NCAA Tournament: No. 10 Xavier vs. No. 7 Notre Dame

military_irish

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The thing about the lane violation, is that it happens all the time. The refs just choose when they want to call it. Pretty much sucks.

Won't ruin my night though. This squad should be very good next year. (I hate that phrase though)
 

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Lane Violations

Lane Violations

Why are refs making this great point on lane violations in the NCAA tournament. Where has this been all season.
 

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I like how Kellogg says "the rule states you can't break the 3-point line until the ball is released" then shows the replay where the ball is clearly out of his hand and Grant is still behind the line, and then Kellogg says "yup, right call"....what the hell is the rule then?

Guys behind the three-point line have the same rule as the shooter - they can't cross the line until the ball hits the rim.
 

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YEs you can if you get beat by the other team ok but not when you beat yourself.

The way I see it is "they were playing with house money". I'm not going to get mad, it sucks it really sucks but good things are in the future for this team.
 

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I mean... do you blame the coach for two incomprehensible mental errors at the end of that game? Can you coach that kind of crap out of kids?

I've never seen a team chuck the ball out of bounds in a situation where a player is running up to foul the ball carrier.... with a lead and ~30 seconds to play.

I've also never seen a situation where, shooting for the tie with a 70%+ FT shooter on the line, someone commits a lane violation. Especially when that highly publicized incident happened with UNC Asheville?

Just so disappointed right now I'm not even mad.
 

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Also... 44% FT shooting? Missing the front end of 1-and-1s? Come on guys.
 

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Barkley hates the call too. That is ridiculous that it cost us a chance to win.

Call it if the player misses the shot. If the ball goes through the net on a dead ball play, Grant's movement is irrelevant.
 

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I mean... do you blame the coach for two incomprehensible mental errors at the end of that game? Can you coach that kind of crap out of kids?

I've never seen a team chuck the ball out of bounds in a situation where a player is running up to foul the ball carrier.... with a lead and ~30 seconds to play.

I've also never seen a situation where, shooting for the tie with a 70%+ FT shooter on the line, someone commits a lane violation. Especially when that highly publicized incident happened with UNC Asheville?

Just so disappointed right now I'm not even mad.

I don't blame Brey for the stupid mistakes. But he has to be held culpable when they blow an 11-point second half lead.
 

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I mean... do you blame the coach for two incomprehensible mental errors at the end of that game? Can you coach that kind of crap out of kids?

I've never seen a team chuck the ball out of bounds in a situation where a player is running up to foul the ball carrier.... with a lead and ~30 seconds to play.

I've also never seen a situation where, shooting for the tie with a 70%+ FT shooter on the line, someone commits a lane violation. Especially when that highly publicized incident happened with UNC Asheville?

Just so disappointed right now I'm not even mad.

Completely agree. Too much blame on coaches in college sports. Why Atkins made that pass no one will ever understand. Just sad, this team might have been playing with house money, but there was a real, real possibility of a sweet sixth teen birth this year. Oh well... just another day for a ND sports fan
 
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Just saw who is coming back for ND. Damn, the state of Indiana are going to have some great teams next year. This game was a bummer. I can't believe they made that call, but it was the right one. Cooley had a hell of a game, and he did great on that disgusting ogre Frease.
 

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And no ref should call that lane violation. That was absolute horse$hit. Whatever. Not like the result is surprising. And at least scUM lost.
 

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there were so many things that can be pointed to as the cause of tonight's loss. poor FT shooting, guards unable to stop ball penetration and really bad decision making at the end. the one play that i can't forgive is grant's 3 attempt after a TO knowing that a 2 would win it! SMH

GO IRISH!!!
 

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Barkley hates the call too. That is ridiculous that it cost us a chance to win.

Call it if the player misses the shot. If the ball goes through the net on a dead ball play, Grant's movement is irrelevant.

This.
 

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there were so many things that can be pointed to as the cause of tonight's loss. poor FT shooting, guards unable to stop ball penetration and really bad decision making at the end. the one play that i can't forgive is grant's 3 attempt after a TO knowing that a 2 would win it! SMH

GO IRISH!!!

I'm more than fine with Grant taking a wide open three early when trailing...take the first good look you have so that if you miss it...you can play the foul game
 

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We are going to be very good next year. Cooley sputtered at the end of the Year do to how many minute he plaid.

Next Years Rotation:
Atkins
Grant
Connaughton
Martin
Cooley

Biedschied
Sherman
Dragecevich
Auguste
Knight

If Abromaitis comes back we are a top 10 team. Without him probably top 15 still.
 

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We are going to be very good next year. Cooley sputtered at the end of the Year do to how many minute he plaid.

Next Years Rotation:
Atkins
Grant
Connaughton
Martin
Cooley

Biedschied
Sherman
Dragecevich
Auguste
Knight

If Abromaitis comes back we are a top 10 team. Without him probably top 15 still.

I'll bet every vbuck I have that they lose in the first two rounds.
 

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Doug Gottlieb just applauded both the lane violation and flagrant foul at the end of the game. Naturally Gottlieb would, go steal another credit card Gottlieb. Ya piece of s***.
 
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Wow. Where can I start after that cluster of a game. I will say this only. An absolute choke job. 10 point lead and then blunder it away with turnovers/bad defense / and horrible shooting

A total choke job. Very embarrassing.
 

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If Abromaitis comes back we are a top 10 team. Without him probably top 15 still.

I respect that, but I really think we all could care less about what we're ranked as long as we don't underachieve when it comes to the Tourney...I mean we seriously need to make a Sweet 16 run next year in order for it to be a successful year given the squad we'll have...
 

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Brey's speech to the team after the game(verbatim):
"Guys you gave it your all...but just remember the good old Notre Dame tradition...there's always next year!"
 

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Doug Gottlieb just applauded both the lane violation and flagrant foul at the end of the game. Naturally Gottlieb would, go steal another credit card Gottlieb. Ya piece of s***.

Gotta give him credit for sticking with his agenda.


See what I did there?
 

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That was a fantastic game. The lane violation at the end of the game was bullshit. You guys will be GREAT next year and Xavier will be lucky to get in the tourney. Good luck in the future and I will check back in come football season. Go ND!
 

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If only we could have won this game and beat 15th seed Lehigh to make the sweet 16. The momentum would have carried over soo strongly to next years team. Oh well. Maybe theyll want it more.
 

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I really think the worst part is how great of a draw we got. I told you all Duke was quite beatable... and we didn't even have to do the dirty work ourselves. Freaking Lehigh took care of them. We were going to get to play a freaking 15 seed. Xavier was probably more of an 11 or 12 seed than a 10 seed and we played well enough to win (51% from the field, 43% from 3). We would've needed a little luck to get by Baylor and Michigan State but neither of those teams were a Kentucky or UNC in terms of sheer talent.

Oh well. Officially on to lacrosse season............
 

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Doug Gottlieb just applauded both the lane violation and flagrant foul at the end of the game. Naturally Gottlieb would, go steal another credit card Gottlieb. Ya piece of s***.

How was he able to clap with sporting goods in one hand and a stolen credit card in the other.

Stay Spiece-y, Gottlieb.
 

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The only thing I'm mad about is ref after game said it was a obvious lane violation. It might have been but I guarantee the same thing happens 5+ times in this game and every game in the tourney yet it is not called. Going by the rule book how is cooleys foul flagarant? Debatable if it is even a foul at all much less second worst below an ejection

Also since this ref loves the rule book when are we gonna start calling more overturning and other minor penalties
 

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The only thing I'm mad about is ref after game said it was a obvious lane violation. It might have been but I guarantee the same thing happens 5+ times in this game and every game in the tourney yet it is not called. Going by the rule book how is cooleys foul flagarant? Debatable if it is even a foul at all much less second worst below an ejection

Also since this ref loves the rule book when are we gonna start calling more overturning and other minor penalties

Agreed, I will put all my money on the fact that, that same lane violation happens in EVERY game but is never called. It is left to the ref to judge, which they rarely do unless they want to. Apparently this ref wanted to.

It is sad, really sad.
 
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