'11 CA LB Joe Schmidt (Scholarship Earned)

[ThePiombino]

That Jaylon is better in coverage than Joe.

Really don't care to engage you, man. Just don't understand why you'd tell another poster to STFU. You constantly call people out for "whining" or "b!tching" yet it seems like you're always throwing around b!tchy little comments.

Ding ding ding.

 

[kmoose]

A solid defensive formation against 4 WRs

Apparently, so is the formation that VanGorder put on the field. Completely shut USC down in the second half. But just keep ignoring that. If the formation on the field had not worked, then I could see bitching about it. But it did, so it's pointless to complain about it.

 

[kmoose]

That Jaylon is better in coverage than Joe.

Really don't care to engage you, man. Just don't understand why you'd tell another poster to STFU. You constantly call people out for "whining" or "b!tching" yet it seems like you're always throwing around b!tchy little comments.

*shrugs*

I've been told to STFU on more than one occasion. And, when it was warranted, I shut my mouth and went on my way. This isn't kindergarten, and every one here is, presumably, an adult. If they can't stand the heat, they should stay out of the kitchen.

Ask the mods; I don't complain about people talking meanly to me on here. I think I have only ever "reported" posts in one thread. And that was because I felt like a mod was getting ready to ban me because I disagreed with him.

Maybe Jaylon is better than Joe in coverage, but like I pointed out above......... it was working. So don't act like the staff is clueless about it.

 

[IrishinSyria]

Oy vey.............. so when the game goes bad(Clemson first half), it is on the coaches(kept trying to run the ball). But when the game goes good(shutting down USC in the 2nd half), it is just players making great plays?

Would love to see one post where I criticize the coaching staff for Clempson. I'm just pointing out that in the first half we were getting beat deep on one on one plays. What changed about our scheme in the second half to stop that? What coaching adjustment caused #6 to make one of the best interceptions I've seen in any level of football?

 

[irishff1014]

This situation is like playing on team with the coaches son. Someone is gonna get screwed because daddy is the coach. Joe is a good person he is just an OK football player. And Kelly can't tell him no.

 

[GoIrish41]

This situation is like playing on team with the coaches son. Someone is gonna get screwed because daddy is the coach. Joe is a good person he is just an OK football player. And Kelly can't tell him no.

Honestly, I think it is really just that simple.

 

[West Coast Domer]

Coaches are stubborn and do not like to admit they are wrong. BK is wrong on this one.

 

[Redbar]

I wonder if they are trying to get a "redshirt" year for Nyles after having to play him sooner than they wanted last year. Spit balling?

 

[koonja]

I wonder if they are trying to get a "redshirt" year for Nyles after having to play him sooner than they wanted last year. Spit balling?

He plays STs though. And has a forced fumble btw.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Look I'm on the Joe should probably not be starting bandwagon, but the Joe bashing is way overboard.

 

[Irish#1]

Like chickens in the barnyard...we need someone to pick on. I hope Joe goes off on saturday with picks, sacks, tackles, and caused fumbles so that maybe this thread falls off the front page.

No, the bashers would be questioning why he didn't do this before??

 

[ThePiombino]

*shrugs*

I've been told to STFU on more than one occasion. And, when it was warranted, I shut my mouth and went on my way. This isn't kindergarten, and every one here is, presumably, an adult. If they can't stand the heat, they should stay out of the kitchen.

Ask the mods; I don't complain about people talking meanly to me on here. I think I have only ever "reported" posts in one thread. And that was because I felt like a mod was getting ready to ban me because I disagreed with him.

Maybe Jaylon is better than Joe in coverage, but like I pointed out above......... it was working. So don't act like the staff is clueless about it.

First of all, there is no MAYBE about it. Second of all, just because it didn't get exploited doesn't mean it worked.

 

[irish4ever]

As a captain, I have no problem with Joe starting and getting the majority of the reps with his heart, leadership and determination leading the way, but Nyles Morgan definitely needs to be given more reps throughout the game than he's currently getting.

 

[RDU Irish]

Any word on his hand? Did the bye week get him back to a functional appendage or is he still swinging a club around? I am going to mark 60% of the frustration up to the hand and the other 40% from losing half a step to the injury.

I agree with irish4ever - get Nyles some more reps. Best thing we could see here is a few blow outs to get the backups some 4Q reps.

 

[Cackalacky]

The reason Mike linebacker Nyles Morgan has played limited minutes as a sophomore has little to do with his ability to learn the defense or put himself in a position to play.

Rather, Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly insists Morgan’s lack of playing time has to do with the importance of fifth year senior Mike LB Joe Schmidt. Two weeks ago Kelly referenced the situation where freshman wide receiver Equanimeous St. Brown is struggling to find a place in the rotation because junior WR Will Fuller is too valuable to remove at X-receiver.

Kelly’s mindset involving the MLBs appears similar.


“Well, you know, Joe has been a cleanup hitter for us, if you will, and we don't want to take him out of the lineup,” Kelly said of the captain. “We feel very confident, if Nyles was asked to go in the football game, and I know talking to (defensive coordinator) Brian (VanGorder) about this, in particular, that he's just handled himself extremely well. He's been very impactful on special teams for us and he's ready to go in and play for us.”

Schmidt, who led the Irish in tackles a year ago with 65 through eight games before suffering a season-ending injury, ranks third on the team with 41 after seven games. Schmidt also has three tackles for loss and two sacks.

Kelly and the defensive coaches have lauded Schmidt’s ability to relay signals from the sideline to his teammates and align the defense before every snap. Schmidt’s communication skills were sorely missed when the then-freshman Morgan replaced him in 2014. But the Irish, who are 13-2 in games Schmidt started, and their coaches are content leaving Schmidt in the game.

“I think we're just feeling very comfortable keeping Joe in the lineup, having not had him for so many games last year, we want to get every snap out of him that's possible,” Kelly said. “I think it's really less about Nyles and more about keeping Joe on the field.”


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Nick Ironside @NotreDame247

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[gkIrish]

247

Well now...

 

[Irish Insanity]

247

Wrong thread.

This belongs in the BK Revisited thread.

 

[IrishinSyria]

ly and the defensive coaches have lauded Schmidt’s ability to relay signals from the sideline to his teammates and align the defense before every snap.

Year 2 under BVG and we still need one specific player to do this?

 

[gkIrish]

Wrong thread.

This belongs in the BK Revisited thread.

Idk if you're joking but it probably does. Let's not though.

 

[Cackalacky]

Haha. That's gonna burn.

Feel free to repost. it is apropos to many threads.

 

[gkIrish]

Year 2 under BVG and we still need one specific player to do this?

According to BK, we don't. According to BK, Nyles is perfectly capable.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Idk if you're joking but it probably does. Let's not though.

I'm not

 

[gkIrish]

I had seen a couple of those quotes before but that whole article with all the context and everything leaves me almost speechless.

 

[rocket66]

Haha this forum is on the verge of exploding if Joe continues to miss tackles. I actually logged in after the first one in the USC game to check out the action.


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[Cackalacky]

It's done. Don't hate me gk.
#soldarity

 

[gkIrish]

It's done. Don't hate me gk.
#soldarity

Haha well what's done is done.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Nyles also had 3.5 TFL's in like 3 games, whereas Joe post-injury had .5 in 8 games. Nyles makes plays. It's a myth that Joe was 'good' pre-injury last year. Coach Dryskel on BGI has said he's never seen Joe play good football. He's been OK pre-injury, below average post.

Nyles probably misses some, but Joe misses almost all of them and can not make any plays.

Speaking to someone close to the situation, Nyles Morgan chooses the wrong gap every other play. He just can't grasp it yet and it's beyond maddening for the coaches. Schmidt and Grace get it, but Morgan just doesn't. Fans should stop listening to the BS that coaches always throw out there (as if they will throw a sophomore under the bus like that) and read between the lines. I personally think the question should be about why is the defense so dependent on a MLB getting everyone lined up. Jaime from ISD swears that the defense isn't complicated but the number of plays is what can be overwhelming. I tend to believe him.

Honestly, I'm not sure how much credit I'd give the defensive gameplan in the second half. KeiVarae made an incredible individual play on the first pick, but if that ball had been about one yard deeper that would have been another long touchdown pass. On the next pick, we had Joe running with Adoree on a deep route that Kessler missed, throwing into tripple coverage instead. It was a great win, but I'm not sure how much had to do with our coaches making the right adjustments and how much was just our players stepping up/their players folding.

The problem I have with that line of thinking is that BVG gets zero credit then...ever. Because when he has put his talented players in perfect position to make plays, and they don't, people look at the bottom line and say he didn't get the job done. But then when they DO make plays, he still gets no credit?

In the first half, BVG put his supposed future 2nd round draft pick DB in position to make a play on Juju, and he had great coverage, and Kessler put it right in the bread basket. BVG gets blamed. Same play late in the game, his athlete made a play the coaching staff believes he can make...you still blame BVG, or at least don't give him credit. I personally just don't feel like that's a fair way of assessing a coach.

This situation is like playing on team with the coaches son. Someone is gonna get screwed because daddy is the coach. Joe is a good person he is just an OK football player. And Kelly can't tell him no.

I'm sorry, but I think that's a freakin' ridiculous look at the situation. You think Brian Kelly got to the position he's at by not being able to tell marginal players "no"?

Lyght: "Coach, we have to get Schmidt out of there. He's killing us!"
Kelly: "I know but I REALLY like him! He's so nice and respectful! And have you seen that smile? Lights up a room every time. No way can I tell him no!"

C'mon. There's a lot of great kids on the team that don't see any playing time. Kelly and BVG play Schmidt because they think he gives them the best chance to win. They've seen the team with him in games and in practices, and they've seen the team without him in games and practices. And for whatever reason, they still play him. I don't get it either, and coaches definitely get things wrong, but I don't buy for one second that BK can't tell Joe no. He chooses not to. Big difference.

 

[connor_in]

I can't believe how much Joe Schmidt is sucking in this Republican presidential debate. BK should put in Nyles.

 

[dad4aa]

Speaking to someone close to the situation, Nyles Morgan chooses the wrong gap every other play. He just can't grasp it yet and it's beyond maddening for the coaches. Schmidt and Grace get it, but Morgan just doesn't. Fans should stop listening to the BS that coaches always throw out there (as if they will throw a sophomore under the bus like that) and read between the lines. I personally think the question should be about why is the defense so dependent on a MLB getting everyone lined up. Jaime from ISD swears that the defense isn't complicated but the number of plays is what can be overwhelming. I tend to believe him.



The problem I have with that line of thinking is that BVG gets zero credit then...ever. Because when he has put his talented players in perfect position to make plays, and they don't, people look at the bottom line and say he didn't get the job done. But then when they DO make plays, he still gets no credit?

In the first half, BVG put his supposed future 2nd round draft pick DB in position to make a play on Juju, and he had great coverage, and Kessler put it right in the bread basket. BVG gets blamed. Same play late in the game, his athlete made a play the coaching staff believes he can make...you still blame BVG, or at least don't give him credit. I personally just don't feel like that's a fair way of assessing a coach.



I'm sorry, but I think that's a freakin' ridiculous look at the situation. You think Brian Kelly got to the position he's at by not being able to tell marginal players "no"?

Lyght: "Coach, we have to get Schmidt out of there. He's killing us!"
Kelly: "I know but I REALLY like him! He's so nice and respectful! And have you seen that smile? Lights up a room every time. No way can I tell him no!"

C'mon. There's a lot of great kids on the team that don't see any playing time. Kelly and BVG play Schmidt because they think he gives them the best chance to win. They've seen the team with him in games and in practices, and they've seen the team without him in games and practices. And for whatever reason, they still play him. I don't get it either, and coaches definitely get things wrong, but I don't buy for one second that can't tell Joe no. He chooses not to. Big difference.

Excellent Post!!! - reps

 

[kmoose]

Second of all, just because it didn't get exploited doesn't mean it worked.

That's exactly what it means...... if there was a mismatch that USC was not able to exploit, it could very well have been because the defensive game plan created a mismatch in ND's favor, somewhere else, that kept them from exploiting it.