'16 CA QB Ian Book (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

[Sherm Sticky]

Yeah, there was that kid named Joe who was third or fourth string. Small, no arm. Didn't he make an NFL team? lol

Pst...as a third rounder. what a loser...third rounder.

 

[Irish YJ]

Pst...as a third rounder. what a loser...third rounder.

then took 10ish years to get a starting gig after returning kicks..

 

[DONTH8]

Great article from the Bowling Green Daily News with lots of direct quotes from Sanford talking about what he saw in Book as a recruit etc etc.
https://www.bgdailynews.com/sports/wku/sanford-following-qb-book-s-success-at-notre-dame/article_8248a070-fc77-5053-a98e-5cbe6c9d26eb.html

Sanford staying close to Wimbush? Odds that Wimbush heads to WKU for his final year of elgibility?

 

[Irish YJ]

Sanford staying close to Wimbush? Odds that Wimbush heads to WKU for his final year of elgibility?

I'd love for him to end up some where he can be himself and ball out. Not the MZ path.

 

[Junkhead]

The NFL over-emphasizes the 6-4 225lb QB. Either way, Book's recruiting ranking was possibly lower than it could be because of lack of size. He probably won't be an NFL hall of famer (few are), but at this point, he is by far the best QB on the team.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

Let’s put it this way book is this accurate with guys playing WR that we didn’t even think had any chance to make an NFL team going into the season. I think Boykin is a futur NFL Guy now. But book still doesn’t have that dynamic WR like a filler to throw too. Also anyone notice no body is really dropping passes the last few games?

 

[Riddickulous]

He delivered big time in the second half. Beautiful TD throw.

 

[Irish YJ]

81%. That is all

 

[calvegas04]

glad he had this game today, he will learn a lot in the film room I think

 

[Luckylucci]

81%. That is all

No it’s really not. And don’t take this the wrong way but that is not how you’d evaluate the game. The coaches are certainly not looking at that thinking he played a good game. Hence the post game comments, by even book himself. There was A LOT left out there against a absolutely terrible defense.

 

[T-Boone]

It was worth going through that tough first half for the confidence he will get out of the second half it if he needed any more.

 

[Irish YJ]

glad he had this game today, he will learn a lot in the film room I think

He will. I'm not being sarcastic when I say this. Seriously.

He was 81%, and got better on the long ball. I'd bet he picks the 19% a part in films and does better in two weeks. I also think Long will also learn to play better against Narduzzi, and also learn to stop forcing too many plays that have not historically worked, or are not the strength of his current QB.

 

[Luckylucci]

He will. I'm not being sarcastic when I say this. Seriously.

He was 81%, and got better on the long ball. I'd bet he picks the 19% a part in films and does better in two weeks. I also think Long will also learn to play better against Narduzzi, and also learn to stop forcing too many plays that have not historically worked, or are not the strength of his current QB.

But honestly what’s being missed isn’t the 19%. It’s the missed reads, moving into pressure, etc. he wasn’t 81% good today and it wasn’t the 19% that hurt us. It was taking sacks or moving into pressure when not needed. Running when his hot routes were open.

And the biggest one one, which is very very bizarre, he had a habit of staring down the play side opposite of the blitz (CB/S). You are taught to do the opposite. Very weird.

 

[Irish YJ]

But honestly what’s being missed isn’t the 19%. It’s the missed reads, moving into pressure, etc. he wasn’t 81% good today and it wasn’t the 19% that hurt us. It was taking sacks or moving into pressure when not needed. Running when his hot routes were open.

And the biggest one one, which is very very bizarre, he had a habit of staring down the play side opposite of the blitz (CB/S). You are taught to do the opposite. Very weird.

Not saying he didn't do some of that. I do think you are diminishing the 81%. I also think you are minimizing the OL shit show that he had to play with.

You should also be all over our RBs for sucking and averaging a paltry amount (if the OL didn't suck). Truth is, Narduzzi called a great game. Coverage was exceptional (as praised all night by the announcers). And the exotic, and standard blitzes he threw at us F'd our OL up beyond belief.

Sure, Book missed some stuff, but you're one of the few not pounding the OL or playcalling, or giving Narduzzi credit for calling a great coverage and blitz game.

Book will learn from his failings, but I think the OL, and Long, will learn as much or more.

 

[ickythump1225]

Book missed some things that had nothing to do with the 19%. He will learn from this.

 

[Luckylucci]

Not saying he didn't do some of that. I do think you are diminishing the 81%. I also think you are minimizing the OL shit show that he had to play with.

You should also be all over our RBs for sucking and averaging a paltry amount (if the OL didn't suck). Truth is, Narduzzi called a great game. Coverage was exceptional (as praised all night by the announcers). And the exotic, and standard blitzes he threw at us F'd our OL up beyond belief.

Sure, Book missed some stuff, but you're one of the few not pounding the OL or playcalling, or giving Narduzzi credit for calling a great coverage and blitz game.

Book will learn from his failings, but I think the OL, and Long, will learn as much or more.

Because I understand what’s going on. When the defense overloads a blitz, brings a CB off the edge , etc. there are plays to be made. It’s not always the OL’s fault when they are outmanned. Sorry but it’s not that difficult to get. Unless you can’t get off the Book does no wrong train. If we listed reasons for today it’s certainly Book at 1. ST’s at 2. OL at 3.

There is always a game within a game that most are missing here. Book completely missed his reads for 3 qtrs. Of football. Even he knows that

 

[Irish YJ]

Because I understand what’s going on. When the defense overloads a blitz, brings a CB off the edge , etc. there are plays to be made. It’s not always the OL’s fault when they are outmanned. Sorry but it’s not that difficult to get. Unless you can’t get off the Book does no wrong train. If we listed reasons for today it’s certainly Book at 1. ST’s at 2. OL at 3.

There is always a game within a game that most are missing here. Book completely missed his reads for 3 qtrs. Of football. Even he knows that

I understand how to combat defenses. I also know it's not always a QBs fault when the O stutters. Especially when he's 80+%. The OL was the reason we could not run. They were reason Book rarely got more than 2 secs. I'd say OL was 1, 2 STs, and then a third place tie with book and play calling.

This isn't pro football. Book is just in his 4th game. You have to play call to his strengths.

Honest question, how many times would you put O failures on a QB that is 80+%? Give me a game?

But I'd also say, reasons we won.... 1. book, 2. 2nd half D, 3. WRs

Book did plenty of bad, but not near the OL and others.

 

[Luckylucci]

Sorry man, when every comment you make is 80% comp pct. it means your missing it. He had a bad game. EVERYONE realizes that. Coaches, Book, everyone. Gotta get off this he does no wrong train. It’s not reality.

If you could re-watch the game with no bias, you’d see it. It was really fucking bad.

 

[Luckylucci]

I would say this, the OL was actually worse in the second half than the first. And he persevered through that. He’s my QB, he’ll bijnce back.

 

[Irish YJ]

Sorry man, when every comment you make is 80% comp pct. it means your missing it. He had a bad game. EVERYONE realizes that. Coaches, Book, everyone. Gotta get off this he does no wrong train. It’s not reality.

If you could re-watch the game with no bias, you’d see it. It was really fucking bad.

I've said he did plenty of bad, was not perfect, etc. etc. in most of my posts. I also don't ignore the obvious.

he can definitely improve, and i think he will. lots of room. but i'm not going to hang something on him when he's 80+%, other areas of the team flat out sucked, and he was also the reason we won.

 

[Luckylucci]

Saying he wasn’t perfect isn’t what happened. He was downright bad today. I believe in the kid but we have to be realistic about what just happened. This is exactly what we crucified Wimbush for. Bad reads, not it seeing the field, bailing too early.

 

[Irish YJ]

Saying he wasn’t perfect isn’t what happened. He was downright bad today. I believe in the kid but we have to be realistic about what just happened. This is exactly what we crucified Wimbush for. Bad reads, not it seeing the field, bailing too early.

This is my whole issue.
He was mediocre at worst. He had one bad INT, and one tipped (DL hit his arm). And he was 80+%.... He's the only reason we moved the ball at all. The announcers constantly talked about the great Pitt coverage. Talked about the great Pitt blitzing and OL not picking things up. Talked about our RB being ineffective.

They did not constantly say Book sucked. They said "he's been asked to hold the ball longer" a few times, and at the same time, saying "he's not getting the time" he normally has, while complimenting Narduzzi's D.

I'm no pro at film, but here's what I ask.... Give me examples of other QBs that were 80+%, tossed the game winning TD, got blitzed all day, went against great coverage, AND....
Is still the biggest offensive disappointment of the day

 

[IrishLax]

He had a QBR of 56 against a shitty defense. If you’re an apologist for that performance, you don’t know football.

He did play a good 4th quarter, but the first 3 were awful and he would tell you that himself.

 

[Luckylucci]

He had a QBR of 56 against a shitty defense. If you’re an apologist for that performance, you don’t know football.

He did play a good 4th quarter, but the first 3 were awful and he would tell you that himself.

Thank you. And he did post game.

 

[Irish#1]

Sorry man, when every comment you make is 80% comp pct. it means your missing it. He had a bad game. EVERYONE realizes that. Coaches, Book, everyone. Gotta get off this he does no wrong train. It’s not reality.

If you could re-watch the game with no bias, you’d see it. It was really fucking bad.

He wasn't fucking bad. His performance lacked in the first half. He missed some reads, but Pitt did a great job of disguising a lot of the blitzes and bringing guys late. There were at least two times the backs missed blocks on blitzes. He improved in the second half because Long started calling better plays to get guys open quicker. Overall I'd grade Book at C+ for the game.

 

[BobbyMac]

It was probably the worst 80% / 30+ attempt game in history.

I was thinking if they lost do you throw Phil out there and give him the team and get ready for the 2020 - 2021 National Championship runs.

 

[Irish YJ]

He had a QBR of 56 against a shitty defense. If you’re an apologist for that performance, you don’t know football.

He did play a good 4th quarter, but the first 3 were awful and he would tell you that himself.

I'll leave it at this and drop it.
-When asked to do the things we know he does well (short and intermediate wide, and crossing), he was nearly 100. And those things make it easier on the OL.
-When asked to do things he hasn't done well, he didn't, and was under pressure doing it. And those things challenge the OL.
-He had no running game to make things more balanced and easier for him. And that's on the OL.
-Subtract half the sacks (that were not his fault), and the INT that was due to him getting hit in the arm, and he has a great QBR. Those are on the OL.
-Everyone said constantly that the coverage was great, the blitzes were killer. They did not constantly say Book sucked.
-He improved on the deep ball from last week's failures, and won the game with one.

Not a great game, but he was not the biggest issue tonight at all. Call plays that make him successful, and things work out.

 

[Luckylucci]

Sorry that’s just not reality. Love ya buddy, all ND Fans here but not even close. Completing passes but the wrong passes doesn’t make it a good game. Gotta get off that comp pct.

There is entire game above that, that you’re clearly missing. Like every other route being run. This is sounding very bizarre.

 

[Irish YJ]

Sorry that’s just not reality. Love ya buddy, all ND Fans here but not even close. Completing passes but the wrong passes doesn’t make it a good game. Gotta get off that comp pct.

There is entire game above that, that you’re clearly missing. Like every other route being run. This is sounding very bizarre.

Love ya too. I just wish you'd pick the above apart one by one instead of broad brushing.

I'll love ya tomorrow to. It's OK to bang heads when we're 7-0.

I owe ya a bottle for my stubborn petulance. PM me your address and I'll send ya one

 

[ickythump1225]

Sorry that’s just not reality. Love ya buddy, all ND Fans here but not even close. Completing passes but the wrong passes doesn’t make it a good game. Gotta get off that comp pct.

There is entire game above that, that you’re clearly missing. Like every other route being run. This is sounding very bizarre.

Yeah Sam Bradford set the completion% record in 2016 but trust me, he was not a world beater that year.