Number of Scholarships Left?

[PLACforever]

Does anyone know how many spots we have left? I've seen a few different answers throughout the threads, but no one seems to know for sure. All I know is that I'm going to be really upset if at the 11th hour Huggins wants to be Irish, but we have to turn him away because we offered the #20 punter(hypothetical) in the nation.

I'm talking about total, not just for the year.

 

[PLACforever]

Week old article, a lot changes in 7 days.
Notre Dame's Remaining Scholarships for 2011 - Notre Dame Recruiting | UHND.com

 

[WhoDeyIrish]

I'd say we have 3-5.

 

[PLACforever]

Someone may have to call Joe Montana and tell him that he's going to have to pay for Nate... not like he can't afford it with those Sketchers commercials.

 

[Big23Head]

Recruiting — The final countdown | Inside the Irish


Good article explaining some. I think we take 3-4 more if possible

 

[Legacy]

Coach Kelly Plays the Numbers 56+20+11=87 | One Foot Down

Best explanation I have read and was updated yesterday.

With Ishaq's and Martin's commitments, Bullard's transfer and Floyd returning, we have 77 scholarships from the incoming class through the current Junior class.

We have 11 Seniors eligible for fifth years, including Wenger's application for a sixth year. Best guesses are three - Harrison Smith, Gary Gray, and Taylor Devor - would definitely be offered. That makes 80. Five spots left for next year's team.

The remaining recruits' decisions and staff evaluations affect how many of five of the others - Nuss, Romine, Ruffer, Ragone, and Wenger - return. I don't think three Seniors - Walker, Nwanko, and Paskorz - will be offered fifth years.

 

[CanadianIrish]

The question is who do we still have on the board if Lynch signs up too?

Carlisle seems less likely with the visit to USC and him cancelling the in home visit with Kelly.

Niklas would be a huge addition, although I suspect we'd have to be thinking OT if Lynch comes on board.

Huggins is always a chance, apparently the dad thinks we're in the final three.

But who else is still on the board? If we have 3-4 schollies left, we need to fill them or we might as well just keep more fifth years.

 

[BGIF]

Does anyone know how many spots we have left? I've seen a few different answers throughout the threads, but no one seems to know for sure. All I know is that I'm going to be really upset if at the 11th hour Huggins wants to be Irish, but we have to turn him away because we offered the #20 punter in the nation.

I'm talking about total, not just for the year.

At this time of year, there is no definite number at ND. Probably never will be with the way 5th have to apply to a Academic Committee for approval. At Bama and most elsewhere the HC tells the school.

Add to that academic casualties, Res Life uncertainies, rehabbing players that don't rehab as expected. Then while the fans are jumping with joy over the blue chips newcomers some of the existing players may look at the depth chart and wonder if the grass is greener elsewhere ala Shaq Evans.

Last Spring I said the number be around 22 and could go as high as 25 for the right people. I got thrashed by those saying 16. No way ND would take in the 20's. What are we at now 21 with a couple of lively prospects left.

ND is going to take the 20th punter over Huggins ... but there is that offer to a LS. During the Holtz years (long after Cerrato was gone), ND turned away a kid named Jevon Kearse because OL Coach Joe Moore was adamant about a can't miss OL. ND took the OL who was a career backup while Kearse with his 3.5 GPA and National Honor Society creditentials tore up the SEC at UF.

Here's the link to the original Somogyi article on the numbers game:

Notre Dame Scholarship Numbers

 

[Legacy]

The other consideration is how many scholarships you want to have left for 2012.

We'll have 22 Seniors next year with 15 eligible for 5th years. That's seven scholarships + any that aren't offered fifth years + any saved from this year.

 

[jason_h537]

At this time of year, there is no definite number at ND. Probably never will be with the way 5th have to apply to a Academic Committee for approval. At Bama and most elsewhere the HC tells the school.

Add to that academic casualties, Res Life uncertainies, rehabbing players that don't rehab as expected. Then while the fans are jumping with joy over the blue chips newcomers some of the existing players may look at the depth chart and wonder if the grass is greener elsewhere ala Shaq Evans.

Last Spring I said the number be around 22 and could go as high as 25 for the right people. I got thrashed by those saying 16. No way ND would take in the 20's. What are we at now 21 with a couple of lively prospects left.

ND is going to take the 20th punter over Huggins ... but there is that offer to a LS. During the Holtz years (long after Cerrato was gone), ND turned away a kid named Jevon Kearse because OL Coach Joe Moore was adamant about a can't miss OL. ND took the OL who was a career backup while Kearse with his 3.5 GPA and National Honor Society creditentials tore up the SEC at UF.

Here's the link to the original Somogyi article on the numbers game:

Notre Dame Scholarship Numbers

Agree with all of this. The 5th years make the situation fluid. Using the current roster we have room for 1 more but not all 5th year guys will be back. I would say 2-3 more spots but it also depends on who wants to come and how badly the staff wants them

 

[Old Man Mike]

Kelly wants Lynch and one other offensive "big skill" guy, plus the long snapper. He'll then have filled the targeted slots. [given that they decided to go one extra DB and no NT].

 

[Ironman8]

Check out this website on all things ND. Think it has a pretty unique set up and is pretty informative.

Notre Dame Scholarships

 

[NewEnglandGuy]

Check out this website on all things ND. Think it has a pretty unique set up and is pretty informative.

Notre Dame Scholarships

Unique is a good word, nice find for sure. They have up to the date info (listing IShaq as Irish), but do not have everything up to date and accurate: Bullard is not listed as transferred and the 5th year status does not include information for the freshman as they all apparently are eligible.

 

[jason_h537]

Check out this website on all things ND. Think it has a pretty unique set up and is pretty informative.

Notre Dame Scholarships

interesting site

 

[Ironman8]

Unique is a good word, nice find for sure. They have up to the date info (listing IShaq as Irish), but do not have everything up to date and accurate: Bullard is not listed as transferred and the 5th year status does not include information for the freshman as they all apparently are eligible.

Yea, stubbled upon it and just thought I'd share. Definitely not perfect, but I kind of like the set up and tools.

 

[IrishAlum1997]

I can't remember a time when we had a class where we weren't basically able to keep every available 5th year. Wasn't it '07 when we kept (no offense) Junior Jabbie for a 5th year? Now we are going to see the coaches have to make 3-5 really tough decisions about ending the college careers of some relatively well touted recruits.

Exciting to be on the front lines of witnessing what this program is becoming again, but you have to feel for some of these guys.

 

[PLACforever]

Check out this website on all things ND. Think it has a pretty unique set up and is pretty informative.

Notre Dame Scholarships

^awesome

 

[PLACforever]

FWIW, Kelly and his staff are LEGEND---ARY recruiters, BCS or bust this year!

 

[amgarvey]

ND is going to take the 20th punter over Huggins ... but there is that offer to a LS. During the Holtz years (long after Cerrato was gone), ND turned away a kid named Jevon Kearse because OL Coach Joe Moore was adamant about a can't miss OL. ND took the OL who was a career backup while Kearse with his 3.5 GPA and National Honor Society creditentials tore up the SEC at UF.

Here's the link to the original Somogyi article on the numbers game:

Notre Dame Scholarship Numbers[/QUOTE]

That is a very interesting anecdote. I really appreciate this sort of contribution from you. Reps.

 

[PLACforever]

So with Hounshell, we have maybe 2 spots left?
This is getting tight, Niklas and Cam Clear are still considering and I hear Shuler is coming at the end of January and that he and Savon could be a package deal.

 

[johnnykillz]

So with Hounshell, we have maybe 2 spots left?
This is getting tight, Niklas and Cam Clear are still considering and I hear Shuler is coming at the end of January and that he and Savon could be a package deal.

Either we get on board with SEC style recruiting, or the train leaves the station...

I'm betting someone's hollering, "All aboard!" as we speak(read).

 

[military_irish]

So with Hounshell, we have maybe 2 spots left?
This is getting tight, Niklas and Cam Clear are still considering and I hear Shuler is coming at the end of January and that he and Savon could be a package deal.

i seen you write about Shuler in another thread, but where have you heard that, out of curiousity? I've looked around but can't find anything, if it is true it would be nice

 

[PLACforever]

i seen you write about Shuler in another thread, but where have you heard that, out of curiousity? I've looked around but can't find anything, if it is true it would be nice

2011 Updated Recruiting List thread
Posted today by Irishman3 I believe

 

[BGIF]

Either we get on board with SEC style recruiting, or the train leaves the station...

I'm betting someone's hollering, "All aboard!" as we speak(read).

The ship has left the dock with the tide (small t's). Still a little time to catch a tug ride and join the ship before it clears the harbor.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

From filtering it down to verbal signed and enrolled it's 96 recruits.
I haven't gone through the seniors yet though.

 

[IrishInColumbus]

Nate Montana can pay his way, and one would expect one quarterback to transfer after spring, right? Don't get me wrong, you couldn't convince me without a hefty check to transfer away from Notre Dame, but I would think if Massa finds himself behind Crist, Golson, Hendrix, Rees, and Montana after spring....well he might look to another school. It's not like we haven't had a slew of quarterback transfers in the decade or so.

I don't think there's anyway you don't take Huggins (or Shuler for that matter).

BTW....can we get a link to validate some Shuler rumors? This is too good to be left unproven.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

Nate Montana can pay his way, and one would expect one quarterback to transfer after spring, right? Don't get me wrong, you couldn't convince me without a hefty check to transfer away from Notre Dame, but I would think if Massa finds himself behind Crist, Golson, Hendrix, Rees, and Montana after spring....well he might look to another school. It's not like we haven't had a slew of quarterback transfers in the decade or so.

I don't think there's anyway you don't take Huggins (or Shuler for that matter).

BTW....can we get a link to validate some Shuler rumors? This is too good to be left unproven.

The best I have been able to find is that he has an OV on the 28th. Though on his scout Bio he admits that his SAT wasn't as good as he hoped for and he retakes the test this month. That could be why the rumors are coming out now.

 

[IrishLax]

ND is going to take the 20th punter over Huggins ... but there is that offer to a LS. During the Holtz years (long after Cerrato was gone), ND turned away a kid named Jevon Kearse because OL Coach Joe Moore was adamant about a can't miss OL. ND took the OL who was a career backup while Kearse with his 3.5 GPA and National Honor Society creditentials tore up the SEC at UF.

Here's the link to the original Somogyi article on the numbers game:

Notre Dame Scholarship Numbers

That is a very interesting anecdote. I really appreciate this sort of contribution from you. Reps.[/QUOTE]

Are you serious???? We turned away KEARSE!?!?!?!

 

[jonesman]

YES, ND did turn away Javon Kearse back in the day. It is an UGLY situation where we gave a scholarship to a small time player as a favor to a coach or alum. Not sure all the details, but that one will live as a nightmare in Lou's head.

 

[jonesman]

As for who is left and who we take. Everyone better remember that are THREE locked 5th year spots. There is no way that Kelly is turning away Harrison Smith, Gary Gray or Taylor Dever. Those are three starters where we really do not have an experienced back-up. ESPECIALLY at Smith and Gray's spots.

So, there are somewhere between 2 to 3 spots left. One for Nicklas if he wants. The other one or two would be Shuler and Huggins.