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I'll go ahead and say it. I'd be embarrassed for MF to do something like this
I'll go ahead and say it. I'd be embarrassed for MF to do something like this
Lol probably not but they were ready to run through a wall afterwardsDon't think too many in that room was loving it at that time lol.
I'm sure they didn't.Don't think too many in that room was loving it at that time lol.
I love this fire. I love this passion. I think all of us here love it. Now coach Free needs to get a complete season next year and finally put it together.
I think Freeman is too competitive to walk away feeling like he didn't finish the job. I'm not trying to be naïve or anything, but MF is competitive to a fault and I think he wants to win it all before he feels satisfied leaving. And, he's young enough that he could coach at ND for 15 years and still go to the NFL and coach for 20 if he wanted.Just watch Hard Knocks and you can see how NFL coaches talk to players. It isn't anything like what you will see in this video.
One thing about the list of names people are rattling off: they won National Championships before going to the NFL. Jimmy Johnson, Pete Carroll, Jim Harbaugh. Regardless of circumstances, they won.
Coach Free doesn't have one yet. Times have changed and we know how great he is, how highly thought of he is, but he hasn't won a championship yet. I think that NFL GMs probably don't care about that, but my guess is that Coach Free does. I'm under the assumption he wants to win at Notre Dame first. I think he definitely can.
The Sugar/Orange Bowl wins were huge! But from a competitive guys standpoint (hopefully his), he hasn't really accomplished anything yet at ND that he's capable of.I think Freeman is too competitive to walk away feeling like he didn't finish the job. I'm not trying to be naïve or anything, but MF is competitive to a fault and I think he wants to win it all before he feels satisfied leaving. And, he's young enough that he could coach at ND for 15 years and still go to the NFL and coach for 20 if he wanted.
I think it be great to announce a mammoth extension about 5 mins before the game Friday night. Steal some thunder from the cfp, but I’m petty like that.It would be really swell to announce a mammoth extension and give an “I ain’t leaving” speech on Christmas Day.
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I feel the same way, but who the hell knows. Have to leave room open for anything to be able to happen at this pointI think Freeman is too competitive to walk away feeling like he didn't finish the job. I'm not trying to be naïve or anything, but MF is competitive to a fault and I think he wants to win it all before he feels satisfied leaving. And, he's young enough that he could coach at ND for 15 years and still go to the NFL and coach for 20 if he wanted.
I love this fire. I love this passion. I think all of us here love it. Now coach Free needs to get a complete season next year and finally put it together.
I love this fire. I love this passion. I think all of us here love it. Now coach Free needs to get a complete season next year and finally put it together.
Huh?If this is the same guy who benched Christian Gray due effort and then told the media it was due to injury, he's a colossal fraud.
Messages of accountability get real hollow, real quick when you display none yourself.
Who the fuck cares what he told the media. The team knows and that’s it.If this is the same guy who benched Christian Gray due effort and then told the media it was due to injury, he's a colossal fraud.
Messages of accountability get real hollow, real quick when you display none yourself.
When I'm evaluating someone's ability to lead, me. He has a specific leadership style that relies, in part, on his character and on trust.Who the fuck cares what he told the media. The team knows and that’s it.
It's in the Gray threadHuh?
He would have done more damage to the player by telling the media he was benched. He is protecting his player and allowing him a chance regain his composure. Who gives a shit what he says to the media.When I'm evaluating someone's ability to lead, me. He has a specific leadership style that relies, in part, on his character and on trust.
Try and see the forest, here
When you are preaching individual and group accountability every single day, but are selective with your own accountability to yourself and the team? That will eventually matter and will create questions about your sincerity.
It's in the Gray thread
You might just be insane.When I'm evaluating someone's ability to lead, me. He has a specific leadership style that relies, in part, on his character and on trust.
Try and see the forest, here
When you are preaching individual and group accountability every single day, but are selective with your own accountability to yourself and the team? That will eventually matter and will create questions about your sincerity.
It's in the Gray thread
Is that what happened or are you assuming?He would have done more damage to the player by telling the media he was benched. He is protecting his player and allowing him a chance regain his composure. Who gives a shit what he says to the media.
So 08 was rightSampson had a whole article about Freeman today, including if he'd leave for the NFL. Most of it was a nothing burger (gotta get clicks somehow now that we're not in the playoffs) - but the one nugget he snuck in is both sides expect a new deal signed by end of December.
I have heard the pods say there is a hiring freeze at ND right now. Maybe this could be part of itI'm a little surprised that an extension hasn't been announced yet. It leads me to think MK knows he holds all the chips and is using his leverage against ND (No shit...I know). But to play devils advocate, rolling contracts and yearly reviews seem dangerous. Ya, I get he is the hottest coach out there and Michigan or Penn St would take him in a minute and make him the highest paid coach in the game.
But when do you step back and say "hold on a minute" as everyone is willing to pay MF for what he is capable of doing...Not what he has done. I feel that ND taking a shot on a coach with no HC experience and putting him in position to be courted by every team pro or college should earn them some grace...no? As much as MF deserves credit, so does ND.
I guess the short question is what's the hold up?? We had a lights out team this year (way better than last year) that missed the playoffs, that gets some people fired.
if it was immediately announced that a player was stepping away from ND for mental health, then the player made that announcement (think Ziegler).Is that what happened or are you assuming?
We have seen multiple players sit for mental health or unspecified reasons without "injury" being the given reason. It would be widely out of the character/integrity shown for Freeman to do it with Gray.
If you are yelling at a bunch of intelligent young men to be accountable for their actions/decisions, embodying said principal(s) is important because integrity and credibility matter. He sets the tone, the culture, all that.
My entire point is that this man does not portrait himself as someone who would out and out lie when it wasn't "required". It's a compliment and imo a large reason the guy can influence in the way that he does