'08 GA CB/S Jamoris Slaughter (Signed LOI to ND)

[ulukinatme]

Kelly went a bit too far, even if it wasn't the first time Grimes' offense, but the calls of "racism" by ESPN went way too far. Neither of the guys on that show are close to the situation, they don't know Kelly, and they're not part of the university. They're shock jockies, they're spreading false information and race baiting.

 

[gkIrish]

Do you get my point, though? When we've got ESPN pundits slandering Kelly as racist on TV and rival coaches painting him as a tyrant to recruits, I don't see the point in continuing to slam him for it here.

I suppose.

 

[Irish Insanity]

No one here has argued that Kelly was completely in the right, or that this was a good look for him. We all agree that his lapse in composure was regrettable, which is why he apologized for it. So what are you hoping to accomplish by continuing to slam him over this episode? Meanwhile, the sophists at ESPN are arguing that Kelly is racist on national television, and opposing coaches are trying to convince blue-chip recruits that he's a tyrant. So you're not "holding ND to a higher standard" so much as giving material aid to our enemies.

First if all, I haven't continued to slam Kelly. Hell in haven't slammed him at all. I have said he could've handled it different and it's shed a negative light on us.
I hold ND to a higher standard which is exactly why I'm not accepting what has happened as ok like some seem to be.
I don't agree at all with oposing coaches using it against us in recruiting, and I definitely don't agree with talking heads claiming racism. However, if he didn't put his hands on an assistant on the national game of the week, they wouldn't have ammo to over exaggerate and manipulate in to bogus claims.

 

[dwshade]

If Grimes was repeatedly arguing with the refs then Kelly has every right to yell at him. The way he ran at him and grabbed his jacket was pretty dumb considering what people already think of him. Basically Kelly overreacted probably do to stress. This probably will be used against us in recruiting which sucks

Maybe some will try to use it against us in recruiting but it won't have any effect. Not concerned in the slightest.

 

[NDPhilly]

Maybe some will try to use it against us in recruiting but it won't have any effect. Not concerned in the slightest.

The fact that we are actually winning certainly is helpful. We'll see. Saban yells all the time and he consistently signs the #1 class in the country.

 

[IrishLion]

Wait wait wait.

There's a narrative that Kelly wouldn't have done that to a white guy?

C'mon man.

 

[IrishLion]

Nvm, checked the ESPN thread. I expect nothing less from ESPN talk shows.

I stay away from that cesspool unless it's live sports.

 

[NDRock]

Wait wait wait.

There's a narrative that Kelly wouldn't have done that to a white guy?

C'mon man.

I think the fact that Kelly won't ever take out Schmidt proves the man is a racist. Why else doesn't Morgan or Martini ever get any run?

 

[Bogtrotter07]

No one has mentioned this yet, and at risk of reheating the debate, I was really pleased with the way Kelly handled the situation, by his response to the question in the Pitt press conference.

When asked about it again, he didn't play it off. He didn't preempt it, or act apologetic.

He simply stated that Grimes and the bench had been warned. Made no excuses for the way he reacted. Stated that he was the one responsible for the ND sideline, and that he wasn't going to allow the team to get an avoidable penalty in that situation.

He held no pretense of self-justification, he just simply stated the facts. He implicitly if not explicitly agreed that his behavior left something to be desired.

He then made it clear that he had conversations with his superiors, and with David Grimes about the whole situation.

He then smiled and said that David would be with the program for years to come.

I liked it. Hopefully it will lose some traction, and eventually go away.