'12 IN QB Gunner Kiel (Cincinnati Transfer)

[Kingbish01]

I would bet money we get him. I am pretty confident. Nothing more than a hunch though. In the rare chance we don't land him, I would say he goes to Michigan.

 

[Grahambo]

I would bet money we get him. I am pretty confident. Nothing more than a hunch though. In the rare chance we don't land him, I would say he goes to Michigan.

I doubt Michigan because of Shane Morris.

 

[Kingbish01]

I doubt Michigan because of Shane Morris.

I know thats why I think safe money is ND right now. Mich has S.Morris, Bama has A. Morris and Okla has T. Knight. All no doubt would make room for him, just don't see him leaving the area. ND or Mich as I see it.

 

[koonja]

The only team I could see him going to besides ND is Alabama. Is he visiting there for the LSU game? That could be the one game-day atmosphere that beats USC vs ND this year.

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

The only team I could see him going to besides ND is Alabama. Is he visiting there for the LSU game? That could be the one game-day atmosphere that beats USC vs ND this year.

I am more worried about OU. Just a hunch.

 

[Irish Fam]

I think Bama ends up with Winston and we get Gunner.
I guess Oklahoma could be a contender, but it seems like they have moved on.

 

[Kingbish01]

I think Bama ends up with Winston and we get Gunner.

I agree. Than may the best man win the QB competition between Gunner and Golson (sorry Tommy) and BANG we have a gamer and a BK guy at the helm of the offense!

 

[NDdomer2]

Didn't Gunner say earlier in his recruiting that he was not going to go to a school that was taking another QB in the same class. If that is still the case Alabama and Oklahoma are not options.

 

[koonja]

Didn't Gunner say earlier in his recruiting that he was not going to go to a school that was taking another QB in the same class. If that is still the case Alabama and Oklahoma are not options.

I don't know if he said that but the two QBs those teams have committed are both 3-stars. I'm sure he's not too worried.

 

[NDdomer2]

Gunner Kiel talks recruiting - ESPN

As always not a lot of info from Kiel. Says he won't go to a team that already has a quarterback (we're still in it!--no w'ere not), so does that rule Oklahoma out?

No mention of Notre Dame in the article, but he talks about Indiana. He's going to Indiana.

He did say it.

 

[GBdomer]

He did say it.

article is from July 19th. smh.

 

[NDdomer2]

I never claimed he said it recently. And clearly it mattered, he did choose IU. We don't know if he still feels that way or not.

 

[rocket66]

Well obviously he doesn't feel the same way he did then, because, you know, he is no longer committed there.

 

[irishog77]

Didn't Gunner say earlier in his recruiting that he was not going to go to a school that was taking another QB in the same class. If that is still the case Alabama and Oklahoma are not options.

I don't know if he said that but the two QBs those teams have committed are both 3-stars. I'm sure he's not too worried.

Alabama's and Oklahoma's QB verbal commits are NOT 3 stars.

 

[woolybug25]

Alabama's and Oklahoma's QB verbal commits are NOT 3 stars.

According to Rivals:

Trevor Knight (OU) - 4star
Alec Morris (Bama) - 3star


Alec Morris is probably a bit under rated. He has great size.

 

[irishff1014]

Notre Dames Gunner has a great game. Man that would sound awesome.

 

[Domina Nostra]

I'm more worried about Michigan, but Alabama is a pretty good situation if you are willing to work in Saban's system.

Alabama's 2012 QB commit, Alec Morris, is a 3-star. However, Alabama runs a hyper-conservative "we always have the lead"-style offense that punishes risk-taking. The kid they have is ideal for their system: he's a big, smart kid with a very big arm from a proven winner.
He'll enter the depth chart behind:
- 4-star AJ McCarron, 6-4, 205 - 2 years (pro-style starter)
- 5-star Phillip Sims, 6'2", 217- 2 years (dual-threat)
- 3-star Phillip Ely, 6'1", 187- 3 years (typical UA QB)

Oklahoma's 2012 QB, Trevor Knight, is a bona fide 4-star, #5 dual-threat in the class.
He'll enter the depth chart behind:
- 4-star Landry Jones, 6-4, 229 1 year
- 3-star Drew Allen*, 6-5, 239 3 years
- 4-star Blake Bell R-Fr., 6-6 245 3 years
- 3-star Kendall Thompson, 6-2, 195, 4 years

Michigan has:
-5-star Denard Robinson, 6-0, 193, Jr., 1 year
- 4-star Devin Gardner, 6-4, 210, So., 2 years
- 3-star Russell Bellomy, 6-3, 185 4 years

 

[t3hjc]

Michigan's got a top QB commit for 2013.

 

[Rhode Irish]

I'm more worried about Michigan.

Alabama's 2012 QB commit, Alec Morris, is a 3-star. However, Alabama runs a hyper-conservative "we always have the lead"-style offense that punishes risk-taking. The kid they have is ideal for their system: he's a big, smart kid with a very big arm from a proven winner.
He'll enter the depth chart behind:
- 4-star AJ McCarron, 6-4, 205 - 2 years (pro-style starter)
- 5-star Phillip Sims, 6'2", 217- 2 years (dual-threat)
- 3-star Phillip Ely, 6'1", 187- 3 years (typical UA QB)

Oklahoma's 2012 QB, Trevor Knight, is a bona fide 4-star, #5 dual-threat in the class.
He'll enter the depth chart behind:
- 4-star Landry Jones, 6-4, 229 1 year
- 3-star Drew Allen*, 6-5, 239 3 years
- 4-star Blake Bell R-Fr., 6-6 245 3 years
- 3-star Kendall Thompson, 6-2, 195, 4 years

Michigan has:
-5-star Denard Robinson, 6-0, 193, Jr., 1 year
- 4-star Devin Gardner, 6-4, 210, So., 2 years
- 3-star Russell Bellomy, 6-3, 185 4 years
- 4/5-star Shane Morris, 6 years (2013 commit)

I know Morris isn't at UM yet, but I think he has to factor into what you're laying out here.

 

[woolybug25]

Morris will most likely be the #1 overall QB next year. I really don't think that they will be a big player for Gunner.

 

[koonja]

Alabama's and Oklahoma's QB verbal commits are NOT 3 stars.

According to scout.com they sure are. And I use scout.com for reference because if you take a look at the recruiting home page for IE, we list the 'stars' next to our recruits as they pertain to scout.com, not any other site.

 

[WhoDeyIrish]

According to scout.com they sure are. And I use scout.com for reference because if you take a look at the recruiting home page for IE, we list the 'stars' next to our recruits as they pertain to scout.com, not any other site.

That's probably because Scout usually likes us much better than any other site.

 

[woolybug25]

According to scout.com they sure are. And I use scout.com for reference because if you take a look at the recruiting home page for IE, we list the 'stars' next to our recruits as they pertain to scout.com, not any other site.

I don't really like Scout and they rarely are on que with the other sites. 247, Rivals and ESPN all feel that he is a 4star. His offer list is stupid good too. Scout is definitely an outlier on this one, and even if he were a 3*, his offer list trumps that.

I like where we sit with Gunner if Bama gets Winston.

 

[koonja]

I don't really like Scout and they rarely are on que with the other sites. 247, Rivals and ESPN all feel that he is a 4star. His offer list is stupid good too. Scout is definitely an outlier on this one, and even if he were a 3*, his offer list trumps that.

I like where we sit with Gunner if Bama gets Winston.

Fair enough. If everyone prefers the other sites over scout.com, maybe we should change the 'stars' next to our recruits from scout's ratings to more suitable recruiting site's. But that's for another topic.

Gunner, you can come to ND and throw to Ferguson, Greenberry, Chris Brown, and Payton or Agholor (please, lord!) and a stud TE for your entire college career. Ready, set, commit!

 

[woolybug25]

Fair enough. This guy combined with Ferguson, Greenberry, Chris Brown and either Payton or Agholor (please, lord) would be a passing offense to talk about for a looooong time.

Kiel can run too. I know I am a broken record on this, but I truly feel that Gunner would be a program changing type of player for us. Kelly has never had a kid this talented paired with all of the tools he looks for in a QB.

In Urban Meyer's book, he talked about getting on a plane after his last visit with Tebow before NSD. He looked at his assistant and told him that getting Tebow would be the difference in winning National Championships and just winning the SEC. Gunner is Kelly's Tebow, just with a better arm.

 

[BeauBenken]

According to scout.com they sure are. And I use scout.com for reference because if you take a look at the recruiting home page for IE, we list the 'stars' next to our recruits as they pertain to scout.com, not any other site.

Actually, JPham apparently tries to average out the ratings. Darby was a 4 star until we all complained enough that he bumped him up to a 5.

 

[irishog77]

Kiel can run too. I know I am a broken record on this, but I truly feel that Gunner would be a program changing type of player for us. Kelly has never had a kid this talented paired with all of the tools he looks for in a QB.

In Urban Meyer's book, he talked about getting on a plane after his last visit with Tebow before NSD. He looked at his assistant and told him that getting Tebow would be the difference in winning National Championships and just winning the SEC. Gunner is Kelly's Tebow, just with a better arm.

Interesting note about Meyer's thoughts on Tebow. I wonder, though, if Kelly truly feels the same way about Kiel.

I obviously have no idea what Kelly actually feels about Kiel, but if he thinks he is the guy to get him over the hump, then I think the full-court-press is on and I can't help but feel he will ultimately be Irish.

 

[Domina Nostra]

I know Morris isn't at UM yet, but I think he has to factor into what you're laying out here.

Good point.

 

[Jozodog1201]

Question. IF Gunner commits to ND what's the chances DGB starts looking are way? I thought I remember that DGB was impressed with Gunner. My thought was that Gunner was always going to commit to Oklahoma and DGB would follow. When Gunner commited to IU their was no way DGB follow would follow to that program. But if gunner comes to ND........ Do you think their's a chance we have a shot at DGB????? I know their's a lot of IFs.

 

[Irish Man3]

Question. IF Gunner commits to ND what's the chances DGB starts looking are way? I thought I remember that DGB was impressed with Gunner. My thought was that Gunner was always going to commit to Oklahoma and DGB would follow. When Gunner commited to IU their was no way DGB follow would follow to that program. But if gunner comes to ND........ Do you think their's a chance we have a shot at DGB????? I know their's a lot of IFs.

No