What a ND B1G schedule might look like

[condoms SUCk]

Jim Delany is POS crybaby b!tch, I would rather join the Sun Belt than give that motherf2cker the satisfaction of bringing ND to the B10.
If we HAD to join a conference then my choices would be
1). ACC
2). Any football conference (other than the B10)
3). ND drops the football program all together
4). Purgatory
5). He!!
6). B10

 

[DomeX2 eNVy]

My list of preference of conferences.

1.Independent
2. ACC
3. Big 12
4. Pac 12
5. Big East
6. MAC
7. MWC


8. SEC








9. Drop football program.













10. Join Big Ten

Swap the MWC with the MAC and I concur. lol

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

ACC please.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

I like seeing ND on NBC every Saturday, and not having to see the Big 10 unless I stumble upon ESPN3.

 

[greyhammer90]

Joining the big 10 would be the same as ND giving up in my eyes. If we join the B1G we are basically signing up to become Mich. St. (By that I mean a school that only a select fanbase in the midwest care about, that is constantly fighting for attention with other midwest programs among this limited fan base.) I'm not saying that if we join the B1G that we'll always have a mediocre team (though it would be harder to become elite again), but we will always have a mediocre program.

 

[phork]

I am quite certain that the Big10 ship has sailed. Ultimately if we have to jump aboard a conference I think its the ACC.

 

[enrico514]

Legends Division... what an aweful name!

Independent or if forced... ACC.

 

[OSU_Buckeyes]

Legends Division... what an aweful name!

Independent or if forced... ACC.

And Atlantic Division and Coastal Division are winners?

Tom Osborne said it best earlier today in an ESPN interview......

•Nebraska's first full year in the Big Ten has gone well according to Osborne, who called commissioner Jim Delany's leadership style "very inclusive." He added, " There are always concerns about individual needs, but I see a difference in what we experienced before [in the Big 12] in that people are willing to give a little, sacrifice a little, for the welfare of the whole. That bodes well." He called the Big Ten Network a major asset, particularly for recruiting.


I think that is what makes the Big Ten the best conference in the country - the fact that the welfare for the whole is always the #1 priority. Everyone is treated as an equal. Sure, there is smack talk among fans, but the B1G as a whole is a very cohesive unit and ND would be welcomed in with open arms, just as Nebraska was this past year.

 

[JD Irish]

If Notre Dame joined the SEC or the ACC, Notre Dame's commitment to academic excellence might take a hit when all the students start failing geography class, considering South Bend is neither in the Southeast or on the Atlantic coast.

The weirdest thing is that ND seems to think for some reason that it has some huge presence in the northeast and on the Atlantic coast. I'm from Boston, and when I was telling people that I was going to Notre Dame, not many had heard of it, and no one knew where it was located. The northeast is all about the ivies for college.

 

[JT_IRISH]

My list of preference of conferences.

1.Independent
2. ACC
3. Big 12
4. Pac 12
5. Big East
6. MAC
7. MWC


8. SEC








9. Drop football program.













10. Join Big Ten

Lmao

 

[Buster Bluth]

The weirdest thing is that ND seems to think for some reason that it has some huge presence in the northeast and on the Atlantic coast. I'm from Boston, and when I was telling people that I was going to Notre Dame, not many had heard of it, and no one knew where it was located. The northeast is all about the ivies for college.

I have a really, really hard time believing this.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Jim Delany is POS crybaby b!tch, I would rather join the Sun Belt than give that motherf2cker the satisfaction of bringing ND to the B10.

Jim Delaney is almost without question the best conference commissioner in the country. I don't care for the man, but he is good at what he does.

 

[JD Irish]

I have a really, really hard time believing this.

Well, it's certainly true, and it actually bothered me quite a bit when I was 17. My theory on it is that ND is most well-known for its football, and New England is not a college football place at all--the biggest programs in the entire region are Boston College and UConn-- not exactly powerhouses. So if you're from the northeast and you don't actively follow college football, which most don't there, you're not really going to hear ND's name too much. Even I really didn't know anything about ND before I started getting mail from them my junior year of high school. Maybe some other New England guys can chime in.

Anyway, I know it's just anecdotal, but that's pretty much why I think ND's leaning towards the ACC over the Big Ten is pretty absurd. Bigger markets don't necessarily mean bigger ND markets.

P.S. Buster over Gob, Tobias, Lindsay, Lucile, and George???

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

We also have to factor in revenue from the CIC - Committee for Institutional Cooperation. We are talking about millions and millions of dollars that goes towards academic research.

Honestly, we don't really care about that. Already have an enormous endowment, and since we aren't a large state research school, this point is almost completely moot.

 

[NDPhilly]

Rather drop down to d2

 

[greyhammer90]

The weirdest thing is that ND seems to think for some reason that it has some huge presence in the northeast and on the Atlantic coast. I'm from Boston, and when I was telling people that I was going to Notre Dame, not many had heard of it, and no one knew where it was located. The northeast is all about the ivies for college.

When was this? Sorry, but I have a hard time believing that in this day and age that there is almost anyone (who lives in mainstream society) that doesn't know about the University of Notre Dame, and that's not ND pride talking. Friends of mine in Florida know what San Jose State is, just like relatives of mine that live in Canada know what Baylor University is. I'm sure you're telling the truth, but if what your saying is true, then where you live might be the lowest area for ND recognition on the continent.

Edit: And my relatives from Canada are not CFB fans.

 

[GUknights75]

Isn't there an abundance of Irish Catholics in Mass.?

 

[ulukinatme]

From a geographical standpoint B1G makes sense, but it's not like we've ever done anything from a geographic standpoint. ACC makes more sense from an academics point of vew with some of the member schools (Certainly not all). I do enjoy hearing Big 10 whiners say that their brethren should just quit scheduling Notre Dame until they join the conference. Yeah, cause we need the Big 10 and who would they find that could draw more money? Maybe an SEC team, but they don't travel more than 10 miles from home.

 

[Irishnuke]

Nope

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

Well, it's certainly true, and it actually bothered me quite a bit when I was 17. My theory on it is that ND is most well-known for its football, and New England is not a college football place at all--the biggest programs in the entire region are Boston College and UConn-- not exactly powerhouses. So if you're from the northeast and you don't actively follow college football, which most don't there, you're not really going to hear ND's name too much. Even I really didn't know anything about ND before I started getting mail from them my junior year of high school. Maybe some other New England guys can chime in.

Anyway, I know it's just anecdotal, but that's pretty much why I think ND's leaning towards the ACC over the Big Ten is pretty absurd. Bigger markets don't necessarily mean bigger ND markets.

P.S. Buster over Gob, Tobias, Lindsay, Lucile, and George???

Irish Catholic Medford MA boy here. Your wrong. Next.

 

[JD Irish]

Irish Catholic Medford MA boy here. Your wrong. Next.

I'm not "wrong" -- I'm just sharing my experience, and like I said, it's anecdotal. I'm from Wilmington, so it probably makes more sense that people closer to the city would get more exposure to it. Also, I'm younger, and I'm guessing that older people in general would also hear the name more often. I'm not claiming to be authoritative here.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

I'm not "wrong" -- I'm just sharing my experience, and like I said, it's anecdotal. I'm from Wilmington, so it probably makes more sense that people closer to the city would get more exposure to it. Also, I'm younger, and I'm guessing that older people in general would also hear the name more often. I'm not claiming to be authoritative here.

It may be anecdotal in your experience. But having friends and family in that whole area from Nashua down to Burlington I would say your experience is outside of the norm. The difference is I'm guessing age wise we're probably about 6 to 9 years apart. I'm 30.
That would be the difference. I remember betting my best friend a Griffey Jr rookie card vs his Bird card on the 93 BC game. I miss that Griffey card.

 

[irishfan]

Agreed. I live about 30 mins north of Boston. Besides teenagers, everyone knows ND and knows where it is located. In fact, there is more of a ND contingent in my area than a BC one. In terms of my area, we would do quite well in the ACC.

 

[OSU_Buckeyes]

Something to consider with the ACC - other than Big East outcasts Syracuse, Pittsburgh, and Boston College, the ACC is primarily a southeastern US conference. Many of the ACC schools are also in SEC country. If the SEC expands to 16, it is likely to include more ACC territory --- such as V. Tech. If you have most of those states competing in the ACC and SEC, ND would essentially have to compete for recruits from both the ACC and SEC because they cross territories. They already cross in Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina. I'm sure V Tech would be a tarket if they go to 16.

The three northeast schools aren't even in the same division. Syracuse will be with Boston College, but Pittsburgh is going to be in the other division. That means you would only play 1 or 2 of those schools in a given year and the rest of your league games would be against southern schools. If the ACC had 16 teams, you would have to play at least 9 league games, leaving only 3 non-league games. If you only have 3 non-league games, which rivalries will you end because you have to choose between USC, Stanford, Navy, Michigan, Michigan State and Purdue. If you keep 3 of those 6, you still have no room on the schedule to play Army, Air Force, or any other random team you would like to schedule in any given year.

 

[FLDomer]

Why do the Big Ten fans argue for us to join their conference when all they do is slam ND and say how great of a conference they have, and how much revenue they gererate and how they have a the Almighty Big Ten Network, cash cow? If they are so wonderful and amazing and they continue to slam ND, why would you want ND to join... I really dont want to up our MAC school schedule every yr to keep pace with the rest of the Big Ten team's schedules.

 

[IrishLax]

I'm not "wrong" -- I'm just sharing my experience, and like I said, it's anecdotal. I'm from Wilmington, so it probably makes more sense that people closer to the city would get more exposure to it. Also, I'm younger, and I'm guessing that older people in general would also hear the name more often. I'm not claiming to be authoritative here.

Not in your anecdote necessarily, but you opened by saying that ND doesn't have a big presence on the Atlantic coast or northeast. That's the part that is wrong... and this isn't opinion, it's metrics.

Simply look at the TV ratings from east coast places like New York, DC, and Boston.... it plainly shows that you're wrong about the football fandom out there. The majority of ND viewership comes from the east coast and Chicago area.

 

[tadman95]

Something to consider with the ACC - other than Big East outcasts Syracuse, Pittsburgh, and Boston College, the ACC is primarily a southeastern US conference. Many of the ACC schools are also in SEC country. If the SEC expands to 16, it is likely to include more ACC territory --- such as V. Tech. If you have most of those states competing in the ACC and SEC, ND would essentially have to compete for recruits from both the ACC and SEC because they cross territories. They already cross in Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina. I'm sure V Tech would be a tarket if they go to 16.

The three northeast schools aren't even in the same division. Syracuse will be with Boston College, but Pittsburgh is going to be in the other division. That means you would only play 1 or 2 of those schools in a given year and the rest of your league games would be against southern schools. If the ACC had 16 teams, you would have to play at least 9 league games, leaving only 3 non-league games. If you only have 3 non-league games, which rivalries will you end because you have to choose between USC, Stanford, Navy, Michigan, Michigan State and Purdue. If you keep 3 of those 6, you still have no room on the schedule to play Army, Air Force, or any other random team you would like to schedule in any given year.

Va Tech may be a target but the likely hood of that happening is very, very small. There was too much effort to get VA Tech in the ACC by the state officials, I don't think Tech would be interested nor would be allowed to leave by the state officials.

 

[greyhammer90]

Something to consider with the ACC - other than Big East outcasts Syracuse, Pittsburgh, and Boston College, the ACC is primarily a southeastern US conference. Many of the ACC schools are also in SEC country. If the SEC expands to 16, it is likely to include more ACC territory --- such as V. Tech. If you have most of those states competing in the ACC and SEC, ND would essentially have to compete for recruits from both the ACC and SEC because they cross territories. They already cross in Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina. I'm sure V Tech would be a tarket if they go to 16.

The three northeast schools aren't even in the same division. Syracuse will be with Boston College, but Pittsburgh is going to be in the other division. That means you would only play 1 or 2 of those schools in a given year and the rest of your league games would be against southern schools. If the ACC had 16 teams, you would have to play at least 9 league games, leaving only 3 non-league games. If you only have 3 non-league games, which rivalries will you end because you have to choose between USC, Stanford, Navy, Michigan, Michigan State and Purdue. If you keep 3 of those 6, you still have no room on the schedule to play Army, Air Force, or any other random team you would like to schedule in any given year.

First of all we already recruit nationally. We'd still get our guys from the midwest due to the geographic area and a move to the ACC would probably improve our recruiting in the southeast. We'd continue to have a presence in the North East due to the ACC having teams like BC and Pitt for us to play (beat) once every few years. All in all, a move to the ACC might be a positive for us in recruiting.
Secondly we will always play USC (for west coast recruiting and because f*ck them) and Navy (every ND fan knows why). Every other "rival" is secondary. If we only had 3 non-conference games we'd probably go with Michigan when we could. But if we can't continue that game (or if Michigan just decides to back out again when we start beating them regularly) we'll put in a fill in game. It's not like programs don't like scheduling us. Who hates money?

 

[Irish Houstonian]

I would take Miami and/or Florida State on the schedule in exchange for Michigan/Michigan St. any day. But that's just me. Enough with the Rust Belt.

 

[Black Irish]

Rather drop down to d2

Hey, maybe we'll starting winning some championships.

Kidding, kidding. Still keeping the faith on the Irish return to BCS glory.