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Call me crazy - but I would hope that the coaching staff's acceptance of Yuri would have a clause: no Tweeting or Facebooking unless it his been appoved by an intern of the staff. And for all those 1st amendment people, he is taking the scholarship to play at ND on his own free will... D need to protect itself and it's teams first and foremost.
 

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I guess I am not like most people on this board. I do not think he deserves a second, third, fourth...chance. He reportedly got warned several times to get off twitter and yet he is still on there. I know football is important and all, but I rather go 8-5 every year and have high quality student-athletes on team, rather than having people that say or do absurd things that can hurt the university.

We've had that for 15 years... He's quoting the most popular rapper 90% of the time. Give him a chance and ban twitter.
 

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Responding to a short exchange at the top of previous page---Re: next year. My discipline on keeping up with this as regards future flow has slipped behind Whiskey's in the last months, but I still have some, hopefully not lunatic, ideas.

A). I'm going to assume that we don't have a rash of transfers, and that our scholarship availability is around 16;

B). With only two O-Line this year [but five last] we still need serious O-Line addition. That to me means four --- even with the diminished scholarship pool. That would give Hiestand 3+5+2+4= 16 to work with, which is theoretical optimum. This leaves 12 offers only to go;

C). We passed on TE and Kelly always takes a QB. Two more scholarships, and we're down to 10 left.

D). I say Kelly takes two wides and passes on RB, but this is a highly debatable opinion. Kelly's offense thrives on receivers, and he will not starve himself there. We DO have a lot of potential RBs [of GREAT potential in fact] and he might just pass and go 8-offense, 8-defense.

E). 8 left for defense. where do they go? In a 3-4-4 the "statistics" would say: 2 D-Line, 3 LB, and 3 DB. I could see a strategy of getting the two D-Line and two of each other category, and then hard-fishing for the Best-Available-Studs regardless of defensive position. I might interject the unpleasant concept of Brindza NOT turning out to be able to handle both kicking chores, which has been the plan.

F). some energetic youngster might be able to inform us old tired and young lazy folks more about potential 2013 war room strategy by analyzing who Kelly has already offered &/or shown extra interest in. By looking at the relative numbers of offers in positions, it can possibly hint at war room leanings.
 
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I guess I am not like most people on this board. I do not think he deserves a second, third, fourth...chance. He reportedly got warned several times to get off twitter and yet he is still on there. I know football is important and all, but I rather go 8-5 every year and have high quality student-athletes on team, rather than having people that say or do absurd things that can hurt the university.

Link? His twitter was private, so I don't know who would be the ones warning him. I said it once and I will say it again, if you don't think kids on our own team talk like this, you are sadly mistaken. We have plenty of guys that used to exhibit poor language on their twitter accounts, and I wasn't going to bring this up, but we even have a player that was accused of sexual assault still playing on our team. I'm not saying that we should tolerate bad behavior on our team, but every situation has elements to it that you dont know about unless you are close to it. Which none of you are, regardless of how much reading you do on message boards.

Furthermore, Yuri doesn't owe any of you anything. If he were a member of our team, then I am sure that he would apologize for embarrassing Notre Dame. But right now he is just an 18 year old kid that is laying low. I highly doubt that any of the coaches which haven't pulled offers want him saying a damn word. Not a word about anything, because the longer there is news about this, the longer people like the two of you will attack his character. Even though neither of you know a damn thing about Yuri as a person or what is going on in his life.
 

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Link? His twitter was private, so I don't know who would be the ones warning him. I said it once and I will say it again, if you don't think kids on our own team talk like this, you are sadly mistaken. We have plenty of guys that used to exhibit poor language on their twitter accounts, and I wasn't going to bring this up, but we even have a player that was accused of sexual assault still playing on our team. I'm not saying that we should tolerate bad behavior on our team, but every situation has elements to it that you dont know about unless you are close to it. Which none of you are, regardless of how much reading you do on message boards.

Furthermore, Yuri doesn't owe any of you anything. If he were a member of our team, then I am sure that he would apologize for embarrassing Notre Dame. But right now he is just an 18 year old kid that is laying low. I highly doubt that any of the coaches which haven't pulled offers want him saying a damn word. Not a word about anything, because the longer there is news about this, the longer people like the two of you will attack his character. Even though neither of you know a damn thing about Yuri as a person or what is going on in his life.

I never claimed to know anything about Yuri. I was just commenting on subject of Notre Dame should give him a second chance. I for one, do not think that Notre Dame should continue to recruit him. It is my opinion, but I am glad that you come in bashing people for having an opinion. I am not bashing him as a person but he made a mistake and there are consequences.
 

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I never claimed to know anything about Yuri. I was just commenting on subject of Notre Dame should give him a second chance. I for one, do not think that Notre Dame should continue to recruit him. It is my opinion, but I am glad that you come in bashing people for having an opinion. I am not bashing him as a person but he made a mistake and there are consequences.

He's quoting a rapper. He's fine, hopefully ND realizes this and gets him.
 

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I guess I am not like most people on this board. I do not think he deserves a second, third, fourth...chance. He reportedly got warned several times to get off twitter and yet he is still on there. I know football is important and all, but I rather go 8-5 every year and have high quality student-athletes on team, rather than having people that say or do absurd things that can hurt the university.

I never claimed to know anything about Yuri. I was just commenting on subject of Notre Dame should give him a second chance. I for one, do not think that Notre Dame should continue to recruit him. It is my opinion, but I am glad that you come in bashing people for having an opinion. I am not bashing him as a person but he made a mistake and there are consequences.

Although, you did imply that Yuri was not a "high-quality student-athlete(s)" with your original post. Be careful what you say and how you say it on here, or people will quote you.

Also, I am quite sure, starting your post by setting a distinct difference between yourself and the others on the board did not help in deterring what you perceive as a negative response.
 
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I would like to remind everyone that ND is the school that turned Floyd around from the DUIs and underaged drinking and turned him into a great teammate and leader. I think this university and coaching staff is the best at molding boys into men and they can very well do this with Yuri.
 

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He's quoting a rapper. He's fine, hopefully ND realizes this and gets him.

Why does that even matter? He was writing highly inappropriate things on his Twitter... I don't care if Pope Benedict said them. They are still disgusting and embarrassing for whatever institution he represents.

And it really doesn't matter that it's private... he is a nationally recognized recruit and had thousands of followers. He should have realized (especially after several warnings) that when you are under the microscope of a top HS recruit, your privacy is sacrificed. Just like how recruiters at Fortune 500 companies screen applicants for their Facebook pictures. This may sound harsh but he is either really stupid or he is not a "RKG."

Either way, ND shouldn't take him. Most of us here are well educated, went to pretty good schools, and are aware of how hard we had to work to go to those schools. I have no idea why anyone would ever want their school to take someone like Wright over a guy like Standifer who by all accounts seems like a better fit at ND. Wright will be alright too; Rutgers is a fine school. It's not ND by any stretch of the imagination, but that's the price you pay when you continually say inappropriate and self-absorbed comments on a national stage.


No reason to flame me here, but that's my opinion on the matter.
 

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I never claimed to know anything about Yuri. I was just commenting on subject of Notre Dame should give him a second chance. I for one, do not think that Notre Dame should continue to recruit him. It is my opinion, but I am glad that you come in bashing people for having an opinion. I am not bashing him as a person but he made a mistake and there are consequences.

I'm bashing you because you are on here publicly degrading an 18 year old kid claiming that he was warned repeatedly when you have zero sources confirming it. You are on here degrading a young man's character and hoping that the university we both love take away his opportunity to better his life because of some tweets that you not only do not understand the scope of, but fail to acknowledge the fact that there are plenty of guys currently on our team that have said similar things, but simply have not been caught. You have no idea what it is like to be a poor, young black kid in today's society. You have no idea the hard work this kid has gone through to get where he is today. But you, and many like you, have no problem ripping his dream from him because you find some f#cking tweets he wrote offensive. Give me a break.

But I am sure that one day, when your kid says something offensive at school, you will be mortified that people who have never even met him/her make broad character assassinations on them without actually understanding the situation it took place in. All the while, hoping that they get whatever opportunities they have earned taken from them because of it. Maybe you will understand Yuri then...
 

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I'm bashing you because you are on here publicly degrading an 18 year old kid claiming that he was warned repeatedly when you have zero sources confirming it. You are on here degrading a young man's character and hoping that the university we both love take away his opportunity to better his life because of some tweets that you not only do not understand the scope of, but fail to acknowledge the fact that there are plenty of guys currently on our team that have said similar things, but simply have not been caught. You have no idea what it is like to be a poor, young black kid in today's society. You have no idea the hard work this kid has gone through to get where he is today. But you, and many like you, have no problem ripping his dream from him because you find some f#cking tweets he wrote offensive. Give me a break.

But I am sure that one day, when your kid says something offensive at school, you will be mortified that people who have never even met him/her make broad character assassinations on them without actually understanding the situation it took place in. All the while, hoping that they get whatever opportunities they have earned taken from them because of it. Maybe you will understand Yuri then...

On my feet applauding. Well said.
 

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I'm bashing you because you are on here publicly degrading an 18 year old kid claiming that he was warned repeatedly when you have zero sources confirming it. You are on here degrading a young man's character and hoping that the university we both love take away his opportunity to better his life because of some tweets that you not only do not understand the scope of, but fail to acknowledge the fact that there are plenty of guys currently on our team that have said similar things, but simply have not been caught. You have no idea what it is like to be a poor, young black kid in today's society. You have no idea the hard work this kid has gone through to get where he is today. But you, and many like you, have no problem ripping his dream from him because you find some f#cking tweets he wrote offensive. Give me a break.

But I am sure that one day, when your kid says something offensive at school, you will be mortified that people who have never even met him/her make broad character assassinations on them without actually understanding the situation it took place in. All the while, hoping that they get whatever opportunities they have earned taken from them because of it. Maybe you will understand Yuri then...

Yuri Wright's Twitter posts may cost him college scholarship - ESPN

"We told them about 10 or 15 times to get off (Twitter) and not to be involved in it, but there is always somebody who thinks he knows better." Toal told ESPNNewYork.com. "What he wrote was pretty bad, to be honest with you, I can't even say what he wrote.

"He was told on numerous occasions not to be Twittering and there are consequences for his actions."
 

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Why does that even matter? He was writing highly inappropriate things on his Twitter... I don't care if Pope Benedict said them. They are still disgusting and embarrassing for whatever institution he represents.

Do you want DaVaris kicked off of the team? Because on his site (I forgot what it was called, pretty much twitter) he used tons of profane language, quoted obscene rap lyrics and objectified women. Put your money where your mouth is... DO YOU WANT HIM KICKED OFF OF THE TEAM?

And it really doesn't matter that it's private... he is a nationally recognized recruit and had thousands of followers. He should have realized (especially after several warnings) that when you are under the microscope of a top HS recruit, your privacy is sacrificed. Just like how recruiters at Fortune 500 companies screen applicants for their Facebook pictures. This may sound harsh but he is either really stupid or he is not a "RKG."

It's deleted now, but he didn't have "thousands" of followers. I believe he had around 1,000. Most of which, were fans.

Either way, ND shouldn't take him. Most of us here are well educated, went to pretty good schools, and are aware of how hard we had to work to go to those schools. I have no idea why anyone would ever want their school to take someone like Wright over a guy like Standifer who by all accounts seems like a better fit at ND. Wright will be alright too; Rutgers is a fine school. It's not ND by any stretch of the imagination, but that's the price you pay when you continually say inappropriate and self-absorbed comments on a national stage.


No reason to flame me here, but that's my opinion on the matter.

You dont know the first damn thing about this kid. He was attending one of the best private catholic schools in the country. He was getting good grades and staying out of trouble. But he didn't get there because his parents were rich, white and well connected. He got there because he used his athletic skills to achieve the highest level of achievement he could. He is a poor, black kid with zero parental support. He is scratching for every inch to achieve the American dream while people like you and I get to actually live it. So yeah... most of us are well educated, but you are the one that has no idea how hard that can be to achieve.
 
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Yuri Wright's Twitter posts may cost him college scholarship - ESPN

"We told them about 10 or 15 times to get off (Twitter) and not to be involved in it, but there is always somebody who thinks he knows better." Toal told ESPNNewYork.com. "What he wrote was pretty bad, to be honest with you, I can't even say what he wrote.

"He was told on numerous occasions not to be Twittering and there are consequences for his actions."

So you dont think Toal could have just quit playing him if that is the case? So he warned him but had no problem playing him?

If you think this is actually what happened and that Don Bosco didn't just throw this kid under the bus than I have a bridge I would like to sell you.
 

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So you dont think Toal could have just quit playing him if that is the case? So he warned him but had no problem playing him?

If you think this is actually what happened and that Don Bosco didn't just throw this kid under the bus than I have a bridge I would like to sell you.

edit - MR7183, please take a look at my post responding to you on the previous page.
 

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Just posted on Facebook,

"I NO LONGER OWN ACCOUNT I DON'T UNDER WHY PEOPLE ARE MAKING PAGES....."

So that Twitter is fake.
 
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The twitter? I agree. The recruit? No, he is the 4th best corner in the class.

Let's wait and see what happened.

Yes the Twitter. I see lots of back and forth over something stupid that doesn't need to have any back and forth to it at all.

BREAKING NEWS: An 18 year old kid said something stupid! I'm shocked! Stunned! OMG!
 

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Do you want DaVaris kicked off of the team? Because on his site (I forgot what it was called, pretty much twitter) he used tons of profane language, quoted obscene rap lyrics and objectified women. Put your money where your mouth is... DO YOU WANT HIM KICKED OFF OF THE TEAM?



It's deleted now, but he didn't have "thousands" of followers. I believe he had around 1,000. Most of which, were fans.



You dont know the first damn thing about this kid. He was attending one of the best private catholic schools in the country. He was getting good grades and staying out of trouble. But he didn't get there because his parents were rich, white and well connected. He got there because he used his athletic skills to achieve the highest level of achievement he could. He is a poor, black kid with zero parental support. He is scratching for every inch to achieve the American dream while people like you and I get to actually live it. So yeah... most of us are well educated, but you are the one that has no idea how hard that can be to achieve.

I'll address each of your points 1 by 1:

Should DaVaris be kicked off the team? Absolutely not. Most elite academic institutions are the hardest to get into and the easiest to graduate from. This means that once you are in the ND family, almost all issues will be addressed in house and handled appropriately. But that doesn't mean that ND should ignore the obvious character issues that are in play here when offering scholarships. We strive to get the absolute best student athletes. Yuri got into fights at practices, continually made questionable comments on Twitter, and was expelled from school (whether that is fair or not is another topic). I'm not saying he's a terrible kid, but it's not the type of kid that Kelly said he was going to recruit. Period.

The exact number of followers he had is irrelevant. He was a public presence and was warned about it repeatedly.


It really doesn't matter what I don't know about Yuri. All that matters is what I DO know. You think college adcoms and hiring teams aren't screening applicants on Twitter and Facebook? It's unfortunate for Yuri, but that is the nature of the game. To go to a school like ND, you have to demonstrate excellence in a phases. Again, Yuri will be fine. His "American dream" isn't ruined just because he might not go to ND.

Finally, you literally have no idea how hard I've worked throughout my life to achieve my education. That statement is more ignorant than anything previously said in this topic.


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Finally, you literally have no idea how hard I've worked throughout my life to achieve my education. That statement is more ignorant than anything previously said in this topic.


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Take your hard earned education and learn to let go of a subject. Seriously consider what you are wasting your energy on. Move on to something more constructive.
 

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Since Yuri's thread has been closed twice for these kind of discussions, and we've totally hijacked a really good thread, can we just sleep on it tonight? We'll know how it all shakes it in a few days.

Don't mean to sound bossy....
 

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Take your hard earned education and learn to let go of a subject. Seriously consider what you are wasting your energy on. Move on to something more constructive.

It's a discussion board; I'm giving my opinion. Trust me, I'm not going to lose sleep if ND takes Yuri. It's just the wrong decision IMO.


Also, I think most of you would be singing a different tune if Yuri was a 3* recruit instead of one of the top corner prospects in the country.


This is my last post on the subject. Agree to disagree. Go Irish.
 
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It's a discussion board; I'm giving my opinion. Trust me, I'm not going to lose sleep if ND takes Yuri. It's just the wrong decision IMO.


Also, I think most of you would be singing a different tune if Yuri was a 3* recruit instead of one of the top corner prospects in the country.


This is my last post on the subject. Agree to disagree. Go Irish.

Really? Here's my opinion:

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I think Standifer is the next commit. And you whiny bitches should get a room. Or get some boxing gloves and get in the ring.
 
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