2026 ND Portal Targets

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If you thought that, you haven't paid attention to anything Freeman has said since becoming coach.
Bingo.

Was there ever a point that Pete, Marcus, etc. said anything about scorching the Earth and going on a revenge binge? I don't think anyone affiliated with the program or university ever said anything of the sort. So holding them to that standard just seems kind of stupid. If we as fans said it or wished for it, that's something totally different.
 

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My issue with laying everything at the feet of Martin is similar to laying everything at the feet of Ash. Freeman hired them, Freeman oversees the program. Head coaches are supposed to be psychopathic control freaks that have their hand in everything. If Freeman just hired Ash and then never checked in on the defense before the Miami game….what was he doing? If Freeman hired Martin and never checked in on the plans for the portal….what was he doing?

These are just as valid questions to ask, especially considering the knock of BK compared to the supposed strength of Freeman. He can’t only be a rah rah locker room guy.

That's my question re: Lax's post about Martin.

Freeman hired the guy. He's been here a year. ND has had success in the Portal in the past. Why is this now an issue? If ND's approach is causing so many to scratch their heads, why is it being placed at the feet of Martin rather than MF?

Something just isn't adding up.
 

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What is happening?
With Gilliam specifically or overall? With Gilliam, they did not make a large enough offer to lock him down and there are too many administrative boxes with how they approach admissions, contracts, etc. It's a cumbersome process relative to the other places. They could still land him, I don't think it's a done deal, but everywhere else is just "sign here, enroll in your online classes next week."

Overall:
1. ND has ample access to funds. It's not like they don't have access to enough money to buy a singular defensive tackle.
2. They did some back channeling with guys pre-portal but not enough. Martin thought he had multiple guys "committed" who fell through. It's an error in execution, and that falls on the GM because no HC anywhere is talking to agents / tampering pre-portal.
3. There are some positions -- like WR -- where ND intended to spend a bunch of money on someone like Marsh but really had no "big spend" contingency plans after that because there are only a handful of guys that they considered difference makers and only some of those guys were interested in ND. Small venn diagram.
4. There are other positions (like DT and kicker) where they knew they MUST get guys. With some, like kicker, they went full tamper mode but then somehow missed anyways because they took someone at their word. At DT, they simply did not do enough to be at the front of the pack for anyone. Not enough pre-portal work, no push to have "first visits," no outbidding competition, no strike while the iron is hot mentality. It just is what it is, they are scrambling now with guys hadn't done enough background on and while ND has adjusted some of their administrative stuff to be "easier" it's still not as smooth as it could be. The works are all gunked up. Everything is being done on the fly "oh this guy entered the portal? are we interested? can we get him into school? how much is he looking for?" Just totally disorganized.
5. Some of this is a product of ND not really wanting to be a portal team. They focus on HS recruiting and player retention. With that being said, you still need to have the means to go into the portal and get guys to plug holes. But they are just not very adept at winning the portal because that's not how they build their team.
6. Some of the narratives are batshit. Both positive and negative. No, Marcus Freeman being considered by the NFL does not matter, that was a completely ridiculous statement I saw put out by a paid site. USC is signing guys without coaches even being in place. No, Bruce Straughn and whoever else make loud twitter proclamations ... ND is not on the verge of announcing a bunch of signings and there is no master plan.

I expect when the dust settles that ND will have gotten a handful of quality transfers and not be left completely screwed here. But the process needs to change for 2027, and I expect that it will. You can point the finger a lot of different directions but Mike Martin is being paid a lot of money to do a job that he frankly did half-awesome (recruiting) and half-WTF? (portal).
 

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From source

"they are going to be further changes in the recruiting department. Some of them are not going to be announced publicly, and at least one of the changes is going to be a shedding of responsibilities"

I will hopefully have more info tonight.
 

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"they are going to be further changes in the recruiting department. Some of them are not going to be announced publicly, and at least one of the changes is going to be a shedding of responsibilities"

I will hopefully have more info tonight.
Ok, but are they going to land anyone in the portal?
 

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Last year we had essentially every transfer picked out prior to the portal opening. That was bc of Chad? And Martin just whiffed there?
Yes, Chad did a much better job of back channeling. People thought Martin would have similar results and it was the opposite.
 

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AD Pete went all in on podcasts this offseason. Everyone around the program was pissed off and I loved that! It was promising that we were going to play hardball unlike years past….and we lay an Egg in the portal.. just absolutely cannot happen. I have a bad feeling that Freeman is like “wow this blows” and is looking at real estate in Baltimore (oof)
 

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With Gilliam specifically or overall? With Gilliam, they did not make a large enough offer to lock him down and there are too many administrative boxes with how they approach admissions, contracts, etc. It's a cumbersome process relative to the other places. They could still land him, I don't think it's a done deal, but everywhere else is just "sign here, enroll in your online classes next week."

Overall:
1. ND has ample access to funds. It's not like they don't have access to enough money to buy a singular defensive tackle.
2. They did some back channeling with guys pre-portal but not enough. Martin thought he had multiple guys "committed" who fell through. It's an error in execution, and that falls on the GM because no HC anywhere is talking to agents / tampering pre-portal.
3. There are some positions -- like WR -- where ND intended to spend a bunch of money on someone like Marsh but really had no "big spend" contingency plans after that because there are only a handful of guys that they considered difference makers and only some of those guys were interested in ND. Small venn diagram.
4. There are other positions (like DT and kicker) where they knew they MUST get guys. With some, like kicker, they went full tamper mode but then somehow missed anyways because they took someone at their word. At DT, they simply did not do enough to be at the front of the pack for anyone. Not enough pre-portal work, no push to have "first visits," no outbidding competition, no strike while the iron is hot mentality. It just is what it is, they are scrambling now with guys hadn't done enough background on and while ND has adjusted some of their administrative stuff to be "easier" it's still not as smooth as it could be. The works are all gunked up. Everything is being done on the fly "oh this guy entered the portal? are we interested? can we get him into school? how much is he looking for?" Just totally disorganized.
5. Some of this is a product of ND not really wanting to be a portal team. They focus on HS recruiting and player retention. With that being said, you still need to have the means to go into the portal and get guys to plug holes. But they are just not very adept at winning the portal because that's not how they build their team.
6. Some of the narratives are batshit. Both positive and negative. No, Marcus Freeman being considered by the NFL does not matter, that was a completely ridiculous statement I saw put out by a paid site. USC is signing guys without coaches even being in place. No, Bruce Straughn and whoever else make loud twitter proclamations ... ND is not on the verge of announcing a bunch of signings and there is no master plan.

I expect when the dust settles that ND will have gotten a handful of quality transfers and not be left completely screwed here. But the process needs to change for 2027, and I expect that it will. You can point the finger a lot of different directions but Mike Martin is being paid a lot of money to do a job that he frankly did half-awesome (recruiting) and half-WTF? (portal).

Thanks for this. Clears some things up for me.
 

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"they are going to be further changes in the recruiting department. Some of them are not going to be announced publicly, and at least one of the changes is going to be a shedding of responsibilities"

that feels like Martin w/ the portal, no?
 

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And to think I believed Notre Dame was gonna go OSU 2024 on the portal this offseason lmfao. They are a bunch of giant cheap asses. Fuck everyone involved.
Wonder what they paid in current roster retention. Part of what most people forget is that you have to put money into your recruiting class and current roster.

You believed one thing and to this point you've received something different. That might be more on you than it is on everyone involved. Not to mention The Portal is still open for a bit. I get it is frustrating, but come on. "Fuck everyone involved"? I guess by the 19th if we're sitting here and still have nothing in the end, I'd probably be right there with you, but it's Wednesday the 7th. I want to determine how inept and or arrogant they were once the process is actually finished.
 

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"they are going to be further changes in the recruiting department. Some of them are not going to be announced publicly, and at least one of the changes is going to be a shedding of responsibilities"

I will hopefully have more info tonight.

I saw they added another recruiting staffer from Penn State
 

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That's my question re: Lax's post about Martin.

Freeman hired the guy. He's been here a year. ND has had success in the Portal in the past. Why is this now an issue? If ND's approach is causing so many to scratch their heads, why is it being placed at the feet of Martin rather than MF?

Something just isn't adding up.
MF is #1 on the blame list and then everyone else
 

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I honestly do not know exactly what my previous post means, was just the message I got. I am calling my guy this evening. I don't have time for a phone call right now.
 

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Bingo.

Was there ever a point that Pete, Marcus, etc. said anything about scorching the Earth and going on a revenge binge? I don't think anyone affiliated with the program or university ever said anything of the sort. So holding them to that standard just seems kind of stupid. If we as fans said it or wished for it, that's something totally different.
I have zero doubt that they are using the screw job and everything since as motivation, which is what Pete said in his interviews and holds to what we know about Marcus after the James Franklin attempt to big brother him at the press conference last year. But there is a difference between using it as motivation and fundamentally changing who you are and the operational tenets of the program.
 

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With Gilliam specifically or overall? With Gilliam, they did not make a large enough offer to lock him down and there are too many administrative boxes with how they approach admissions, contracts, etc. It's a cumbersome process relative to the other places. They could still land him, I don't think it's a done deal, but everywhere else is just "sign here, enroll in your online classes next week."

Overall:
1. ND has ample access to funds. It's not like they don't have access to enough money to buy a singular defensive tackle.
2. They did some back channeling with guys pre-portal but not enough. Martin thought he had multiple guys "committed" who fell through. It's an error in execution, and that falls on the GM because no HC anywhere is talking to agents / tampering pre-portal.
3. There are some positions -- like WR -- where ND intended to spend a bunch of money on someone like Marsh but really had no "big spend" contingency plans after that because there are only a handful of guys that they considered difference makers and only some of those guys were interested in ND. Small venn diagram.
4. There are other positions (like DT and kicker) where they knew they MUST get guys. With some, like kicker, they went full tamper mode but then somehow missed anyways because they took someone at their word. At DT, they simply did not do enough to be at the front of the pack for anyone. Not enough pre-portal work, no push to have "first visits," no outbidding competition, no strike while the iron is hot mentality. It just is what it is, they are scrambling now with guys hadn't done enough background on and while ND has adjusted some of their administrative stuff to be "easier" it's still not as smooth as it could be. The works are all gunked up. Everything is being done on the fly "oh this guy entered the portal? are we interested? can we get him into school? how much is he looking for?" Just totally disorganized.
5. Some of this is a product of ND not really wanting to be a portal team. They focus on HS recruiting and player retention. With that being said, you still need to have the means to go into the portal and get guys to plug holes. But they are just not very adept at winning the portal because that's not how they build their team.
6. Some of the narratives are batshit. Both positive and negative. No, Marcus Freeman being considered by the NFL does not matter, that was a completely ridiculous statement I saw put out by a paid site. USC is signing guys without coaches even being in place. No, Bruce Straughn and whoever else make loud twitter proclamations ... ND is not on the verge of announcing a bunch of signings and there is no master plan.

I expect when the dust settles that ND will have gotten a handful of quality transfers and not be left completely screwed here. But the process needs to change for 2027, and I expect that it will. You can point the finger a lot of different directions but Mike Martin is being paid a lot of money to do a job that he frankly did half-awesome (recruiting) and half-WTF? (portal).
“I don’t want to read all this smart and thoughtful analysis, I just want to jump off a bridge while wrapped in my soiled bedsheets.” - half this board today.
 

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In regards to the recruiting/personnel department...

ND is hiring D. J. Bryant away from Penn State. His title there was Recruiting Coordinator for Personnel and Recruitment
 

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I expect when the dust settles that ND will have gotten a handful of quality transfers and not be left completely screwed here. But the process needs to change for 2027, and I expect that it will.
It absolutely has to. With the number of key players they're going to lose (Carr, Traore, Bowen, Moore, Gray, Shuler, potentially Tae Johnson), they're going to have to go big-game hunting in the portal for multiple spots.
 

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It absolutely has to. With the number of key players they're going to lose (Carr, Traore, Bowen, Moore, Gray, Shuler, potentially Tae Johnson), they're going to have to go big-game hunting in the portal for multiple spots.
Yeah 27 is too late,… you did not have the luxury of fixing this later
 

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“These multi-million dollar NIL guarantees to players are expected to result in an influx of submissions to the NIL Go clearinghouse. If deals are denied, athletes are deemed ineligible.

“There’s going to be some rude awakening,” says one college official.”

ND playing the long game when IU and Tech are ineligible
 

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It would be pretty funny college football for the traditional blue bloods like ND and Texas to collude to rug pull IU and Texas Tech for outspending them. Now the rules exist, gotcha!
 
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