'15 NV TE Aliz'e Mack (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

Irish#1 · Jan 19, 2015

dad4aa said:
So, about that Alize guy...should be a hell of a TE.

Huh, what? This isn't the "Golson/Koyack/Eifert" thread? I must be lost. Could someone give me directions to that post?

Domina Nostra · Jan 19, 2015

Irish#1 said:
Huh, what? This isn't the "Golson/Koyack/Eifert" thread? I must be lost. Could someone give me directions to that post?

TRANSITION...

The kid really seems like a Tyler Eifert clone: a super-jumbo receiver who is intent to do his share of the dirty work.

What bodes well is that he picked a team specifically because they plan on training him to be a full-service TE. In hoops terms, its like a 6'10" kid that can shoot and dribble, but wants to learn how to work the paint!

NCND · Jan 19, 2015

Looks like a special player. Amazing that ND is in this position after the bad ending of the regular season.

yankeeND · Jan 19, 2015

A little late to the party but thrilled with the news! So glad this kid decided to flip and give Mora a taste of his own medicine! Great get with great things in Jone's future!

ThePiombino · Jan 19, 2015

yankeeND said:
A little late to the party but thrilled with the news! So glad this kid decided to flip and give Mora a taste of his own medicine! Great get with great things in Jone's future!

Until Mora is left with his dick in his hand and takes a hit on the depth chart due to us flipping an impact player, he will not have tasted his own medicine. This clown is just gonna fill the spot with Clark in all likelihood. It IS nice to flip a kid from UCLA, don't get me wrong. I just don't think this makes us even quite yet. A few more player of Jones' caliber and we can call it a day

yankeeND · Jan 19, 2015

ThePiombino said:
Until Mora is left with his dick in his hand and takes a hit on the depth chart due to us flipping an impact player, he will not have tasted his own medicine. This clown is just gonna fill the spot with Clark in all likelihood. It IS nice to flip a kid from UCLA, don't get me wrong. I just don't think this makes us even quite yet. A few more player of Jones' caliber and we can call it a day

Oh no doubt brother, but it's a good start!

phork · Jan 19, 2015

TIFWIW, Clark says there is no leader between UM and UCLA right now.

Ironman8 · Jan 19, 2015

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>I just want to thank everybody who supports and believes in me! You guys don't know how much I appreciate that! I won't disappoint <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Irish?src=hash">#Irish</a></p>— Alize K. Jones (@AlizeJones8) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlizeJones8/status/557376729552273408">January 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Crazy Balki · Jan 19, 2015

dad4aa said:
So, about that Alize guy...should be a hell of a TE.

How dare you stay on topic! Don't you know what site this is!?

PANDFAN · Jan 20, 2015

"Jones is known as versatile tight end and a pass-catching threat. During Army week, he struggled cleanly catching the ball and he seemed to lose focus at times. He definitely brings a lot of athleticism to the table, but after seeing some of his struggles against like competition, it was apparent a move needed to be made in the rankings." -- Jason Howell, Mid-South Recruiting Analyst

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Sherm Sticky · Jan 20, 2015

PANDFAN said:
"Jones is known as versatile tight end and a pass-catching threat. During Army week, he struggled cleanly catching the ball and he seemed to lose focus at times. He definitely brings a lot of athleticism to the table, but after seeing some of his struggles against like competition, it was apparent a move needed to be made in the rankings." -- Jason Howell, Mid-South Recruiting Analyst

NEW RANK PREV. RANK DIFFERENCE
133 70 -63

Which site is this?

PANDFAN · Jan 20, 2015

Sherm Sticky said:
Which site is this?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The Rise & Fall ‹ The biggest moves in our final 2015 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rivals250?src=hash">#Rivals250</a> Pres. By <a href="https://twitter.com/UnderArmour">@UnderArmour</a>? <a href="http://t.co/mo9w8y3txI">http://t.co/mo9w8y3txI</a> Ranks <a href="http://t.co/rm72opNNyK">http://t.co/rm72opNNyK</a></p>— Mike Farrell (@rivalsmike) <a href="https://twitter.com/rivalsmike/status/557584370689916928">January 20, 2015</a></blockquote>
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IrishLax · Jan 20, 2015

I guess 64/TD against (at the time) #1 Bosco, 95/TD against #13 Bingham, and 163/2TD against #17 Centennial is just terrible competition. But an All-Star game where he was hurt is a perfect barometer of how he projects at the next level.

Effin Rivals, man.... lol

Ironman8 · Jan 20, 2015

Rivals is the worst ranking site of the big 4 IMO.

Luckylucci · Jan 20, 2015

Ironman8 said:
Rivals is the worst ranking site of the big 4 IMO.

I don't follow ESPN's anymore so I can't compare but their (rivals) justifications for dropping players solely based on a AA game is crazy. Their rationale for dropping Wimbush is accuracy. He just put together an entire season against decent competition where he almost set the national record for comp pct. yet he's deemed not accurate after 1 week of practice and game.

Bogtrotter07 · Jan 20, 2015

It all plays to our benefit.

koonja · Jan 20, 2015

What is alize injured with?

Sherm Sticky · Jan 20, 2015

Yeah that's ridic making huge updates to rankings solely on all-star games.

Kaneyoufeelit · Jan 20, 2015

Does everyone feel the same about Coney's ranking jump from unranked to 118 based on the All Star game??? :wave:

Bogtrotter07 · Jan 20, 2015

Kaneyoufeelit said:
Does everyone feel the same about Coney's ranking jump from unranked to 118 based on the All Star game???

It all plays to our benefit.

Nick Setta · Jan 20, 2015

He's better than Chris Clark and Rivals is just being dumb.

GoldenDomer · Jan 20, 2015

Ratings are directly correlated to talent, duh.

Ironman8 · Jan 20, 2015

Kaneyoufeelit said:
Does everyone feel the same about Coney's ranking jump from unranked to 118 based on the All Star game???

They said it was Senior year and the All-star, but I hear what you are saying. It's a good point.

I think it should be 90% based on seasons, the rest games and combines. It's nice info to have an it keeps recruiting relevant, but it's on the field and in pads where recruits should really be evaluated IMO. If Coney moved up mostly because of the UA game, that's just silly.

koonja · Jan 20, 2015

I think it depends on position. I feel like the best ones to evaluate from all star camps is probably DL, RBs, DBs, then WRs.

Irishman77 · Jan 20, 2015

Qbs looked bad in general at the AA due to horrendous OL play.

GoIrish41 · Jan 20, 2015

Sherm Sticky said:
Yeah that's ridic making huge updates to rankings solely on all-star games.

Maybe he just had a bad week. The film i saw on him made him as much a must-have this year than just about any player we got. When he reports for spring practice, he'll likely never think about where he was ranked coming out of HS again.

Luckylucci · Jan 20, 2015

Kaneyoufeelit said:
Does everyone feel the same about Coney's ranking jump from unranked to 118 based on the All Star game???

Fair question and yes I do think that was a little over the top to see that big of a jump. However, I think they're slightly different scenarios as I think Coney was just criminally under ranked going into the event. He should have been top 250 player this entire time. Very apparent that he was as good as the other LB's at the event and if so he needed to be bump quite a bit.

Kaneyoufeelit · Jan 20, 2015

Ironman8 said:
They said it was Senior year and the All-star, but I hear what you are saying. It's a good point.

I think it should be 90% based on seasons, the rest games and combines. It's nice info to have an it keeps recruiting relevant, but it's on the field and in pads where recruits should really be evaluated IMO. If Coney moved up mostly because of the UA game, that's just silly.

Yeah I was saying that mostly tongue and cheek but thanks for pointing out that they did talk about his senior year. I had missed that

Sherm Sticky · Jan 20, 2015

Kaneyoufeelit said:
Does everyone feel the same about Coney's ranking jump from unranked to 118 based on the All Star game???

If they based it solely on the UA practice and performance, then Yes a slight bump into the top 250 would have been fine. But, a huge bump is just silly.

IrishLax · Jan 20, 2015

Here's my general thoughts...

1) Camps should be able to HELP you rise up the rankings if analysts see something they like.
2) Camps should not cause you to fall relative to your tape unless:
-You play bad competition
-Your listed measureables (height/weight/speed) are inaccurate
-You show a tangible fault... like bad hands... that won't show up on highlights because you won't leave in your drops.

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