'24 MI QB CJ Carr (Notre Dame Signee)

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Price for sure, IMO. Dude would've been a killer if he was our feature back rather than a 1B to Love. I think Julius Jones definitely ranks ahead of Kyren IMO. Kyren probably the better all-purpose back, but Jones was a more elite runner.

I probably give the nod to Kyren over Darius Walker but he would be close IMO. Another really good APB. Audric also in that conversation.
Julius Jones may have been a better pure runner but Kyren Williams contained just enormous quantities of dawg. He was the soul of the 2020 and 2021 teams, which went a combined 21-4 (the fourth loss being a bowl game in which he did not play). I'd put him ahead of anyone we're talking about but Love.
 

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Forgetting Love; who’s better than Kyren? Maybe Price. Jones? He had incredible ability but never really put it all together. Did he even start? I can’t think of anyone else who would challenge Kyren for #2.
I think Kyren and Price are pretty equal. I would rate them better than the rest of the 2000's RB's.
 

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I'm not sure how much it would've changed based on who CJ is and how he said he handled his recruitment (wanting to do his own thing as opposed to what others and his family expected/wanted of him), but it was absolutely shocking to me to hear him basically admit that scUM barely recruited him and just assumed he was a lock based on his last name.

Said he visited ND a few times under BK and was impressed by Tommy, but never seriously considered ND until Marcus took over.

Great interview by Carr despite Rich kind of being a douche about the ND/scUM rivalry. "Hey thanks for being here you have a cool coach but I can't stand your school." Ok, bud.
 

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One of my main takeaways from this video is that they need to run more play action

Love that he has a good feel for the pocket but also the escapability to extend plays when things do break down.

Man, Pauling and Raridon did make quite a few plays downfield for us last year. Pauling was a great addition.

I think the sum of the parts in 2026 will be far greater than 2025, however, between Porter, Graham, Cam Williams, Micah Gilbert, Burress etc. lot of young potential and raw talent to combine with Faison and a (hopefully) healthy Greathouse.

He's in for a big year.
 

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My only worry is his mentality now that the team is truly on his shoulders. Really wish he hadn't had such a bad case of the yips against USC. Those couple of games where he played tight are the only thing giving me pause.
 

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My only worry is his mentality now that the team is truly on his shoulders. Really wish he hadn't had such a bad case of the yips against USC. Those couple of games where he played tight are the only thing giving me pause.

I actually think his mentality is why he’s going to do well. He has that obsessive/psychopath behavior that’s needed to be a true alpha QB1. We saw it last year when he was warming up by himself and everyone thought it was weird.
 

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My only worry is his mentality now that the team is truly on his shoulders. Really wish he hadn't had such a bad case of the yips against USC. Those couple of games where he played tight are the only thing giving me pause.

I agree with you. Those clips above and the USC game makes me even more mad about missing the playoffs last year. CJ having another 4 games of high pressure experience would have helped going into this year... Any doubts would have been settled with the primetime exposure.
 

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I actually think his mentality is why he’s going to do well. He has that obsessive/psychopath behavior that’s needed to be a true alpha QB1. We saw it last year when he was warming up by himself and everyone thought it was weird.

I hope you're right. I don't think there's any question that he's a psycho competitor, but that can be bad thing if it turns into internal pressure. The warming up by himself thing is a good example actually. IIRC the coaches said at the time that CJ wanted to do that because he likes to get his antsiness out by moving around and throwing instead of stretching with the team. That doesn't sound like a stone-cold killer to me. It sounds like a bundle of nerves.

Really not trying to be pessimistic about CJ overall as I'm really excited about him. I think his floor is probably a top 10 QB in the country and he's going to shred the bottom 3/4ths of the schedule. Just saying my only concern is the USC game where he was clearly in his own head and spent a lot of the early game overthrowing wide open Raridon.
 

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In the most intense game possible (Miami) he played well given the horrible game plan. I agree CJ can overhype himself, but he settles in once the game gets going.

Side note: he/coaches need to be willing to run him more.
 

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In the most intense game possible (Miami) he played well given the horrible game plan. I agree CJ can overhype himself, but he settles in once the game gets going.

Side note: he/coaches need to be willing to run him more.
I respectfully disagree. We have a steep stable of backs, and I really don't have any interest in seeing Hebert or Grubbs at all unless it's in mop up duty.
 

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In the most intense game possible (Miami) he played well given the horrible game plan. I agree CJ can overhype himself, but he settles in once the game gets going.

Side note: he/coaches need to be willing to run him more.
Maybe if it's a close game in the natty but my dude isn't built like Cam Newton.
 

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I respectfully disagree. We have a steep stable of backs, and I really don't have any interest in seeing Hebert or Grubbs at all unless it's in mop up duty.
I think the way they used him in the run game last year was effective. Just enough to be someone the defense had to respect. Also, Love was a sneaky good run blocker for him
 

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I prefer not to have any designed qb runs. It's a bad sign if we need to do that to convert short yardage.

CJ should feel free to take off when the play breaks down though.
 

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My only worry is his mentality now that the team is truly on his shoulders. Really wish he hadn't had such a bad case of the yips against USC. Those couple of games where he played tight are the only thing giving me pause.
CJ is a perfectionist. There are some side effects of that.
But as someone who watched Peyton Mannings ocd neurotic ass his whole career. I'll take an intense obsessive perfectionist prick any day of the week
 

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CJ is a perfectionist. There are some side effects of that.
But as someone who watched Peyton Mannings ocd neurotic ass his whole career. I'll take an intense obsessive perfectionist prick any day of the week
Tom Brady was the same way. If you didn't run the route correctly he'd just unload on you right there in the middle of practice.

Neither Peyton or Tom were mobile or could 'buy (pocket) time' so WRs running precise routes was essential in NOT exposing either to hellacious hits in the pocket.
 
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