him a WR. BK, Tommy and McNulty are all too smart for that.

The ONLY way that makes sense, is if Tremble said "I want to catch more passes," and the coaches told him they could plan to flex him out much more often next year.

And if that's the case, and Tremble took that as "they just want me to play WR," then he was simply looking for any excuse to declare early, and he would have done it regardless of what they told him.

100% this

 

[BabyIrish]

My guess is that with a new offensive line next year we may go more open on offense and go less power. Which means less two te sets. Which if it means more speed and athleticism on the field with wr’s I’m good with that.

And there’s no reason our current te’s can’t learn to block like tremble did.

 

[irishandy]

Gimme more Michael Mayer.

Good luck Tommy!

 

[IrishLax]

From Driskell & SI.com

The only part of that which is true is the first paragraph. He was hungry to make plays in the passing game but Rees ultimately went away from schemes that would feature him.

Everything else is either a total fabrication or information from a bad source. They did not propose moving him to WR. They had an open ended conversation about his role and how he could catch more passes, and one thing they talked about was him playing more detached (e.g. in the slot) like he did in 2019 to give him more opportunities to be featured in the passing game. This is because everyone there knew/knows that Mayer is going to be the top dog as the TE so they weren't going to bullshit him about taking reps from Mayer.

The other truth is that he's gotten some really good feedback... which time will tell if it's accurate or not... based on his pass catching tape from last year + blocking tape from this year. While fewer NFL teams run an H-Back or FB than they used to, some expect Tremble to get drafted in the middle rounds based on his unique skillset... and it was unlikely that he would improve that projection with another year.

 

[IrishLax]

My guess is that with a new offensive line next year we may go more open on offense and go less power. Which means less two te sets. Which if it means more speed and athleticism on the field with wr’s I’m good with that.

And there’s no reason our current te’s can’t learn to block like tremble did.

Everything I've heard is that -- regardless of whether it's Buchner or Coan or combination (and most people think the Day 1 starter will be Coan unless they get him in Spring camp and he turns into a pumpkin) -- they are going to run a wide open, aggressive passing attack offense in 2021 relative to what we saw in 2020. And the main reason they're going to do this is because the OL is going to be categorically worse than it was in 2020 for at least the start of the season. Once Banks decided to go pro, it was an inevitability that they weren't going to be able to run the same kind of "heavy" offense as last year. Also, they expect to be able to attack the middle of the field with Coan like they haven't recently, and Coan can't be featured in the run game the same as Book.

So they are going to feature Austin + Mayer + whichever other WRs step up, and they're going to chuck all over the yard. They're going to use Kyren Williams in the passing game a ton as well. I think it'll look more like a Mike Leach offense than anything we've seen since Kelly came to town.

 

[tussin]

Everything I've heard is that -- regardless of whether it's Buchner or Coan or combination (and most people think the Day 1 starter will be Coan unless they get him in Spring camp and he turns into a pumpkin) -- they are going to run a wide open, aggressive passing attack offense in 2021 relative to what we saw in 2020. And the main reason they're going to do this is because the OL is going to be categorically worse than it was in 2020 for at least the start of the season. Once Banks decided to go pro, it was an inevitability that they weren't going to be able to run the same kind of "heavy" offense as last year. Also, they expect to be able to attack the middle of the field with Coan like they haven't recently, and Coan can't be featured in the run game the same as Book.

So they are going to feature Austin + Mayer + whichever other WRs step up, and they're going to chuck all over the yard. They're going to use Kyren Williams in the passing game a ton as well. I think it'll look more like a Mike Leach offense than anything we've seen since Kelly came to town.

Do you have an in with the staff? As someone who always has the best intel at this site, how do you "hear" things?

 

[zelezo vlk]

Do you have an in with the staff? As someone who always has the best intel at this site, how do you "hear" things?

Lax is Loy

 

[FWIrish4]

Do you have an in with the staff? As someone who always has the best intel at this site, how do you "hear" things?

Well if he told you, then he’d have to kill you.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Everything I've heard is that -- regardless of whether it's Buchner or Coan or combination (and most people think the Day 1 starter will be Coan unless they get him in Spring camp and he turns into a pumpkin) -- they are going to run a wide open, aggressive passing attack offense in 2021 relative to what we saw in 2020. And the main reason they're going to do this is because the OL is going to be categorically worse than it was in 2020 for at least the start of the season. Once Banks decided to go pro, it was an inevitability that they weren't going to be able to run the same kind of "heavy" offense as last year. Also, they expect to be able to attack the middle of the field with Coan like they haven't recently, and Coan can't be featured in the run game the same as Book.

So they are going to feature Austin + Mayer + whichever other WRs step up, and they're going to chuck all over the yard. They're going to use Kyren Williams in the passing game a ton as well. I think it'll look more like a Mike Leach offense than anything we've seen since Kelly came to town.

This sounds correct and makes sense. Also I would like to add the George Takacs has picked up his play and seems like he is going to be a very good #2 TE in the upcoming years.


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[ulukinatme]

I think we'll see a lot more athleticism at WR next year then if we're going heavy passing attack. McKinley worked because he was a phenomenal blocker on the edge, but it makes sense...if what LAX is saying is true, and we certainly are reloading on the OL, we'll want a passing attack where we get the ball out quick to offset the growing pains. That means quicker, athletic receivers. Spring will be interesting to see who steps up at all offensive positions.

 

[ulukinatme]

That's gotta be bullshit lol.

You don't turn a TE into a glorified fullback, and THEN try to convince him to stay by telling him you're going to the complete opposite end of the spectrum and making him a WR. BK, Tommy and McNulty are all too smart for that.

The ONLY way that makes sense, is if Tremble said "I want to catch more passes," and the coaches told him they could plan to flex him out much more often next year.

And if that's the case, and Tremble took that as "they just want me to play WR," then he was simply looking for any excuse to declare early, and he would have done it regardless of what they told him.

Yeah, this makes way more sense. They could have offered to flex him out like they did with Eifert, but a move to WR? That's a stretch, and if that's what he's reporting it just feels like fabrication. It's like having Peyton Manning at QB and telling him we're moving you to RB. The guy is a TE, or a FB at worst. You can flex him out, but he belongs with the big guys opening holes and occasionally hitting seam and corner routes.

 

[BabyIrish]

Everything I've heard is that -- regardless of whether it's Buchner or Coan or combination (and most people think the Day 1 starter will be Coan unless they get him in Spring camp and he turns into a pumpkin) -- they are going to run a wide open, aggressive passing attack offense in 2021 relative to what we saw in 2020. And the main reason they're going to do this is because the OL is going to be categorically worse than it was in 2020 for at least the start of the season. Once Banks decided to go pro, it was an inevitability that they weren't going to be able to run the same kind of "heavy" offense as last year. Also, they expect to be able to attack the middle of the field with Coan like they haven't recently, and Coan can't be featured in the run game the same as Book.

So they are going to feature Austin + Mayer + whichever other WRs step up, and they're going to chuck all over the yard. They're going to use Kyren Williams in the passing game a ton as well. I think it'll look more like a Mike Leach offense than anything we've seen since Kelly came to town.

Awesome to hear and it makes sense to go that route

 

[Irish2155]

Best of luck to him. He’d be a good backfill for Jack Doyle next year opening holes for Mack and Taylor.