'11 MI RB Justice Hayes (Michigan Commit)

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He seems to have a little shiftiness in him. He also looks to be able to find the holes that the O-line creates, which is nice...for a change. That snippet didn't show much running over people, I was thinking for a while the he and Savon were the same kind of back, but Savon seems to have a little more north/south, while Hayes looks like someone who could juke a defender out of his jock.
 

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He seems to have a little shiftiness in him. He also looks to be able to find the holes that the O-line creates, which is nice...for a change. That snippet didn't show much running over people, I was thinking for a while the he and Savon were the same kind of back, but Savon seems to have a little more north/south, while Hayes looks like someone who could juke a defender out of his jock.

You seem to be correct in your assessment. However, in the spread offense, Justice would be deadly. You need to pay attention to a kid of his caliber. I still think that Cameron Roberson is going to play a factor next year, but Justice Hayes is a threat catching passes out of the backfield as a freshman. Mark my words
 
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Talented kid that wants to be Irish, and sounds to be really Irish!!!! Flipping awesome. We want you here Justice too!


Go Irish---support the kids that want to be Irish!
 

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He is very open to becoming a slot WR just like Theo. This kid, from a personality standpoint, is my favorite in this class. Unreal attitude towards fellow recruits and has been a real asset in trying to keep kids focused and committed.
 

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He is very open to becoming a slot WR just like Theo. This kid, from a personality standpoint, is my favorite in this class. Unreal attitude towards fellow recruits and has been a real asset in trying to keep kids focused and committed.
I agree with you. Also, I think he would look great in the slot with Theo and Savon carrying the rock in the backfield.
 

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Two cents, devalued for inflation: Analogous, I think, ancient history---The Detroit Lions were once a dangerous football team [yeh, I know it seems unlikely]. At the time they instituted a radical offensive scheme nick-named the "Silver Stretch". This offense spread the field both horizontally and vertically [sound a bit familiar??] with four wides and one RB [Barry Sanders]. The offense was the most terrorizing "fast strike" offense in the NFL until it got to about the five yard line. Usually it didn't have to worry about that, as either receivers or Sanders were scoring from 20 to 60 yards out.

The relevance to the current discussion I believe is this: although somewhat differently conceived, the Kelly spread does many of the same things, and his running back needs to have the analogous skills. OK, nobody else is Barry Sanders, but bear with me. In that offense very few "traditional" running plays were called for Sanders. [Later when the offense began to stink, it was different with fullback & block-oriented tight end]. The running plays called were largely "draw-like" plays, meant to scare the defense into greater slowness against this pass-first offense. Well, what the h--- does this have to do with us??

Sanders great years were when he was in the Silver Stretch, and could "create" with the football. The stretch gave him room. Kelly wants to create the same kind of "secondary-but-dangerous" threat with his "stretch". Kelly is, need it be said?, pass-first. Sanders value in the "surprise" run, was his shiftiness [of which there was none better], NOT his ability to run people over.

I believe, due to this "brilliant analysis" dimmed only by lack of knowledge and creeping senility, that what we need in a primary back in the Kelly Stretch, is a shifty back capable of locating emerging holes in a loose ruck, and making the first guy or two miss. Hayes seems to be that kind of runner. I suppose that Huggins is too. It's not as necessary that they plough people over. It's also nice if, once they DO make the first two miss, they can accelerate, as sometimes, like Sanders, they might take it to the house.

I saw Armando began to figure this out after a game or two. I thought that Cierre was going to be the guy, but he has trouble with seeing the hole. [and the line has trouble getting one for him; lineplay for this type of running isn't dead simple and takes time---similar to what you saw at WVA in Rodriguez' first couple of years]. i'm not sure that we currently have any ideal back for the stretch/surprise type running. I'll honor Armando till the end of days for what he gave the team this year, but Kelly needs a slightly different back. Hayes?? Huggins??

By the way, the Lions screwed up due to complaints about goal-line offense, and ruined their scheme. [Creating huge numbers of zero-yardage-running sideways in the backfield plays by their Hall-of-Fame RB]. ND wouldn't have to worry about that, as with our larger number rosters, we can easily create "Jumbo Packages" for goal-line violence.
 

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Such a Deal! The Old Man (older than me though not quite older than dirt) has caught on to the "enter" key, analogous to the "Return" key on an IBM Selectric or the prominent silver lever on manual typewriters!
 

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Such a Deal! The Old Man (older than me though not quite older than dirt) has caught on to the "enter" key, analogous to the "Return" key on an IBM Selectric or the prominent silver lever on manual typewriters!

i prefer the visual of the 100 dashes between thoughts.
 

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i prefer the visual of the 100 dashes between thoughts.

To tko: actually I prefer it too. But social pressure and all that....

I'm prone – and partial to – the stream of consciousness approach myself.* Ask anyone who's dealt with me "up close and personal."

I've had years of experience with relatives, friends and strangers dipping their heads and then tipping them back with a roll of the eyes as I speak. Those closest to me have even had the courage, on occasion, to tell me simply to "shut the fug up."

I try very hard to simplify and not ramble when writing. I tend to get banned here when I let things fly.

Post on, Mike, in whatever format you choose. You are a beacon.
 
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HuH?

What is this nitwit talking about? Hayes is 100% commited. He hasn't jumpship yet means he won't now. Dude! Seriously, stop posting..

This. That poster has some serious self-esteem issues or something to be that negative out of nowhere.
 

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HuH?

What is this nitwit talking about? Hayes is 100% commited. He hasn't jumpship yet means he won't now. Dude! Seriously, stop posting..

Nobody is 100% until NSD. Anything can change an 18 year olds mind. I think he is solid but we wont know until he signs.
 

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thats just a stupid comment Hayes is fightingfor other recruits and is probably one of the most solid recruits we have these recuritis might read what you are saying so try not to question one of the most loya recruits we have
 

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Justice Hayes is one of the LEAST likely ship-jumpers in the whole class. He, Brindze, Grace et al call themselves "The Justice League" and have been constantly trying to recruit FOR us. How does anyone come up with BS that's ignorant of facts such as that?? I almost suspect that people are just trying to irritate others when things like that are said.
 

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Justice Hayes is one of the LEAST likely ship-jumpers in the whole class. He, Brindze, Grace et al call themselves "The Justice League" and have been constantly trying to recruit FOR us. How does anyone come up with BS that's ignorant of facts such as that?? I almost suspect that people are just trying to irritate others when things like that are said.

This is so true thanks old man mike
Justice is an rkg if ive ever seen one hes considered even changing positions i dont think he is changing schools
 
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Well if we should all assume everybody is going to decommit. I think we should all leave the site until February 2nd.
 

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People need to stop telling others to "go away" and saying things like "we don't need your negativity" when people post things they disagree with. Some of the private comments I got when I criticized Dayne's accuracy were startling, and the things Irishsff is having said to him now (in this and another thread) are silly.

Sure Hayes is probably solid and the comment was overly pessimistic, but that's hardly worthy of telling him to "go away".

Shuler and Huggins not being there at Yankee stadium cannot possibly be seen as a positive irrespective of what they say to the staff or to recruiting websites.
 
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Ok let me get this right first off i was trying to say that if huggins doesn't commit we still have Hayes. My bad i was watching the Football game and was not paying attention to what i was typing.
 

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People need to stop telling others to "go away" and saying things like "we don't need your negativity" when people post things they disagree with. Some of the private comments I got when I criticized Dayne's accuracy were startling, and the things Irishstiff is having said to him now (in this and another thread) are silly.

Sure Hayes is probably solid and the comment was overly pessimistic, but that's hardly worthy of telling him to "go away".

Shuler and Huggins not being there at Yankee stadium cannot possibly be seen as a positive irrespective of what they say to the staff or to recruiting websites.
I hear you but we should still expect inteligent and somewhat responsible posting, not questioning a recruit's loyalty for no apparent reason
 
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