Notre Dame will host Rice in 2014

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Sherm Sticky said:
This is cool. Rice is a great school. They also fit the mold of Wake Forest, Tulsa and Northwestern type of school.
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Tulsa? They seem like the odd one in that listing.

I'm with lax on this. Let's have a schedule of Wake, NW, Duke, Stanford, Vandy, UVA, USC, UM, UCLA, and any three of the following Rice, BYU, BC, GT, Wisconsin, PSU, UWashington.

Vandy actually wanted to form a conference a long time ago of Ivy-like southern schools: Rice, Wake, Duke, SMU, Tulane, and Emory.
 
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Whiskeyjack said:
Love this move. More please.

It's great that ND has never played a FCS opponent, and I'd like to see that trend continue. But 2012's schedule is simply stupid; we'll never see a NC again if that keeps up.

We need to be scheduling Rice, Akron, Central Michigan, etc. like the SEC schedules FCS teams.
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It really doesnt look that bad. USC, Stanford, Michigan St, and Oklahoma will be breaking in new quarterbacks. BYU, Navy, Purdue, Pitt, BC, and Wake wont be as tough IMO
 
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NCDomer said:
Tulsa? They seem like the odd one in that listing.

I'm with lax on this. Let's have a schedule of Wake, NW, Duke, Stanford, Vandy, UVA, USC, UM, UCLA, and any three of the following Rice, BYU, BC, GT, Wisconsin, PSU, UWashington.

Vandy actually wanted to form a conference a long time ago of Ivy-like southern schools: Rice, Wake, Duke, SMU, Tulane, and Emory.
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Tulsa is actually a pretty good academic school. The reason why we played them last year is they are a small school in enrollment, actually the smallest in D-1 FBS. The reason ND played them last year and Wake this year is the AD wanted to play similar schools to ND in enrollment and academic standards. So to answer your statement Tulsa fits the bill.
 
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Some people won't be satisfied until our schedule is:
Alabama
LSU
Georgia
Oklahoma
Texas
Green Bay packers
Michigan
USC
Boise State
Navy
Houston
New England Patriots
and play a bowl game against the winner of the Super Bowl

They would probably be ......off because we played Navy.
 
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Our 2014 schedule is honestly pretty weak. I hope we add at least someone MSUs level for the final spot.
 
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Yes said:
A little off topic, but isn't ND and USC the only FBS (DI-A) schools not to play an FCS (DI-AA) school?
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Yes, and ND hasn't played that caliber of opponent since the 30's. How many wins have Florida, Alabama and the like rolled up such inferior competition in the last 8 decades?

Nor has ND played the phoney Div 1A teams that jumped up from Div 1AA only to get buyout checks from the SEC to make their bottom feeders bowl eligible.
 
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NDPhilly said:
Per ESPN

Right now, the 2014 schedule has a tentative lineup with Purdue (Sept. 13), Michigan (Sept. 20) and Syracuse (Sept. 27), meaning an opening date on Sept. 6 could be filled with the Owls.
Also tentatively on the schedule are at Temple (Oct. 11), at Arizona State (Oct. 25), Pitt (Nov. 8), Northwestern (Nov. 15) and at USC (Nov. 29). Dates for Stanford and Navy are still to be determined.
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Nice pick-up!
 
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Sherm Sticky said:
Tulsa is actually a pretty good academic school. The reason why we played them last year is they are a small school in enrollment, actually the smallest in D-1 FBS. The reason ND played them last year and Wake this year is the AD wanted to play similar schools to ND in enrollment and academic standards. So to answer your statement Tulsa fits the bill.
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I was looking at academics alone. Tulsa is ranked 75 while Rice, ND, and Wake rank in the top 25. That's a pretty big difference. It doesn't mean Tulsa still isn't a good school; it's just not of the same caliber.

Just consider that the ACC has 10 teams with a better ranking, only FSU and NCState (both at #101) are worse. The B10 has 10 teams ranked the same or higher.
 
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Yes, and ND hasn't played that caliber of opponent since the 30's. How many wins have Florida, Alabama and the like rolled up such inferior competition in the last 8 decades?

Nor has ND played the phoney Div 1A teams that jumped up from Div 1AA only to get buyout checks from the SEC to make their bottom feeders bowl eligible.
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Yeah the SEC has made their living off killing terrible teams. Making their conference look better top to bottom because they feast on three "gimmes" a year. This is exactly why I have so much respect for this year's LSU team. Les Miles will take that team anywhere, against anyone. IMHO, they played one true cupcake this year (Northwestern St., might give you Western Kentucky if you made a great argument, but they did go 7-1 in their conference and were within 5 points of winning it) sandwiched between first game neutral field against Oregon and @ Miss. State who was ranked at the time.
 
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irishff1014 said:
I was surprised to see that Rice is division one.
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Rice always has been in the Major football division since that designation started in 1937. 2012 will mark their 100th year of Major college football. They were in the Southwest Conference (and its predecessor from 1913) for over 8 decades. When the SWC imploded over NCAA sanctions, Rice was one of only 3 schools not sanctioned, Rice moved on to the WAC, then A10, and finally Conf USA.

It suffers with some of the same constraints ND has in pursuing big time college athletics: private school, small student body (about 1/3 of ND's), high academic rating, and high graduation rates.
 
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When Rice was a good football team way back when they had to resort to a gimmick to allow them to have enough top athletes. The gimmick was a special program within the university that rewarded the graduates with a different degree than the regular students got. This of course wouldn't fly once the NCAA began its reign of policing such stuff [to be fair, I don't know whether Rice ended this on their own or were forced to]. Without this shadow degree program, it was too tough for Rice to compete with the other Texas schools having much lower standards, and you have today what you see.
 
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arrowryan said:
It really doesnt look that bad. USC, Stanford, Michigan St, and Oklahoma will be breaking in new quarterbacks. BYU, Navy, Purdue, Pitt, BC, and Wake wont be as tough IMO
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Yea, that Barkley kid will need a lot of breaking in next year.
 
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Call me a masochist, but I like the fact that ND's schedule is tougher than average for 2012. We didn't have a cupcake schedule this year, but it wasn't a killer either. Taking on some tougher opponents is good for the school's rep and good for recruiting. Sometimes raising the bar is the only way to get guys to play their best.
 
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Rice
MSU
Purdue (Sept. 13)
Michigan (Sept. 20)
Syracuse (Sept. 27)
at Temple (Oct. 11)
Stanford
at Arizona State (Oct. 25)
Navy
Pitt (Nov. 8)
Northwestern (Nov. 15)
at USC (Nov. 29)

2014 is a long time away, but I love this schedule.
 
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