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The Notre Dame community and fanbase should end the bad habit of mocking the intelligence and character of our opponents through derogatory generalizations and assertions. I was reading some of the comments at the end of the article linked in this post, and while there were several UM fans that displayed their immaturity, I was more disappointed to read yet another thug/drug insinuation by an ND supporter. The trend of mocking the opposition by degrading job potential and/or making fun of intelligence makes us all look pretentious and arrogant, but mostly, just really insecure. As a long time ND football fan, elitism off the field is a poor substitute for bad play on it, not to mention a poor reflection of all the positive things that the University of Notre Dame truly represents.

With that said, don't get it twisted. Miami will get their due justice on the field, the only place it really matters. Let em hate us on the field for good reason, where no excuses can be upheld or unjustified accusations leveled. Take that to the bank.
 
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Thanks for posting the article. Can't wait for this game as it will remind us of times past. I remember watching these games in the eighties and it was THE game of the season circled on everyone's calender. Just about everyone in the country tuned in for it. Just hope tomorrow's game is a good one and that we beat the Canes handily.
 
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Anytime those old Miami players from the 1980's are interviewed, you realize why nearly the entirety of college football hated them. This article really just reinforces that feeling.

First, with Faust trying to recruit the player in the beginning. Boy, Faust was a poor old sap and it is pretty embarassing that he would pop that tape in and start crying.

But something like that makes you "hate" Notre Dame? That's just ridiculous. So the coach is a little out of touch, but he's showing that he loves the school he's at, which for a normal recruit should bring about some respect, even if it is a little off-putting.

But no, this player turned it into such hatred and even as a grown man cursed in the article in his quote.

``To me, UM-Notre Dame was good versus evil,'' said former Canes receiver Randal Hill (1987-90). University of Miami being the Hall of Justice, Notre Dame being the Legion of Doom. "

Huh? See, this is why so many people didn't (or still don't) like Miami. It's like these players lived in an alternative world. Your team is breaking all these rules, getting paid money, putting out bounties on players, robbing people, getting arrested, showboating like we've never seen before, getting everything free at bars and clubs, living like kings, acting like spoiled children...and you're the league of justice? You're the good guys??

"People talk about Michigan-Ohio State, UCLA-USC. But no rivalry except Miami-Notre Dame has ever been so heated that they actually had to end the rivalry.''

Well, I know the Harvard-Yale series was suspended because of serious hatred, and the Notre Dame-Army series was too for similar reasons. I'm sure there have been many more instances throughout college football history too.

I don't really think this has anything to do with Miami's fans or with Notre Dame being arrogant. My problems is with all of these ex-Miami players from the glory days...grown *** men, still acting like fools. It would be different if these guys kind of looked back and felt bad that they were breaking all these rules and really setting a poor example for college athletics, but they are still defiant as ever today. I can just imagine some of the past college greats getting together somewhere and seeing some of these ex-Miami players come strolling in with their designer tee-shirts and Gucci sunglasses, trying so hard to stay young and act tough...it's pathetic.
 
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I love how they found like the only 2 UM players from the era that went on to become upstanding citizens with respectable jobs....

``To me, UM-Notre Dame was good versus evil,'' said former Canes receiver Randal Hill (1987-90), a special agent with the Department of Homeland Security since 2003.
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``I'll never forget the intensity of that game -- it was like the national championship,'' said McGuire, 40, a police officer in Long Island, N.Y.
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& they make sure to point it out.

Where are the rest of those low-lifes these days? Out doing blow with Micheal Irvin?
 
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The 1980's players sound like the people who are guests on the Maury Show and they wonder why we can't stand them. As far as insulting the intelligence of our opponents, it's not an insult if they give you something to work with. :) GO IRISH
 
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The Notre Dame community and fanbase should end the bad habit of mocking the intelligence and character of our opponents through derogatory generalizations and assertions. I was reading some of the comments at the end of the article linked in this post, and while there were several UM fans that displayed their immaturity, I was more disappointed to read yet another thug/drug insinuation by an ND supporter. The trend of mocking the opposition by degrading job potential and/or making fun of intelligence makes us all look pretentious and arrogant, but mostly, just really insecure. As a long time ND football fan, elitism off the field is a poor substitute for bad play on it, not to mention a poor reflection of all the positive things that the University of Notre Dame truly represents.

With that said, don't get it twisted. Miami will get their due justice on the field, the only place it really matters. Let em hate us on the field for good reason, where no excuses can be upheld or unjustified accusations leveled. Take that to the bank.
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Ok man. I'm having a hard time connecting here. Do you not realize you can't change jawing that goes on before games? Just as I cannot understand why you'd come here to change the world, we cannot change a few knucklehead's opinions...

Thanks for the buzzkill though.
 
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Ok man. I'm having a hard time connecting here. Do you not realize you can't change jawing that goes on before games? Just as I cannot understand why you'd come here to change the world, we cannot change a few knucklehead's opinions...

Thanks for the buzzkill though.
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Haha. I was tired and I did post that pretty late. I can see how my observations probably sounded like an after school special though. Mainly, I was just offering a perspective up. My thought process was originally sparked by comments that belittled a former Miami player for having a "lesser" job by bragging about the power of the ND degree. As much as that particular player deserved to be slammed for talking sh*t, the attack on his job came off as a elitist. But you're right, we can't all be zen-like, and the jabbing is just part of the game.

No buzzkill though. I'm anxious to watch ND kick Miami's *** on the field as much as the next loyal ND fan.
 
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Reading that article almost was as bad as watching epsn 30 for 30 on miami......
 
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Haha. I was tired and I did post that pretty late. I can see how my observations probably sounded like an after school special though. Mainly, I was just offering a perspective up. My thought process was originally sparked by comments that belittled a former Miami player for having a "lesser" job by bragging about the power of the ND degree. As much as that particular player deserved to be slammed for talking sh*t, the attack on his job came off as a elitist. But you're right, we can't all be zen-like, and the jabbing is just part of the game.

No buzzkill though. I'm anxious to watch ND kick Miami's *** on the field as much as the next loyal ND fan.
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I hope we whip 'em. Especially after reading that article. lol.

Faust crying though - that's funny bro. lol. Really gosh dang funny. I never really pictured him as the emo type.
 
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Three giant CRUSHES in a row by our defense on their first three possessions--GAME OVER. I've got to get off of here--I'm so fired up I just want to GO NUTS in ALL CAPS. I'm darned near incoherent!!!!!!!!!!!! My best Howard Dean imitation AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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rikkitikki08 said:
Reading that article almost was as bad as watching epsn 30 for 30 on miami......
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Randall Hill never misses on an opportunity to confirm to everyone that once an arsehole, always an arsehole. Whether back in the day, on 30 for 30, or in this article.

Are these are the kinds of stand up individuals that are working for Homeland Security since 2003? I know I feel safe.
 
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Wow somehow I hate them so much more now. Embarrassing for Faust yeah, but how embarrassing for those two former miami players. My favorite line was "He was like, `Drinks on me in the club,' all that." It's not the best sign when your team is having drinks bought for them in the club by some rapper.

How about we run them into the ground... say... 58-7?

GO IRISH!
 
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It does crack me up how just about every single USC or Miami player that has ever been interviewed about Notre Dame says the same exact crap... it's always some variation of "I hate everthing they stand for and they are the bad guys."


really??? Topping the Africian American grad rate like every freakin year... winning the academic national title something like seven times over the last 25 years while STILL being competitive on the field (Others to win it more than once are Duke, Army and Baylor I believe)... Judeo Christian ethics... great winning tradition based on all of the above...

man, tons to hate there...
 
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Quit being such choir boys...i read the first two paragraphs and laughed so hard i couldnt breathe. I would have thrown faust out of the house for that BS. The part about the rag towel was funny too.

that being said i think ND wins this one in stunning fashion...setting us up for a big year next year.
 
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ACamp1900 said:
It does crack me up how just about every single USC or Miami player that has ever been interviewed about Notre Dame says the same exact crap... it's always some variation of "I hate everthing they stand for and they are the bad guys."


really??? Topping the Africian American grad rate like every freakin year... winning the academic national title something like seven times over the last 25 years while STILL being competitive on the field (Others to win it more than once are Duke, Army and Baylor I believe)... Judeo Christian ethics... great winning tradition based on all of the above...

man, tons to hate there...
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Keep in mind that ND also "stands for" working very hard, not making excuses, earning what you get, doing the right thing most often, and being humble. I would imagine that THOSE are "everything they stand for" that these guys hate so much.
 
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In a common saying from the times of the old rivalry:

Eat s*** and die Miami.

Even Mark May basically said the Irish punched them in the mouth and were the better team.

GO IRISH!
 
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It was freakin FREEZING at the game... but straight up no BS... everyone in my section laughed at me all game long over my verve and I stayed until the Irish left the field WELL after the game was over....


Playa.




Go Irish
 
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