article: lakers and nuggets talking melo trade

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Sources: Los Angeles Lakers, Denver Nuggets have initial Carmelo Anthony talks - ESPN Los Angeles


that would be nasty if they could get it done. it probably won't happen but if it did that would be one good team with kobe, melo and gasol.

 

[GEORGIA DOMER]

Sources: Los Angeles Lakers, Denver Nuggets have initial Carmelo Anthony talks - ESPN Los Angeles


that would be nasty if they could get it done. it probably won't happen but if it did that would be one good team with kobe, melo and gasol.

 

[Ironman8]

Boooooo.

 

[IrishLax]

wow if that happens.... just wow. Would it be rent a player for the year to get Kobe another ring? Or would it be long term sign-and-trade? Can't read article at work.

 

[KPENN]

It won't happen and It'd be dumb on the Lakers part.

 

[KPENN]

wow if that happens.... just wow. Would it be rent a player for the year to get Kobe another ring? Or would it be long term sign-and-trade? Can't read article at work.

Last I knew Melo wants to play in NYC so i think it'd just be a rental

 

[Ironman8]

Wouldn't mind the Lakers trading Bynum for him, not winning the Championship, then losing him to the Knicks in free agency.

 

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Wouldn't mind the Lakers trading Bynum for him, not winning the Championship, then losing him to the Knicks in free agency.

i don't think u have anything to worry about ironman. i think they are just trying to build up interest in melo so they can get more for him. I say he ends up with knicks in the end.

 

[Ironman8]

i don't think u have anything to worry about ironman. i think they are just trying to build up interest in melo so they can get more for him. I say he ends up with knicks in the end.

Hope so. Looks like the ****ty owner is even getting involved:

Report: James Dolan in Carmelo Anthony talks; Wilson Chandler a hurdle? - ESPN New York

I just hope either way we don't give up too much to get him. I love the young foundation Donnie is building this team on (especially Fields - he's the type of role player every championship has and needs).

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

Hope so. Looks like the ****ty owner is even getting involved:

Report: James Dolan in Carmelo Anthony talks; Wilson Chandler a hurdle? - ESPN New York

I just hope either way we don't give up too much to get him. I love the young foundation Donnie is building this team on (especially Fields - he's the type of role player every championship has and needs).

Haha, Craig Carton was somewhat ripping on Dolan this morning on 660 begging him not get involved.

FYI for those who listen to AM radio either in the NYC area or on the internet, the Boomer (Esiason) and Carton show is the best radio talk show in the nation-morning, afternoon, or night. You dont even really need to be a NY fan. I get the station down in Philly.

 

[Ironman8]

Haha, Craig Carton was somewhat ripping on Dolan this morning on 660 begging him not get involved.

FYI for those who listen to AM radio either in the NYC area or on the internet, the Boomer (Esiason) and Carton show is the best radio talk show in the nation-morning, afternoon, or night. You dont even really need to be a NY fan. I get the station down in Philly.

Carton is a outrageous (in a good way though). It's hysterical. I just listen to them thinking Carton is the devil on one shoulder and Boomer is the voice of reason. Great show though.

P.S. Dolan is easily in the top 10 worst owners in sports. He is still actively trying to find a way to get Isiah back in the front office. It is beyond absurdity at this point.

 

[Mr. McGibblets]

Carton is a outrageous (in a good way though). It's hysterical. I just listen to them thinking Carton is the devil on one shoulder and Boomer is the voice of reason. Great show though.

P.S. Dolan is easily in the top 10 worst owners in sports. He is still actively trying to find a way to get Isiah back in the front office. It is beyond absurdity at this point.

Haha. yea, Thats why I like it. Because they are the perfect mix of brash and reason. And Carton is hilarious with the way he says stuff and then his laugh is funny too.


And yea, that blows my mind that he would attmept that. I guess Knicks went down hill when they offered Allan Houston like 100 mil for 5 years or something insane. or maybe the Spreewell for Van Horn did them in.

Maybe its the Curse of Ewing. Shouldnt have disrespected him by trading him haha.

 

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Hope so. Looks like the ****ty owner is even getting involved:

Report: James Dolan in Carmelo Anthony talks; Wilson Chandler a hurdle? - ESPN New York

I just hope either way we don't give up too much to get him. I love the young foundation Donnie is building this team on (especially Fields - he's the type of role player every championship has and needs).

damn iron. hope he;s ok. in the article it said minn wanted to make changes does anyone know what changes they want to make.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

wow if that happens.... just wow. Would it be rent a player for the year to get Kobe another ring? Or would it be long term sign-and-trade? Can't read article at work.

Would not be a rental. Lakers will only do this if they have agreement w Melo on an extension. Broussard does state that Denver may want Gallanari (sp) and someone else (not Chandler) may have been the guy that Ironman says he wouldn't want to part with. If you're the Lakers, you pursue this hard, especially if what they are reporting is true that Denver may not want Odom in the deal because he is set to make $9M next season.

 

[TDHeysus]

the Lakers cant win with the current team they have. They cant match up against a healthy BOS team, no way. Plus, lets face it, the Lakers are not motivated.

Bynum is a joke, cant play a full season, a 7 footer with 2 busted up knees and all I hear as a lakers-fan is how good he is GOING to be. It doesnt matter how good he is going to be, he cant be counted on now, cant be counted on in the past, and will not be counted on in the future. They should have dumped him previously when everyone thought he had this tremendous upside. He has no upside, he cant make it onto the court. A 7footer, that cant play a whole season, 2 bad knees, and 4year/$50million salary...puhleez. I'm so over Brittle Bynum, cut him loose. I'll give it up for bynum tyhat he played well in the finals, but that was for only 2weeks. If the Lakers needed a big man just for the finals, they should have picked up Shaq, for alot cheaper. At least Shaq makes it onto the court.

If they can get Melo and keep enough of the core, then its a good deal. Kobe needs 2 more rings.

 

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hey ironman there is talk about arron brooks being on the block and the knicks are interested in him too.

 

[Ironman8]

hey ironman there is talk about arron brooks being on the block and the knicks are interested in him too.

Oh really? Interesting. We do need an upgrade over Toney Douglas in the backcourt, that's for sure. Wonder what the asking price is.

 

[rikkitikki08]

This is exactly why the NBA is a sinking ship, all the good teams keep getting better and the average teams can not. Maybe im just biased because my pacers are a small market team

 

[rikkitikki08]

Last I knew Melo wants to play in NYC so i think it'd just be a rental

No way melo doesnt sign an extension in LA.....i can basically say he would sign an extension. He is a big city type guy so i would be shocked if he didnt

 

[Ironman8]

This is exactly why the NBA is a sinking ship, all the good teams keep getting better and the average teams can not. Maybe im just biased because my pacers are a small market team

Sound a little like Major League Baseball?

 

[rikkitikki08]

Sound a little like Major League Baseball?

Possibly but baseball isnt going anywhere. My only problem with the nba is no parody. For example the NFL is a money making machine simply because any team any year could go to the super bowl. You look at the NBA and you basically have the final 4 teams set at the start of the year

 

[Ironman8]

Possibly but baseball isnt going anywhere. My only problem with the nba is no parody. For example the NFL is a money making machine simply because any team any year could go to the super bowl. You look at the NBA and you basically have the final 4 teams set at the start of the year

The NBA isn't going anywhere either. And honestly, you start the baseball season every year with probably 4 teams as well who can legitimately contend for the title, with a couple of surprises in certain years (i.e. The Giants this year.) On the flip side, there are always numerous teams that are dead in the water before the season begins. Imagine being a Pirates or Royals fan? Can even add in recently the Orioles, Nationals, and Indians. As much as it hurts me to say as a Yankee fan, a hard cap in all pro sports would go a long way in improving the League's as a whole.

 

[rikkitikki08]

The NBA isn't going anywhere either. And honestly, you start the baseball season every year with probably 4 teams as well who can legitimately contend for the title, with a couple of surprises in certain years (i.e. The Giants this year.) On the flip side, there are always numerous teams that are dead in the water before the season begins. Imagine being a Pirates or Royals fan? Can even add in recently the Orioles, Nationals, and Indians. As much as it hurts me to say as a Yankee fan, a hard cap in all pro sports would go a long way in improving the League's as a whole.

Agreed, but to be fair i would much rather melo go to the knicks then the lakers....And i hate the knicks! GO PACERS! HICKS VS THE KNICKS hahahah

 

[Ironman8]

Agreed, but to be fair i would much rather melo go to the knicks then the lakers....And i hate the knicks! GO PACERS! HICKS VS THE KNICKS hahahah

Stockpiling American born white players is not the road to success in today's NBA. But good luck to you.

 

[rikkitikki08]

Stockpiling American born white players is not the road to success in today's NBA. But good luck to you.

Oh i agree with this, tyler hansbrough comes to mind. He should not be starting at PF for anyteam in the league but i suppose he gets the job done for now. Both the pacers and knicks have solid young talent, hopefully we will see some playoff series in the near future between the states that started basketball. In my opinion the two teams being competitive does nothing but good things for the league

 

[Ironman8]

Oh i agree with this, tyler hansbrough comes to mind. He should not be starting at PF for anyteam in the league but i suppose he gets the job done for now. Both the pacers and knicks have solid young talent, hopefully we will see some playoff series in the near future between the states that started basketball. In my opinion the two teams being competitive does nothing but good things for the league

I was thinking of Hansborough, Dunleavy, McRoberts, Foster, and until recently, Troy Murphy.

 

[rikkitikki08]

I was thinking of Hansborough, Dunleavy, McRoberts, Foster, and until recently, Troy Murphy.

Mcbob will be a good role player through out his career, but foster will retire after this season. Dunleavy is an expiring and i expect him to be traded in the next few weeks. 4 white guys on one team....say it aint so??????

 

[IrishLax]

The NBA isn't going anywhere either. And honestly, you start the baseball season every year with probably 4 teams as well who can legitimately contend for the title, with a couple of surprises in certain years (i.e. The Giants this year.) On the flip side, there are always numerous teams that are dead in the water before the season begins. Imagine being a Pirates or Royals fan? Can even add in recently the Orioles, Nationals, and Indians. As much as it hurts me to say as a Yankee fan, a hard cap in all pro sports would go a long way in improving the League's as a whole.

But even the Indians and Orioles had their good years. Same goes with the Rays who used to be at absolute rock bottom and the laughing stock of the league for over a decade. They built a team capable of winning in the hardest division in baseball. And most handicappers would totally disagree with you about being able to pick four teams to start the year. There are surprises and close races that yearly go down to the wire. The fact that one game on a 162 game schedule can separate teams shows that there is actually quite a bit of parity between small and big market teams.

Basketball is just... so uncompetitive. It's too hard to build a team through the draft and only big market teams win in free agency. Just an all-around terribly run league. The problem is that one player can make or break your team in basketball more than in any other sport.

 

[Ironman8]

But even the Indians and Orioles had their good years. Same goes with the Rays who used to be at absolute rock bottom and the laughing stock of the league for over a decade. They built a team capable of winning in the hardest division in baseball. And most handicappers would totally disagree with you about being able to pick four teams to start the year. There are surprises and close races that yearly go down to the wire. The fact that one game on a 162 game schedule can separate teams shows that there is actually quite a bit of parity between small and big market teams.

Basketball is just... so uncompetitive. It's too hard to build a team through the draft and only big market teams win in free agency. Just an all-around terribly run league. The problem is that one player can make or break your team in basketball more than in any other sport.

You are making the argument against yourself for me in that last part. Since one player can make or break your team, one good lottery pick can set your franchise off in the right direction immediately, unlike in any other sport. This could easily benefit a small market team that usually doesn't attract big-name free agents. Take the Thunder for instance. Is that a team free agents would flock too? Most likely not, but they will be in contention for a title for years now simply because of a #2 overall pick who is probably the best young player in the league. Even the Clippers, an ugly, younger brother in their own city, is set up favorably for the future because of Blake Griffen. Of course, the Lebron James debacle can be used against this argument, with one arguing that once they get a chance, small market free agents will flock to big cities. He is just one man, though, and as we saw with Durant signing an extension that it is not the case for all big name free agents in small markets. In addition, besides the angry Lebron caused the city of Cleveland by spurning them in such a way to leave for South Beach, he did more for that organization in his time there than any other player in history. The amount of income he generated for the team and the city can not be understated.

If we go back to baseball, yes, the Rays had a couple good years there, even making it to the World Series. But look at them now, they are falling back into non-contention, destined to attempt to rebuild for another decade until they accrue enough young talent through the draft to make another short run before they have to say goodbye to their stars because they can't afford to keep them. That is the main difference between the sports - small market teams literally CAN NOT keep up monetarily with the larger market teams, where as the salary cap in leagues such as the NBA make sure that large market teams do not have this same advantage. Will some players prefer the bright lights and spurn small market teams for storied franchises? Of course. But there is a much greater chance of NBA teams keeping their homegrown superstars than in the MLB. In addition, the NBA had the great idea (IMO) to allow the current team of an NBA player to offer significantly more money than any other team pursuing a free agent. This levels the playing field significantly for small market teams, as an NBA player would have to accept a paycut to go to a small market team, unless a sign and trade agreement is reached (in which the small market team also benefits, as they at least receive some compensation in return instead of having nothing to show for their lost superstar).

Just my opinion, again, but I would love to see a hard cap in all major sports, thus allowing the parity we see in the NFL and NHL to reign supreme and allowing all fan bases a glimmer of hope for the future.

 

[BurningRiver]

hm. is there an NBA season going on right now?