'11 SC QB Everett Golson (FSU transfer)

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GOLSON WHERE YOU AT?

As I sat and watched the scUM players/fans celebrate on the field I tried to think of something other than lashing out at a skunk bear fan...your thought crossed my mind. I'm not going to sift thru zillions of threads to see if it has been mentioned...but after watching Rees fail to deliver, us go 0-2, hit a low point, I wondered at what point do they(if they even do) figure Golson is the future, this season is lost...and go with the kid similar to what they did with Quinn and Clausen? Obviously I wouldn't bag it on Tommy yet, but this season is dangerously close to being lost. Any word on how Golsons progress is coming? Does anyone feel confident he could do it?
 

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i also thought last night after i had laid down...is it time we add that wrinkle to the offense that truly makes it a dangerous spread offense? questions that will need to be answered sooner rather than later.
 
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There's a reason the backup quarterback is the most popular position.

Brian Kelly addressed these issues with thinking that the backups are better. They aren't.

Considering the offense is moving the ball, a new quarterback isn't needed. The issue is turnovers ad specifically in the red zone. Would a new quarterback really be better at not turning the ball over with a short field? Doubtful.
 

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There's a reason the backup quarterback is the most popular position.

Brian Kelly addressed these issues with thinking that the backups are better. They aren't.

Considering the offense is moving the ball, a new quarterback isn't needed. The issue is turnovers ad specifically in the red zone. Would a new quarterback really be better at not turning the ball over with a short field? Doubtful.

I agree man, my thoughts/questions lie within what is best for the future. I think short term, Tommy is our guy...long term I dunno? Like others have said, look at our frickin schedule next year...ugh. The last qb to sit and wait his turn hasn't worked out so well for us(love ya dayne, just saying... injuries suck). The last 2 we threw in the fire early survived and had 'good' jr/sr years. I think Golson would have enough talent around him, if he is anywhere near ready, that this season still wouldn't be a 3 win year like jimmys. Obviously only questions a coaching staff could answer.
 

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Would a new quarterback really be better at not turning the ball over with a short field? Doubtful.

Especially when Kelly said, just after the Spring Game, that Golson had trouble holding on to the ball. The offense is averaging over 500 yards a game. We don't need a change at QB.
 

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Just to be clear, I'm asking for input on where Golson might be at...similar to GB's question. In no way am I saying we NEED to be changing qb's again.
 

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There's a reason the backup quarterback is the most popular position.

Brian Kelly addressed these issues with thinking that the backups are better. They aren't.

Considering the offense is moving the ball, a new quarterback isn't needed. The issue is turnovers ad specifically in the red zone. Would a new quarterback really be better at not turning the ball over with a short field? Doubtful.

I don't believe he is suggesting that the QB position is responsible for the losses, thus a change there is needed. I think what he is saying is that if we continue on this current path, how much longer until you no longer dedicate this season to as many wins as possible, rather than developing future starters.
 
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Stuff like that makes me love Notre Dame more than the W's. That is really awesome to see.
 

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Well played.

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“@NDatRivals: Kelly on Golson not playing this year after Hendrix got in “I think you guys can figure out what the rotation is going to be at this point."”
 

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With the caveat that I'm commonly wrong, let me offer a random prediction that is nothing more than a gut feeling:

I think that Everett Golson will be the starting qb in Dublin next September.
 

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With the caveat that I'm commonly wrong, let me offer a random prediction that is nothing more than a gut feeling:

I think that Everett Golson will be the starting qb in Dublin next September.

I second that. BK needs a dynamic, playmaker in there at qb. Sry, but Hendrix is not the guy i want in there, running our offense. I would love if BK started giving Golson playing time here on out.

Golson can and i think he will be that guy to give us that extra flash and spark that we are lacking.
 
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I second that. BK needs a dynamic, playmaker in there at qb. Sry, but Hendrix is not the guy i want in there, running our offense. I would love if BK started giving Golson playing time here on out.

Golson can and i think he will be that guy to give us that extra flash and spark that we are lacking.

How can you say that without even seeing him play? Crist has the better arm and the better legs for BK's offense but he isn't out there because he does not grasp the offense, what's to say Golson does?

No matter how the rest of the season goes, I still think we end up 9-3 with an upset of Stanford, BK will not waste a season of eligibility on Golson now.
 

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How can you say that without even seeing him play? Crist has the better arm and the better legs for BK's offense but he isn't out there because he does not grasp the offense, what's to say Golson does?

No matter how the rest of the season goes, I still think we end up 9-3 with an upset of Stanford, BK will not waste a season of eligibility on Golson now.

I am glad that you have a positive out look but we are not going to stand a chance against Stanford. I am still worried about the Navy game considering we don't even have a top 50 defense.
 
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I am glad that you have a positive out look but we are not going to stand a chance against Stanford. I am still worried about the Navy game considering we don't even have a top 50 defense.

Part of that is my bias for ND, if you couldn't tell. The bye week really hurt us. I hate bye weeks in football because they kill any momentum that you have built up. They are good if you are on a negative slide (See last season) but terrible if you are rolling (See this season). I'm 25 so I have watched my fair share of football, both college and pros over the years and it really is a killer.

People get too relaxed (for the most part), they get rusty, they get caught up in the emotion, etc. USC struggled the week before which was their first game back after their bye, had that week to work out the kinks. We gotta schedule a "cupcake" right after the bye to caught the rust shaken out. If we had played Boston College this week with USC next, I believe things come out differently.

Shoulda, woulda, coulda..

We have Navy, BC, Maryland, Wake before the Stanford game. Plenty of time to get on a roll and the USC loss could be the wake up they needed. Texas Tech were 29 point underdogs to Oklahoma, anything is possible.

I do not worry about Navy because they are struggling at 2-5. They will be ready but the Air Force game showed me they will handle Navy. I do believe Air force beat Navy earlier in the season too. Most of the points/yards given up were late in the game and by the backups. BC is well, they suck. Wake beat Duke by a point and well, it's Wake, this isn't basketball. Maryland doesn't worry me either. That game will be played down here in DC at RFK Stadium or whatever the Redskins call the stadium. Plenty of ND faithful will be there.

8-4 regular season with a bowl win is not a bad season in Year 2 of the BK, at least in my book. We are asking BK to turn a group of mediocre players under Charlie Weis and make them All-American, BCS caliber players in two years, no small feat. You wanna talk about a statement win, it was never gonna be against USC, this season's statement win was always gonna be against #3 Stanford with Andrew Luck, at Stanford.
 

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I second that. BK needs a dynamic, playmaker in there at qb. Sry, but Hendrix is not the guy i want in there, running our offense. I would love if BK started giving Golson playing time here on out.

Golson can and i think he will be that guy to give us that extra flash and spark that we are lacking.

So you base your observation of Hendrix on how many snaps? He looked just fine to me on his 78 yard run. I'd like to see him throw some more but I'm pretty excited about our future with him as our starting QB.
 

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So you base your observation of Hendrix on how many snaps? He looked just fine to me on his 78 yard run. I'd like to see him throw some more but I'm pretty excited about our future with him as our starting QB.

I know it doesnt sound fair to Hendrix... But we need a quick athletic qb who is going to be able to be just as much of a threat with his arm as he is with his legs. And im not saying Hendrix isnt a threat with his legs. I just think Golson will be even more of a threat than Hendrix. Why not start giving him some reps now? Why not prepare him with live snaps now? He IS our future qb, whether Hendrix is there or not.
 

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I would like to see an Everett/Hendrix combo on the field. Both out there.
 

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How can you say that without even seeing him play? Crist has the better arm and the better legs for BK's offense but he isn't out there because he does not grasp the offense, what's to say Golson does?

No matter how the rest of the season goes, I still think we end up 9-3 with an upset of Stanford, BK will not waste a season of eligibility on Golson now.


Does anyone get tired of this "grasping" of the offense?? What the heck are they running that's so tough to figure out? I watch as other teams like Auburn and Oklahoma have no problems throwing brand new QB's out there and never skipping a beat. Why can't ours be this way? We all can admit that last year we were at our best at the end when we dummied it down for our freshmen QB why can't we do this now and use one of our better playmakers and then slowly piece this offense together over time. I feel as though BK is trying to win as fast as possible and throwing all this stuff together way too fast apparently for any of our QB's to process. Why can't we just put a playmaker in there and build the offense from the ground up, because let's face it Tommy you gotta love the kid but who are we kidding? he's not taking us to a BCS bowl anytime soon. just my two cents because i can't take anymore of this grasping the offense because i've heard it more here then anywhere else in the country and look at what is our team produces on the field..
 
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So we are going to through in a red shirt freshman over a guy with a 8-2 record and another QB who ran for 111 yards on eight carries and was 4-4 throwing? alright sounds good let me know how this goes. I am all for Golson and what he can do but the offense hasn't been a problem this year as explosive it would be with a dual guy. Golson cant hold onto the ball in practice from all the rumors and is struggling with decision making. Hendrix is next inline and there is a reason he is playing over Everett right now the people dogging Hendrix and his skills on this board is baffling to me.
 

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Hes got quicks, he will more then likely be a rb/wr kinda guy. If ND lands Gunner then that move is a given, and for Golson if he has any dreams of playing pro ball its the wise move to make.
 

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Does anyone get tired of this "grasping" of the offense?? What the heck are they running that's so tough to figure out? I watch as other teams like Auburn and Oklahoma have no problems throwing brand new QB's out there and never skipping a beat. Why can't ours be this way? We all can admit that last year we were at our best at the end when we dummied it down for our freshmen QB why can't we do this now and use one of our better playmakers and then slowly piece this offense together over time. I feel as though BK is trying to win as fast as possible and throwing all this stuff together way too fast apparently for any of our QB's to process. Why can't we just put a playmaker in there and build the offense from the ground up, because let's face it Tommy you gotta love the kid but who are we kidding? he's not taking us to a BCS bowl anytime soon. just my two cents because i can't take anymore of this grasping the offense because i've heard it more here then anywhere else in the country and look at what is our team produces on the field..

Auburn is 93rd in the nation in total offense after finishing 7th last year. Florida's offense has stalled since Brantley got hurt even though other highly-touted QBs have taken over. Miami struggled while Harris was suspended. Oklahoma was lucky that they were able to replace a Heisman winning QB with another top QB. Your argument makes absolutely no sense because most teams take huge steps back when a new QB takes over.
 
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