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leaving all our board's funny stuff on Bob Diaco aside for the moment, the above is a perfectly sensible position to take, and is the rattling skeleton in the closet until he turns it into nothing but bonedust. I, too, am going to be rather nervous about defense going into both those games. Navy did a LOT more than "just one thing" to us last season.
 

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I will agree with this once we stuff Navy and Air Force this year. Until then, I think he certainly deserves "kudos" for his recruiting, energy and rapport with the players. But I was at the Meadowlands last year and will not personally forgive him or call him a top coordinator until that performance is shown to be a fluke.

I was at that game too.. What a terrible day. The train ride home was tough.
 

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I will agree with this once we stuff Navy and Air Force this year. Until then, I think he certainly deserves "kudos" for his recruiting, energy and rapport with the players. But I was at the Meadowlands last year and will not personally forgive him or call him a top coordinator until that performance is shown to be a fluke.

Ditto. I'm a G'ints fan and that was my first game in the New Meadowlands Stadium. I'll never forget that day/game.
 

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There is no reason Lo should be covering Rob Woods, period
 
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He is going back to the defensive Coordinator we saw the last few games of last year.
 

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Bob Diaco slept from the end of the third quarter against AF until today.

This. Was not happy with Bob tonight. We need to change something up, defense looked shabby at times tonight. Defensive line got dominated, linebackers were horrible at tackling (Holy crap, don't get juked by the QB), and we didn't do a great job covering receivers.

How Lo Wood was tasked with guarding Woods is beyond me. I understand that Motta went out with a concussion, but Motta shouldn't have been matched up with Woods either. It should have been Blanton all day and with safety help at times.
 

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This. Was not happy with Bob tonight. We need to change something up, defense looked shabby at times tonight. Defensive line got dominated, linebackers were horrible at tackling (Holy crap, don't get juked by the QB), and we didn't do a great job covering receivers.

How Lo Wood was tasked with guarding Woods is beyond me. I understand that Motta went out with a concussion, but Motta shouldn't have been matched up with Woods either. It should have been Blanton all day and with safety help at times.

I agree that some of it is coaching but a lot of it has to do with our lack of skill. Secondary is not very good. How Shembo and Flemming kept getting deaked by Barkley is beyond me.
 

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This. Was not happy with Bob tonight. We need to change something up, defense looked shabby at times tonight. Defensive line got dominated, linebackers were horrible at tackling (Holy crap, don't get juked by the QB), and we didn't do a great job covering receivers.

How Lo Wood was tasked with guarding Woods is beyond me. I understand that Motta went out with a concussion, but Motta shouldn't have been matched up with Woods either. It should have been Blanton all day and with safety help at times.

Which is why it sounds to me more like an assignment gaff on the field rather than a coach directed assignment.

In the post game presser Kelly responded to a question about why was Wood playing. That's where the Motta concussion came up. Kelly also noted that Woods gets move around in formations like Floyd. I inferred Wood on Woods was happenstance but it wasn't explained any futher. I didn't hear a followup question asking if Lo was assigned to him nor why he had no help.

And for the record I never jumped on the Diaco bandwagon last November. I was stunned at the lack of adjustment in the Navy game and again against AF this year. I attributed the Michigan 4th quarter breakdown to blown assignments. I know the DL is young especially now with Johnson out. ... I don't want to go over the whole Defensive scheme/play in this post. The purpose of this paragraph is to confirm that I'm not sold on Diaco. I'm also not going to hang him on the Woods TD if a player blew the coverage be it a corner or a safety or both.
 

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... How Shembo and Flemming kept getting deaked by Barkley is beyond me.

Not a personal comment reagarding you but several posters have made similar comments about those two players getting faked out so badly and that it must be coaching.

What I find strange is that some of the same people in the game thread raved about Riddick's superior running skills when he leaned right and went left around a stunned defender. When our guy makes that play offensively he's a "great" runner. When it happens to our defenders, they're have poor fundamentals.

Similar to Floyd or Eifert beating a DB for a pass. "GREAT CATCH" gets posted.

When their WR AND QB combine for a nice reception, it's always "Why was HE covering him?" "He's can;t cover." Etc.

Sometimes the other guys make nice plays. They're supposed to.


Oh and I only recall two plays where Barkley deaked somebody. So I'm not sure two guys "kept" getting deked. Hyperbole or was it several/numerous dekes?
 

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Not a personal comment reagarding you but several posters have made similar comments about those two players getting faked out so badly and that it must be coaching.

What I find strange is that some of the same people in the game thread raved about Riddick's superior running skills when he leaned right and went left around a stunned defender. When our guy makes that play offensively he's a "great" runner. When it happens to our defenders, they're have poor fundamentals.

Similar to Floyd or Eifert beating a DB for a pass. "GREAT CATCH" gets posted.

When their WR AND QB combine for a nice reception, it's always "Why was HE covering him?" "He's can;t cover." Etc.

Sometimes the other guys make nice plays. They're supposed to.


Oh and I only recall two plays where Barkley deaked somebody. So I'm not sure two guys "kept" getting deked. Hyperbole or was it several/numerous dekes?

Barkley, torn up knees and all had 20 yds rushing and two and perhaps three (can't remember if it was third) third down conversions. It was frustrating to watch our LBs sit back and let the play come to them, ultimately getting worked, instead of going and making a play. Maybe I need to stop watching SEC teams play so I can realistic expectations.

And I don't blame the coaches for that. I am quite sure they teach proper technique. Why is doesn't translate to the field is something I've been trying to figure out for the last 20 yrs.

Watch your referring to is "fandum." Our guys are great their guys suck. Its hard to admit the other team is better.
 

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Everyone's got a viewing point, and seldom do they agree. I'm a little like BGIF and a little different. What's the same is my lack of being completely sold on Coach Diaco. He, it seemed, was completely out-gamed by Navy's game plan last year, and they stayed in front of him the entire game. The "excuse" that they were doing something "new" that game really doesn't excuse anything. Great D-Coordinators "see" that rapidly and have remedies ready to impose. Imagine Virginia Tech's Foster being puzzled all game long. Diaco to me is a microversion of this team. A talented young individual who is going through a learning process. The question is: will Notre Dame fans let him grow into what he will become??

Having said that: Diaco also doesn't have the necessary pieces to employ. I am a broken record on this, but we lack speed/closing ability especially in Diaco's own area of expertise [linebackers]. In my opinion we were terrible at arriving "on time" and then making an under-control tackle yesterday. Part of great tackling is getting there earlier than at the desperation moment. I'll expose myself to great criticism now, but even Te'o fairly stunk at this yesterday. As to the other guys: better left unsaid. I thought that the D-Line, for the most part, did its job. They are supposed to be blocked as the offense's priority afterall, and the linebackers are supposed to fill, close, and tackle. That second thing didn't happen with much competence.

Our team defensively is plenty good enough to play any team which has neither a great scrambler nor a great NFL-headed QB. If the football gods send opponents with ordinary QBs towards us, we pretty much dominate. Linebackers are supposed to be "making plays" which stop drives all game. Ours do not. That is not Diaco's fault in my opinion. What does seem to be his fault is lack of experience against clever offensive schemers. We're "good" on defense. We will not be "great" until Coach Diaco grows up a little more and we get a lot faster.
 

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Everyone's got a viewing point, and seldom do they agree. I'm a little like BGIF and a little different. What's the same is my lack of being completely sold on Coach Diaco. He, it seemed, was completely out-gamed by Navy's game plan last year, and they stayed in front of him the entire game. The "excuse" that they were doing something "new" that game really doesn't excuse anything. Great D-Coordinators "see" that rapidly and have remedies ready to impose. Imagine Virginia Tech's Foster being puzzled all game long. Diaco to me is a microversion of this team. A talented young individual who is going through a learning process. The question is: will Notre Dame fans let him grow into what he will become??

Having said that: Diaco also doesn't have the necessary pieces to employ. I am a broken record on this, but we lack speed/closing ability especially in Diaco's own area of expertise [linebackers]. In my opinion we were terrible at arriving "on time" and then making an under-control tackle yesterday. Part of great tackling is getting there earlier than at the desperation moment. I'll expose myself to great criticism now, but even Te'o fairly stunk at this yesterday. As to the other guys: better left unsaid. I thought that the D-Line, for the most part, did its job. They are supposed to be blocked as the offense's priority afterall, and the linebackers are supposed to fill, close, and tackle. That second thing didn't happen with much competence.

Our team defensively is plenty good enough to play any team which has neither a great scrambler nor a great NFL-headed QB. If the football gods send opponents with ordinary QBs towards us, we pretty much dominate. Linebackers are supposed to be "making plays" which stop drives all game. Ours do not. That is not Diaco's fault in my opinion. What does seem to be his fault is lack of experience against clever offensive schemers. We're "good" on defense. We will not be "great" until Coach Diaco grows up a little more and we get a lot faster.

Seems he made a couple of strong recruiting plays and Diaco becomes a God in the blind Irish Fan eyes on the board. Recruiter Diaco may be but, some of his defensive tactics are not perfect and there are still some holes that need to be filled on the defensive side. I strongly agree with you that speed is a major concern and honestly, defensive knowledge of knowing where the ball is.

Good post old man,

Diz
 

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Everyone's got a viewing point, and seldom do they agree. I'm a little like BGIF and a little different. What's the same is my lack of being completely sold on Coach Diaco. He, it seemed, was completely out-gamed by Navy's game plan last year, and they stayed in front of him the entire game. The "excuse" that they were doing something "new" that game really doesn't excuse anything. Great D-Coordinators "see" that rapidly and have remedies ready to impose. Imagine Virginia Tech's Foster being puzzled all game long. Diaco to me is a microversion of this team. A talented young individual who is going through a learning process. The question is: will Notre Dame fans let him grow into what he will become??

Having said that: Diaco also doesn't have the necessary pieces to employ. I am a broken record on this, but we lack speed/closing ability especially in Diaco's own area of expertise [linebackers]. In my opinion we were terrible at arriving "on time" and then making an under-control tackle yesterday. Part of great tackling is getting there earlier than at the desperation moment. I'll expose myself to great criticism now, but even Te'o fairly stunk at this yesterday. As to the other guys: better left unsaid. I thought that the D-Line, for the most part, did its job. They are supposed to be blocked as the offense's priority afterall, and the linebackers are supposed to fill, close, and tackle. That second thing didn't happen with much competence.

Our team defensively is plenty good enough to play any team which has neither a great scrambler nor a great NFL-headed QB. If the football gods send opponents with ordinary QBs towards us, we pretty much dominate. Linebackers are supposed to be "making plays" which stop drives all game. Ours do not. That is not Diaco's fault in my opinion. What does seem to be his fault is lack of experience against clever offensive schemers. We're "good" on defense. We will not be "great" until Coach Diaco grows up a little more and we get a lot faster.

You hit on many great points. I hate this team right now but by far am I not calling for any coaches to be fired. I think we just need to keep doing what we are doing and that is growing and installing a new offense and defense. It's going to take time and pieces (recruits). The lousy part about this is that it will take more time.

As much as I HATE to say this, it just seems like we are another 2-4 years away. If nothing gets better by then, then we will worry about that then. In the meantime we are who we are.

BUT I'M NOT GONNA SUGARCOAT IT...........I'M PISSED! lol

Sorry for yelling
 

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You hit on many great points. I hate this team right now but by far am I not calling for any coaches to be fired. I think we just need to keep doing what we are doing and that is growing and installing a new offense and defense. It's going to take time and pieces (recruits). The lousy part about this is that it will take more time.

As much as I HATE to say this, it just seems like we are another 2-4 years away. If nothing gets better by then, then we will worry about that then. In the meantime we are who we are.

BUT I'M NOT GONNA SUGARCOAT IT...........I'M PISSED! lol

Sorry for yelling

No need for an apology.... every loss stinks and it looks and seems it brings the best out of everyone on this board :awesomewo

My sole issue with those calling for coach's heads, and kids getting kicked off the team or less playing time, are the same ones who posted that an 8-4 or 9-3 season would be acceptable in Kelly and his staffs second year. Well, here we are on that path of either one of those records and it is Armageddon.

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Which is why it sounds to me more like an assignment gaff on the field rather than a coach directed assignment.


And for the record I never jumped on the Diaco bandwagon last November. I was stunned at the lack of adjustment in the Navy game and again against AF this year. I attributed the Michigan 4th quarter breakdown to blown assignments. I know the DL is young especially now with Johnson out. ... I don't want to go over the whole Defensive scheme/play in this post. The purpose of this paragraph is to confirm that I'm not sold on Diaco. I'm also not going to hang him on the Woods TD if a player blew the coverage be it a corner or a safety or both.

There was a corner and a safety assigned, unfortunately neither were with in 10 yards of the receiver. No way he should have been that open. Blown and SLOW coverage
 

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Simply put, there is no way Lo Wood can cover Woods 1v1. I dunno if Slaughter was supposed to be over the top there or what. But it was blown something... I guess the coaches were saying under normal circumstances that would've been Blanton on Woods but instead Blanton had to slide inside and play nickel because Motta was out.

So much for having depth.... we sorely missed EJ and, because of a lack of depth at corner, it looks like missing Motta caused an incredible mismatch.
 

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Everyone's got a viewing point, and seldom do they agree. I'm a little like BGIF and a little different. What's the same is my lack of being completely sold on Coach Diaco. He, it seemed, was completely out-gamed by Navy's game plan last year, and they stayed in front of him the entire game. The "excuse" that they were doing something "new" that game really doesn't excuse anything. Great D-Coordinators "see" that rapidly and have remedies ready to impose. Imagine Virginia Tech's Foster being puzzled all game long. Diaco to me is a microversion of this team. A talented young individual who is going through a learning process. The question is: will Notre Dame fans let him grow into what he will become??

Having said that: Diaco also doesn't have the necessary pieces to employ. I am a broken record on this, but we lack speed/closing ability especially in Diaco's own area of expertise [linebackers]. In my opinion we were terrible at arriving "on time" and then making an under-control tackle yesterday. Part of great tackling is getting there earlier than at the desperation moment. I'll expose myself to great criticism now, but even Te'o fairly stunk at this yesterday. As to the other guys: better left unsaid. I thought that the D-Line, for the most part, did its job. They are supposed to be blocked as the offense's priority afterall, and the linebackers are supposed to fill, close, and tackle. That second thing didn't happen with much competence.

Our team defensively is plenty good enough to play any team which has neither a great scrambler nor a great NFL-headed QB. If the football gods send opponents with ordinary QBs towards us, we pretty much dominate. Linebackers are supposed to be "making plays" which stop drives all game. Ours do not. That is not Diaco's fault in my opinion. What does seem to be his fault is lack of experience against clever offensive schemers. We're "good" on defense. We will not be "great" until Coach Diaco grows up a little more and we get a lot faster.

good post... speed, sure tackling and coverage skills are what you need on defense. ND lacks in all three categories.
 

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when we win fellow posters pump me up tell me all the great things about us.... when we lose a game some fellow posters fall to pieces
it's ok guys pick yourself up go enjoy life and wait till sat... everything will be fine again.... Go Irish....
 

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I have nothing but an opinion but I'm not sold yet either. There's flashes for sure but it sure seems we get out schemed against the better teams. Yea, we need some players still but Kiffen and Barkley controlled that game. (I hate to say that)

Another thing that makes no real sense. When we're on defense, it seems like we only have 10 men on the field as opposed to an Alabama which seems like they have 13 players on the field.
 
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