'13 FL RB Greg Bryant (R.I.P.)

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I'm not a top end speed subscriber. With his vision and acceleration he can get the job done for sure. He is a beast
 
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Zwidmanio said:
Or Riddick. He's done quite well without "elite" speed. I'd gladly take another runner in his mold.
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I agree with you. I was trying to say that right now GA3 has nothing but speed and it hasn't gotten him anywhere
 
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I agree with you. I was trying to say that right now GA3 has nothing but speed and it hasn't gotten him anywhere
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The thing that frustrates me with fans here is that if a kid doesn't become a stud in his 1st year at a position they peg him a "bust". GAIII is competing for PT with 2 seniors in his 1st year playing RB at the college level... I'd wait till next year to call him a bust.

But I'd like to get this kid.... He and Mahone can play thunder to Atkinson and Carlisle's lightning....
 
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arrowryan said:
I agree with you. I was trying to say that right now GA3 has nothing but speed and it hasn't gotten him anywhere
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He's a true sophomore that contributes to our team. He returns kicks and gets snaps at RB. The dude has two seniors in front him, what did you expect to get from him?
 
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PerthDomer said:
The thing that frustrates me with fans here is that if a kid doesn't become a stud in his 1st year at a position they peg him a "bust". GAIII is competing for PT with 2 seniors in his 1st year playing RB at the college level... I'd wait till next year to call him a bust.

But I'd like to get this kid.... He and Mahone can play thunder to Atkinson and Carlisle's lightning....
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Agreed, but would take it further; I would never call him a bust. Man, I am glad Kelly is coach, because I don't think he would call him a bust either.
 
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Yea, wrong words, I mean I'd wait until next year to judge him as a running back. You can tell he's still learning the position. Hell, so is Cierre.
 
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He's starting kick returner and adds another element to our offense. Not a bust. Also the kid is young and learning kn the go. He will only get better and I'm glad it's for us
 
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In his defense, GAIII has great top end speed but doesn't have the moves of a guy like Bryant to get consistent production. I am not saying he is bust or even close to a bust, but once he has to cut, he allows every body to catch up to him unlike wood and riddick who cut immediately upfield. With Bryant you don't see the great speed but itseems like hes on a different level in terms of juking everybody out of their shoes
 
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Not sure if this is what he meant, but GAIII doesn't seem to be finding his niche at RB quite yet. He doesn't cut like a RB. Also, he does not find holes well. He runs into his blockers a lot.

He has break away speed, but for RBs, cutting ability>>>>>break away speed. See, Theo.

But he's young and he'll get his shot next year. Way too early to call him a bust.
 
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He's a true sophomore that contributes to our team. He returns kicks and gets snaps at RB. The dude has two seniors in front him, what did you expect to get from him?
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I was just expecting more of him because he has such a promising spring game performance. Now it seems like if he isn't given a 10 yard gap he can't get more than 5 yards. I know he is goig to get better, I just thought he would have a better year.

And by no means am I calling him a bust. I guess my expectations were just way too high
 
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I don't expect GAIII to be the primary back next year.

Mahone, Carlisle, Cam, or a freshman will be the everyday back, imo. GAIII will have a role similar to his this year, but with more touches.
 
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I don't expect GAIII to be the primary back next year.
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Mahone, Carlisle, Cam, or a freshman will be the everyday back, imo. GAIII will have a role similar to his this year, but with more touches.
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I'm expecting big things out of amir next year
 
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McDaniel has huge leg drive. When he is collared watch his legs --- not just churning but effectively boring out more yards. He also has, in my opinion, better vision than any other ND back [maybe equal to Riddick]. I don't know how his blocking is, but he is a warrior and I have to believe that that's OK. I don't know what his route-running and catching is like, but I bet it is in the Toma range.

I have said on this site before: Cam is slated to be the one clear muff that the coaching staff will have. These other guys will pass the staff's eyetests and he won't really get his chance --- saddens me. Greg Bryant looks to me to have the perfect potential for a strong-running rip-the-line-of-scrimmage Kelly-type back, and if he signs will further add to Cam's difficulties, though perhaps more understandably so if he's as good as he seems he might be.
 
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If they do get Bryant. I really hope they make it a 4 back rotation. They have too much talent to have sitting on the bench
 
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Old Man Mike said:
McDaniel has huge leg drive. When he is collared watch his legs --- not just churning but effectively boring out more yards. He also has, in my opinion, better vision than any other ND back [maybe equal to Riddick]. I don't know how his blocking is, but he is a warrior and I have to believe that that's OK. I don't know what his route-running and catching is like, but I bet it is in the Toma range.

I have said on this site before: Cam is slated to be the one clear muff that the coaching staff will have. These other guys will pass the staff's eyetests and he won't really get his chance --- saddens me. Greg Bryant looks to me to have the perfect potential for a strong-running rip-the-line-of-scrimmage Kelly-type back, and if he signs will further add to Cam's difficulties, though perhaps more understandably so if he's as good as he seems he might be.
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My thoughts exactly, great vision and a tough runner much like Riddick. Deceptively shifty and very quick. Great zone runner, which is what Kelly's system needs.
 
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Cierre in his first season used to get tackled by a gust of wind, in his second season he was almost neutralized when Gray was not providing the hammer, third year hes night and day a much more complete back... Let the kid grow up and get comfortable. it will click for him
 
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Several things confused:

Running backs in college versus NFL have different attributes. College can feature faster backs "with top end speed" because there are just more of them, (or they are cheaper, depending on how you look at it) and they only have to last for four years. The cost to the NFL team to hire a good running back is so great that they need as much built in durability as possible. Extra layers of armour cost a little speed.

Brian Kelly has three positions to put Cam McDaniel on the field. I am betting on Kelly and Cam.

It will be a good test of Kelly's growing reputation as a player developer, won't it?
 
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arrowryan said:
I was just expecting more of him because he has such a promising spring game performance. Now it seems like if he isn't given a 10 yard gap he can't get more than 5 yards. I know he is goig to get better, I just thought he would have a better year.

And by no means am I calling him a bust. I guess my expectations were just way too high
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You're showing your age, arrowyan. You must not remember the Junior Jabbie domination in '07.
 
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arrowryan said:
I agree with you. I was trying to say that right now GA3 has nothing but speed and it hasn't gotten him anywhere
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Yeah, I agree with you too. Sorry if that wasn't clear. I just wanted to point out the other side of the coin. One incomplete back with great speed, and my example of the a complete, and quite good, back with sub-optimal speed. Both examples highlight the fact that speed is not the end all for RBs.

Edit: I suppose I should add that I'm not discounting Atkinson's abilities. I think he has the potential to be a great back for ND and I am, and have been, excited that he's part of the team. My position is merely that speed is not everything for a RB and that Atkinson is not yet a complete back, although I certainly think he will get there. I would actually say the same thing in regards to Wood, in ND's offensive system. Riddick this year, on the other hand, was a perfect and complete back for the system and proved a lot of doubters wrong.
 
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