It’s not that serious lol
Tommy Rees - Offensive Coordinator
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It’s not that serious lol
Of course not, but if you want to just ignore the flaws in your opinion and post in bad faith, go fuck yourself 😊
Damn you. I was about to throw that at our griend
I would ask the question. Name a QB who worked under Rees who has either, had a better year after leaving Rees? Or name a QB who statistically regressed under Reed (ie. He was better under....)
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He’s no longer a QB Coach, so who cares?
It’s probably the money. Yeah it’s the money, but who recruited CJ Carr though I can’t remember
Rees recruited a lot of highly touted QB recruits. Carr wasn’t the first. But Carr is the first one to play like highly touted recruit, as he is being coached under Gino.
By 'highly touted' you mean like Phil Jurkovic right?
Tyler Buchner was a big miss/missed eval.
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If you recruit 3 Top 100 recruits and 1 works out that is a pretty normal hit rate
Rees’ issue as it pertains to recruiting/developing QBs is Clark and Pyne were unplayable. Well I guess he is the only one that made Pyne playable in retrospect.
Either way we are pretty far from anything that currently matters? The blackmail interview you infer happened with the Browns and Falcons have nothing to do with his ability to recruit and develop QBs. It’s his knowledge of offensive scheme, not even fully play calling, which I’m pretty confident he excels at.
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I thought his ability to scheme Mayer open in 2022 was impressive.
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Kind of an unfair advantage tbh. Drew Pyne was basically Tommy Rees 2.0. It’s not often a coach gets to basically coach themselves on the field.How you do not consider winning 8 games with Drew Pyne at QB in 2022 a "skill" showing up on the field
Drew Pyne
Season Team Conf Class Pos G Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate
2022* Notre Dame Ind SO QB 11 164 254 64.6 2021 22 8.7 6 2.4 8.0 8.63 12.3 183.7 155.3
He was 8-2 in 2022 (he barely played against Marshall) and basically had one target
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Pyne=Rees? ... Uh, no. ... ATTITUDE. BRAINS. AND a better Arm.
Why would anyone say Pyne=Rees? One assumes that the sentence writer isn't a moron, so what's the motivation?
Especially since it seems to be embedded in a crusade to smear a guy who did Notre Dame a fine football service.
How are people this disloyal to players who gave huge time and effort for Notre Dame? Teammates meant something to me in the day.
Why would anyone say Pyne=Rees? One assumes that the sentence writer isn't a moron, so what's the motivation?
Especially since it seems to be embedded in a crusade to smear a guy who did Notre Dame a fine football service.
How are people this disloyal to players who gave huge time and effort for Notre Dame? Teammates meant something to me in the day.
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No idea why this is such a controversial topic that has people making deep personal attacks. These are just opinions and really not that big of a deal.
Someone has yet to provide a reasonable argument that Rees is anything above an average OC.
The biggest argument so far is that Saban hired him, and then the NFL did too. As if no one has ever made a bad hire before. Really, Rees just finds himself in an ideal timeframe where young OCs are the hot commodity that everyone wants to bet on.
His teams seem to regress when he takes over, then somehow bounce back after he leaves. The stats support that.
I get that people have an emotional attachment to his time here and want him to succeed, that’s totally fine. I’m not rooting against him at all, and think it would be great to have a former Notre Dame QB succeed as a coach in the NFL. But when you go banging the “Notre Dame Man” mantra about him, please remember he left his Alma Mater for a lateral move.
Someone has yet to provide a reasonable argument that Rees is anything above an average OC.
The biggest argument so far is that Saban hired him, and then the NFL did too. As if no one has ever made a bad hire before. Really, Rees just finds himself in an ideal timeframe where young OCs are the hot commodity that everyone wants to bet on.
His teams seem to regress when he takes over, then somehow bounce back after he leaves. The stats support that.
I get that people have an emotional attachment to his time here and want him to succeed, that’s totally fine. I’m not rooting against him at all, and think it would be great to have a former Notre Dame QB succeed as a coach in the NFL. But when you go banging the “Notre Dame Man” mantra about him, please remember he left his Alma Mater for a lateral move.
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And he actually thought Buchner was good enough to lure him to Bama. Yeah great coach. I do respect the time he lost his shot on Drew Pyne. I think Pyne had a stronger arm than Tommy. Six pack I’m not so sure.
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He can thank his ND education. He is also someone who has leveraged his dads involvement in the biz.
Whatever you say Sparky..
He was hired by the greatest college coach in history and than gets to the pros and keeps getting promoted. You aren't very bright.
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We knew talking about being grateful for Tommy’s service at ND. I do appreciate his first year when he helped us beat USC and then Miami. His best moments for me. Made a few plays in relief of Golson in 2012 that was also good. In today’s portal world Tommy would not be drawing offers to leave ND. He got a great education and like it or not got a great education and opportunity under Brian Kelly while also making money that wasn’t out there for him yet.
I’d say ND was better to Tommy than he was to ND. Not saying it wasn’t mutually beneficial but I doubt he would go back and change a thing. I on the other hand wished Jimmy Clausen stayed an extra year and we recruited some better QBs.
Hope he goes on to be one of the great ones. Don’t see anything great yet but maybe good.
I’d say ND was better to Tommy than he was to ND. Not saying it wasn’t mutually beneficial but I doubt he would go back and change a thing. I on the other hand wished Jimmy Clausen stayed an extra year and we recruited some better QBs.
Hope he goes on to be one of the great ones. Don’t see anything great yet but maybe good.
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Alabama 2025: Scoring Offense #49, Rushing Offense #125, L R12
Alabama 2024: Scoring Offense #24, Rushing Offense #47, no CFP
Alabama 2023: Scoring Offense #24, Rushing Offense #47, L Semifinal
Epic bounce back from Bama so far
Ben Johnson is the best thing to happen to the Bears since the Super Bowl Shuffle.
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I’m bright enough to know the difference between then and than.
Good comeback. ...meanwhile Rees is likely becoming the OC for the Falcons. He must be a terrible coach...huh?
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Stats really don't tell the story. You need to look at Long and BK's last recruiting classes from 2019 and 2020. Only two offensive studs in 2 back to back classes did anything: Kyren and Mayer. The rest of the players transferred, moved to defense, or didn't make a real impact. That's a tremendous amount of misses, and it's why Rees was forced to start a ton of freshmen and sophomores in back to back years to fill the holes. It's also why Parker had a bit of success in 2023, he was gifted one of the most experienced offenses with a ton of talent at every position (Except WR, some good talent but young).
What has he done to show he's a good coach? He turned Ian Book into the winningest QB in ND history and got him drafted. He's beaten Clemson more times than OSU has as an entire program. Coached in two playoffs for ND, 3 total. Managed to win a bunch of games with Pyne at QB. He turned Milroe around from a poor QB into a possible Heisman. He often did more with less. Detractors like to knock him for the QB recruiting early in his tenure, but fail to mention that once BK was out of the picture he landed Hartman, Carr, and Minchey in the span of a few months and nearly had Moore before he got cold feet. I honestly doubt we get Denbrock back to ND if Rees and Freeman didn't turn around the offensive recruiting when they did, they set themselves up for future success.
I already outlined this above, but QB recruiting turned around once BK left. Rees is a big reason why we got Hartman and Carr, and Hartman convinced Riley to come so that's a bit of an assist.
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This was the post that began the relitigating of Tommy Rees.
It's actually kind of impressive.
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At the end of the day it's the smart move. Any move out of Cleveland is good for the career, and I say that as a lax Cleveland fan
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As a Atlanta fan and a ND fan, don’t know how I feel about this
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He obviously has an uncle that works in the Falcon's front office. Or he hacked the GMs computer and found some really incriminating info. Or he's secretly been initiated into some blood-cult with some uncouth powerful men who enjoy pushing the chess pieces around.
Or he's just a damn good OC and people whose entire livelihoods depend on spotting talent have once again cast their vote.
Or...I'm sure some of you posters can explain it away. Good ol boys club? Idiots in power? Perhaps an overly simplistic analysis of basic stats explaining that he's unqualified?
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I've never understood the hate for Tommy Rees, starting from his playing days. Sure he was 6' nothing, slow and had a below average arm for a P4 QB, but the man played above his physical limitations and gave his all when the more touted QBs ahead of him failed. And did it through the boos. Then, after he moved on to coaching, came back to ND despite how the fans treated him, and stuck at it even when his boss and mentor did ND dirty. The notion he owes ND anything is ridiculous.
But he wasn't a 5*. And he decided to work for the greatest CFB coach of all time. So we shit on him.
Just silly.
But he wasn't a 5*. And he decided to work for the greatest CFB coach of all time. So we shit on him.
Just silly.
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