'17 TN LB Jacob Phillips (LSU Verbal)

NDShark · Oct 12, 2016

Announces at 3:30 I believe. All CBs have gone to A&M or Oklahoma recently. Any chance here?

Rizzophil · Oct 12, 2016

No chance

Wingman Ray · Oct 12, 2016

NDShark said:
Announces at 3:30 I believe. All CBs have gone to A&M or Oklahoma recently. Any chance here?

If you were a stud defense recruit, would you come to ND now?

irish4ever · Oct 12, 2016

Wingman Ray said:
If you were a stud defense recruit, would you come to ND now?

Now that BVG is gone and appears to be a chance of early playing time, yes, I'd definitely give strong consideration to it. Especially with getting a great education, paid for.

dwshade · Oct 12, 2016

Wingman Ray said:
If you were a stud defense recruit, would you come to ND now?

Absolutely. Playing time. Chance to compete immediately. That's what kids are looking for.

BobbyMac · Oct 12, 2016

If he chooses ATM, they are going to have a crazy LB haul. They already have Marchiol and it sounds like Hines is a wrap. Add Phillips and that's filthy.

With the CB's evenly split tween OU and ATM, I'll side with Fonger's OU pick. I think it's above in this thread, they only have Levi Draper on board right now in Tier 1 LB recruits.

ND has a full house and they're good ones. If he was a real WDE, I'd have had a sad.

Luckylucci · Oct 12, 2016

dwshade said:
Absolutely. Playing time. Chance to compete immediately. That's what kids are looking for.

To be fair, some kids do care about other things as well. I mean, its great to act like this is an obvious choice for ND, as well all love the football program. However, the academics are difficult, or at least more difficult than the other schools he's deciding from. His parents have expressed concern with that. There is also social life, which I'm sure some schools do better than ND. So to act as if immediate playing time is the only criteria kids look at, seems quite naïve. There are plenty of reason kids would come to ND and plenty why they wouldn't.

Luckylucci · Oct 12, 2016

NDCrusader said:
If he chooses ATM, they are going to have a crazy LB haul. They already have Marchiol and it sounds like Hines is a wrap. Add Phillips and that's filthy.

With the CB's evenly split tween OU and ATM, I'll side with Fonger's OU pick. I think it's above in this thread, they only have Levi Draper on board right now in Tier 1 LB recruits.

ND has a full house and they're good ones. If he was a real WDE, I'd have had a sad.

They are good ones, but not in his category, IMO. I like Werner and Adams, but Phillips is a notch above. He's pretty close to the "elite" category. So, I have a sad that we couldn't close this. If we were 6-0 right now, I'd bet we have a much better chance. Too much turmoil right now for some of these kids, not all, but certainly some.

Sherm Sticky · Oct 12, 2016

Luckylucci said:
They are good ones, but not in his category, IMO. I like Werner and Adams, but Phillips is a notch above. He's pretty close to the "elite" category. So, I have a sad that we couldn't close this.

Agree.

ND Fan Vancouver · Oct 12, 2016

My opinion, Adams is elite. He can fill, hits hard and takes down carriers and has great sideline to sideline speed, sheds blocks well and all against tough competition.

Luckylucci · Oct 12, 2016

ND Fan Vancouver said:
My opinion, Adams is elite. He can fill, hits hard and takes down carriers and has great sideline to sideline speed, sheds blocks well and all against tough competition.

I wouldn't categorize his speed at "great" or even close to that. He has a lot of good qualities but I'm not going to expect something that he isn't. He's not a speed LB. He's a box player.

NDShark · Oct 12, 2016

Oklahoma

BobbyMac · Oct 12, 2016

Luckylucci said:
I wouldn't categorize his speed at "great" or even close to that. He has a lot of good qualities but I'm not going to expect something that he isn't. He's not a speed LB. He's a box player.

*Edited*

I'm not expecting Kuechly or Urlacher but I see a pre injury Jarrett Grace as the floor. Speed is the cherry on an MLB's sundae. Maybe the least important factor to be honest.

I just hope Adams is good enough to push Bauer outside when it's time for both to play.

zelezo vlk · Oct 12, 2016

NDCrusader said:
I'm expecting Kuechly or Urlacher but I see a pre injury Jarrett Grace as the floor. Speed is the cherry on an MLB's sundae. Maybe the least important factor to be honest.

I just hope Adams is good enough to push Bauer outside when it's time for both to play.

Damn, why not push the kid and go for greatness aka Butkus?

BobbyMac · Oct 12, 2016

zelezo vlk said:
Damn, why not push the kid and go for greatness aka Butkus?

Because Adam's of this world.

As the saying goes, they didn't break the mold when they made Butkus, they still have it... on the planet he came from.

Luckylucci · Oct 12, 2016

NDCrusader said:
I'm expecting Kuechly or Urlacher but I see a pre injury Jarrett Grace as the floor. Speed is the cherry on an MLB's sundae. Maybe the least important factor to be honest.
I just hope Adams is good enough to push Bauer outside when it's time for both to play.

Agree on the floor, don't see that upside. Speed might be the cherry on top of a MLB's sundae, but its a major trait that sets a part, the two you referenced above and a majority of MLB's. Also, both those players have at least 2 maybe 3 inches on Adams.

My point wasn't to say that speed is an extremely important factor for MLB's, just to point out that I don't believe Adams has "great" speed.

bluengold4732 · Oct 12, 2016

Luckylucci said:
Agree on the floor, don't see that upside. Speed might be the cherry on top of a MLB's sundae, but its a major trait that sets a part, the two you referenced above and a majority of MLB's. Also, both those players have at least 2 maybe 3 inches on Adams.

My point wasn't to say that speed is an extremely important factor for MLB's, just to point out that I don't believe Adams has "great" speed.

Agree! This linebacker class is Fox, Spond, and Calabrese but shorter

BobbyMac · Oct 12, 2016

NDCrusader said:
*Edited*

I'm not expecting Kuechly or Urlacher but I see a pre injury Jarrett Grace as the floor. Speed is the cherry on an MLB's sundae. Maybe the least important factor to be honest.

I just hope Adams is good enough to push Bauer outside when it's time for both to play.

Luckylucci said:
Agree on the floor, don't see that upside. Speed might be the cherry on top of a MLB's sundae, but its a major trait that sets a part, the two you referenced above and a majority of MLB's. Also, both those players have at least 2 maybe 3 inches on Adams.

My point wasn't to say that speed is an extremely important factor for MLB's, just to point out that I don't believe Adams has "great" speed.

Oops. Left out a pretty important word above. lol

I left out the "not". My bad. Adams is obviously not as fast as those two HOFers. I also was just talking about his speed, not physical size. Those guys are generational talents that you can compare to each other and a handful of guys to EVER play the game.

If Adams can move sideline to sideline as well as pre-injury Grace on Saturdays, he'll be a very good player. His highlights check the other boxes.

zelezo vlk · Oct 12, 2016

Well now my comment makes no sense. I'd be okay with pre-injury Grace.

Crazy Balki · Oct 12, 2016

Wingman Ray said:
If you were a stud defense recruit, would you come to ND now?

Considering he picked Oklahoma, I fail to see the logic behind this. Their defense has been as bad or worse.

BobbyMac · Oct 12, 2016

bluengold4732 said:
Agree! This linebacker class is Fox, Spond, and Calabrese but shorter

There is no one in that class that's the athlete Pete Werner is.

zelezo vlk · Oct 12, 2016

NDCrusader said:
There is no one in that class that's the athlete Pete Werner is.

Yeah, but can any of them play NG like Calabrese?

EddytoNow · Oct 12, 2016

Wingman Ray said:
If you were a stud defense recruit, would you come to ND now?

Not a chance. I might wait to see who the defensive coordinator is going forward, but I wouldn't commit not knowing the defensive coordinator or wondering if Brian Kelly was leaving or staying.

DomeX2 eNVy · Oct 12, 2016

I was really hoping we'd get Phillips early on (and still wish he would have), but after watching Drew White play, and seeing our other two's films I am happy with this group and wouldn't trade it. I hope the kid does well at OU.

Sherm Sticky · Oct 12, 2016

NDCrusader said:
There is no one in that class that's the athlete Pete Werner is.

I really like Warner. He will probably end up at Sam. But I would love to see him as an edge Will player.

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BobbyMac · Oct 12, 2016

Sherm Sticky said:
I really like Warner. He will probably end up at Sam. But I would love to see him as an edge Will player.

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Well you wish for that and I'll hope he never tops 222 and becomes John Lynch Jr. at SS.

ResLife Hero · Jan 26, 2017

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LSU?src=hash">#LSU</a> flips Jacob Phillips from Oklahoma. Tigers nab the No. 1 middle LB in the country. <a href="https://twitter.com/Geaux247">@Geaux247</a> <a href="https://t.co/3QdWzmDl2D">https://t.co/3QdWzmDl2D</a> <a href="https://t.co/4KTWxF8rW4">pic.twitter.com/4KTWxF8rW4</a></p>— Shea Dixon (@Sheadixon) <a href="https://twitter.com/Sheadixon/status/824686563464515585">January 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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BobbyMac · Jan 26, 2017

Does this mean ND has to turn in it's silver and except the bronze?

OCIrish · Jan 26, 2017

Wow.......Did not expect that

Southside Sully · Jan 26, 2017

Gonna assume that Eddie O was all over this.. Guy is an elite recruiter who it seems like his players love.. Wouldn't that be nice to have?

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