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Too early to tell, but some think it's a Chinese prank (not governmental, just goofs having fun.) Count on an upwelling of funk about the object as we go. Incredibly whack ideas are already out there (especially on things like Instagram.) More "true photos" will arise. Attached is another one.

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OMM, since you are our resident expert, I was wondering what your thoughts are on all those scientists coming up missing or deceased.
 
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OMM, from what I can recall your thoughts on Lazar weren’t too great.
He seems to be picking up steam as of the last month or so, have your opinions on him changed at all over the past few years?

Find his story super interesting.
 
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Most think China was doing it; but when you look at all of them that really does not fit.

I have no doubt China will do anything to anyone anytime someone in the politburo or elsewhere decides. That is not really in question. But you have to ask what do they get out of it. What benefit to them. A couple of these I can certainly see reasons for them. But in others no. Now of course it is VERY unlikely all of these had the same perps doing it or if there even were perps.

Now of course the possibility is that someone wanted some of these people out of the way for whatever reason. I think there are several different reasons for these.

I have always believed that there is a good chance Aliens came around to look us over. Maybe we are the circus side show for this part of the galaxy. But more than that? why? if you have the tech to travel FTL which seems a must for them to come here, what the hell do we have that they would want?

Slave labor? With the tech they have?
Our resources> much easier to mine an asteroid belt.
I just do not see what any advanced alien race would want from us outside of amusement.
 
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In our UFO researcher world, we have no evidence trails (yet) that this has anything to do with our research or UFOs generally.
(p.s. friends of mine are putting out a subtle inside joke that there is some internet "tell" about who goes missing, and the only file that fits the tell and is not "gone" is the one with MY name. :D:alien:

As to Lazar, apparently nothing I say will change anyone's mind, but for the eleventh time: No. I see nothing compelling about any detail of any thing Bob Lazar has said. The person had no standing. The only (improbable) thing that he could have had cross his path was listening in on other people talking out of school on something. His background clearly shows him NOT to be working at the sites he claims.
 
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Many. One quick bit of "wisdom": 90+% of this so-called secret document release is already in my files (for years.) I used a bunch of it in writing the UFOs and Government book. I have some of my guys looking to see what if anything is genuinely new.

Big dump. Tough to go through just myself, esp. at my age. The NASA Apollo pictures are kind of neat. They show that NASA WAS quite intrigued about them. I have someone looking into whether there are honest solutions to all of them. I can't just jump in and "dedicate my life" to the heavy plow-work anymore. What's good about this is that it shows what we veterans have been saying for many decades: Behind the Mirror, the intel community has been VERY seriously interested and the public face of smirkery is just populated by ignorant goons.
 
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Old Man Mike said:
Many. One quick bit of "wisdom": 90+% of this so-called secret document release is already in my files (for years.) I used a bunch of it in writing the UFOs and Government book. I have some of my guys looking to see what if anything is genuinely new.

Big dump. Tough to go through just myself, esp. at my age. The NASA Apollo pictures are kind of neat. They show that NASA WAS quite intrigued about them. I have someone looking into whether there are honest solutions to all of them. I can't just jump in and "dedicate my life" to the heavy plow-work anymore. What's good about this is that it shows what we veterans have been saying for many decades: Behind the Mirror, the intel community has been VERY seriously interested and the public face of smirkery is just populated by ignorant goons.
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Have had your book in my Amazon cart for a while. Sorry. Guess I need to pull the trigger on that. haha
 
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Old Man Mike said:
Many. One quick bit of "wisdom": 90+% of this so-called secret document release is already in my files (for years.) I used a bunch of it in writing the UFOs and Government book. I have some of my guys looking to see what if anything is genuinely new.

Big dump. Tough to go through just myself, esp. at my age. The NASA Apollo pictures are kind of neat. They show that NASA WAS quite intrigued about them. I have someone looking into whether there are honest solutions to all of them. I can't just jump in and "dedicate my life" to the heavy plow-work anymore. What's good about this is that it shows what we veterans have been saying for many decades: Behind the Mirror, the intel community has been VERY seriously interested and the public face of smirkery is just populated by ignorant goons.
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Took a quick at a couple of letters. Noticed Hoover noted a copy to the personal file of a gentlemen from Wisconson who wrote Hoover.

OMM, with all of your research, I'm guessing they have a file on you?
 
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FBI didn't have to. The big majority of "our" (The Center for UFO Studies of Dr. J. Allen Hynek) records have been available to serious researchers for decades. FBI just "released" what they got from Project Blue Book, USAF, NASA, and threw into a big box which they magnanimously gave us (which we already had.) Another government agency has asked for "our" files to access. If they want, my personal files can be part of that project. FBI is not the relevant agency for data nor research.
 
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OMM, I've listened to a pretty good amount on remote viewing/Stargate etc. Whats your opinion on that stuff, if you care to share
 
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Re: STARGATE. I know the lead scientist, Hal Puthoff. (attached is a pix of us talking with the now deceased expert on psychics used by Police, Marcello Truzzi.) Lower pic is Hal, Russell Targ, CIA's Kit Green, and their best remote viewer, Pat Price. RV works, but not quite precisely enough to give a military advantage.

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Vance's belief that UFOs are flown by demons is really stupid. (for all kinds of reasons which make you wonder if he had a religion-constricted brain fart. ... I am, by the way, at least as faithful a Catholic as he is, so my anti-UFO-demon view is based on case based facts, not small-brain-lack-of-theological-knowledge or scope.)
 
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Old Man Mike said:
Vance's belief that UFOs are flown by demons is really stupid. (for all kinds of reasons which make you wonder if he had a religion-constricted brain fart. ... I am, by the way, at least as faithful a Catholic as he is, so my anti-UFO-demon view is based on case based facts, not small-brain-lack-of-theological-knowledge or scope.)
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or he is open to more possibilities then you apparently are...

the supernatural is just as well supported as UFO's are
 
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Weird comment. Of course it is. That has nothing to do with whether data shows them to be linked.

Vance BELIEVES them to be demons. That's a strong mental state, belief. Belief is commitment.

I BELIEVE in certain spiritual things (GOD, Soul, Free Will, Afterlife) and do NOT believe in others (Demons drive UFOs.)

I do NOT "believe" in UFOs; I study the phenomenon and the following hypothesis: " There is supporting evidence that advanced aerial technology beyond our current abilities to duplicate is operating in our atmosphere." FOR THAT HYPOTHESIS, I assess the data as in strong favor of it. This is not a "belief" situation; this is a study and analyze situation.

Maybe you can understand it this way: GOD and Soul are important enough to believe in, and make a commitment of Faith. UFOS are not. The UFO phenomenon should be studied as scientifically as possible. When I do that, "alternate hypotheses", such as demons, show close to zero correlation with the data known. "open-mindedness-regardless" is not a healthy progressive mental state, though it does allow lazy interesting thoughts and emotional biases.
 
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