Ridiculous Kelly Bashers - Who's your answer??

[Ogretoes]

I live in North Carolina. I grew up watching ND football game replays on Sunday mornings. My Moms family were Catholic and her two brothers each had rooms dedicated to watching ND Football. One of them was a dead ringer for Paul Horung. Not long ago I was in my doctors office and one of the nurses had brought her son to work with her. He was in his school uniform with the name of the school on his shirt. Our Lady of Ill Repute or something. I tried to start a conversation about ND Football and this kid had no idea what I was talking about. He could have passed for the doctor if he wasn't so short and he had no idea what I was talking about. Does this mean anything to anyone else?

 

[I Dont Miss Charlie]

I am not a Kelly basher as I have said I love him and think he is a great coach, or at least thought. What I am seeing on the field does not not look like the product of great coaching.

As far as what to do next, nothing. We have to give him 3 years to see where we are and hopefully we are better. I think the admission standards are an issue, although I know I am in the minority on that.

I was against the hire from day 1.

What we did was hired another "flavor of the month" coach expecting him to be the savior of our program. My only problem with the hiring is that we fired Charlie Weis because we wanted to change the way the program was going. Hiring Kelly did not change the direction of the program. Kelly's success revolved around his offensive system and strategy, which was on full display last season with Cincy. So was Charlie. As a coach he was viewed as very personable with an ability to recruit, as well as being able to be hard on players if necessary. So was Charlie. Both guys are great offensive coaches and good recruiters, but I still dont see anything substantial behind making the change.

We didn't change the culture, we just went from a Pro Style team to a Spread team.


What should have been addressed with our hire was bringing in a coach with a defensive pedigree. Someone who can actually coach up a defense and make that the focus of our success, while hiring someone competent to run the offense. This has been the blueprint for National Championship teams the last few years. I cant think of 1 team this past decade who won a Championship with a great offense but a horrible defense. Instead we once again went with the belief that we can only win if we outscore our opponent. Obviously Swarbrick didn't learn from Charlie's 5 years here.


Kelly deserves his 5 years, if and only if he is not implicated in the investigation with his negligence being the reason for Declan Sullivan's death.

 

[HawaiianIrish]

June Jones Head Coach Notre Dame lol lol lol

Nah BK will be fine. It is all of us impatient Irish faithful that must suck it up and cheer our boys on win or lose.... GO IRISH!!!

 

[DCirishfan]

The key reason for making the change was that BK had been a very good to great Head Coach in college football in all of his previous roles. Chuck did not have that pedigree. Additionally he had won in places where recruiting was difficult and against much better institutions . I was 100 percent for the hire and I am not ready to say it was the wrong move because at the end of the day Chuck HAD to go.

Folks this is the best we could land. I will say that I hate the spread for us though, just can't stand it at all.

 

[mgriff]

I was against the hire from day 1.

What we did was hired another "flavor of the month" coach expecting him to be the savior of our program. My only problem with the hiring is that we fired Charlie Weis because we wanted to change the way the program was going. Hiring Kelly did not change the direction of the program. Kelly's success revolved around his offensive system and strategy, which was on full display last season with Cincy. So was Charlie. As a coach he was viewed as very personable with an ability to recruit, as well as being able to be hard on players if necessary. So was Charlie. Both guys are great offensive coaches and good recruiters, but I still dont see anything substantial behind making the change.

We didn't change the culture, we just went from a Pro Style team to a Spread team.


What should have been addressed with our hire was bringing in a coach with a defensive pedigree. Someone who can actually coach up a defense and make that the focus of our success, while hiring someone competent to run the offense. This has been the blueprint for National Championship teams the last few years. I cant think of 1 team this past decade who won a Championship with a great offense but a horrible defense. Instead we once again went with the belief that we can only win if we outscore our opponent. Obviously Swarbrick didn't learn from Charlie's 5 years here.


Kelly deserves his 5 years, if and only if he is not implicated in the investigation with his negligence being the reason for Declan Sullivan's death.

While we do need a great defense to win a title, the head coach does not need to possess a defensive focus--Meyer won two titles at Florida and is an offensive coach. While your argument that a team needs an outstanding defense to win a championship is correct, and obvious, an offensive minded coach can win one as well, by bringing in a solid defensive coordinator.

 

[DCirishfan]

June Jones Head Coach Notre Dame lol lol lol

Nah BK will be fine. It is all of us impatient Irish faithful that must suck it up and cheer our boys on win or lose.... GO IRISH!!!

June Jones could not do any worse for sure lol.

 

[I Dont Miss Charlie]

Gruden is interested in the Dallas gig. He has stated on numerous occasions that he does not want GM responsibilities and only wants to coach, he is currently a clear leader to be in Big D next fall.

Also, talking about firing Kelly after one year is crazy and a waste of computer bits, it aint happening nor should it. If Chuck coached past that Syracuse loss a few years ago then Brian is safe and sound.

I never said Gruden wanted GM responsibilities. I simply said that having an owner behind you second guessing your decisions is a problem for any coach who demands respect from his players.

Respect is something Gruden wants out of his players. Considering having a player mutiny in Tampa in which multiple players went to the owner stating their problems with Gruden was what led to his firing.

 

[HawaiianIrish]

June Jones could not do any worse for sure lol.

yup!!! Pro Style to Spread to Run and Shoot.....


To be honest though i would love for the Irish to just come out and run the ball down our opponents throat.. To compliment this offense we NEED a Defense that makes opposing teams poop thier pants..... To sum it up Irish teams of the late 80's/early 90's...

 

[I Dont Miss Charlie]

While we do need a great defense to win a title, the head coach does not need to possess a defensive focus--Meyer won two titles at Florida and is an offensive coach. While your argument that a team needs an outstanding defense to win a championship is correct, and obvious, an offensive minded coach can win one as well, by bringing in a solid defensive coordinator.

Point well taken.

However, Florida's defense had already been a staple of their success before his arrival thanks to Charlie Strong. Meyer turned the defense over to Strong instead of bringing in his own guy , and it paid off big time. If Kelly is willing to fire several members of our defensive staff, to turn his defense over to a respected defensive coordinator like Chavis, Muschamp, Foster, etc. I would have much more respect for him than I did for Charlie.

It is not like we can't afford it.

 

[I Dont Miss Charlie]

The key reason for making the change was that BK had been a very good to great Head Coach in college football in all of his previous roles. Chuck did not have that pedigree. Additionally he had won in places where recruiting was difficult and against much better institutions . I was 100 percent for the hire and I am not ready to say it was the wrong move because at the end of the day Chuck HAD to go.

Folks this is the best we could land. I will say that I hate the spread for us though, just can't stand it at all.

I agree. Chuck had to go because he was given his time to fix the problems, and the failure of last season despite having our most talented of his tenure showed that he was not fit to be a Head Coach here. I do think he can be successful in college, but the expectations here are too high for him. Indiana or Minnesota is perfect for him.

Secondly, Brian Kelly's greatness relates to D2 football. If you believe D2 success relates anything to D1 success, I'd suggest you explain to me why Chuck Martin, a more successful D2 coach made the jump to D1 football as a DB coach? Kelly's far from great, but his system was successful at Cincy.

He wasn't the best we could land. However, he was the biggest name. Name factor seems to be the only thing a large portion of Notre Dame fans(not all on this website) care about.

 

[jonesman]

DC Irish,
As for your comments about how OSU would wipe the field with back-ups, I think you are dead wrong. I watched OSU lose their QB for a couple series against ILL this year. They looked LOST. Without Pryor being there to run around, that O flounders. Go look at the stats on the team. The back-ups behind OSU's two WR's and TE are non-existent. Their back-ups have like 3-4 catches apiece. Shows how little confidence Tressel has behind his top two WR's.

Do you all remember how bad things were in OK last season for Stoops. It was injury after injury that tore down his season.

Not saying all this gives Kelly a pass, but no team is able to absorb what ND has without serious fallout.

 

[arndtjc]

Thank god someone has some sense left in them. I haven't been on in a while either, and seeing all these posts about wanting Kelly fired is just crazy talk. Come on people, he is NINE games into his era at Notre Dame. Give this team another three games and an offseason, and I think we might be in business. If any of you thought ND was going to win the National Championship this year just because we got one of the best coaches in the country, you are crazy. If you have jumped ship, I'm sorry you feel that way, but please don't come crawling back once BRIAN KELLY has brought Notre Dame another national title!

 

[I Dont Miss Charlie]

DC Irish,
As for your comments about how OSU would wipe the field with back-ups, I think you are dead wrong. I watched OSU lose their QB for a couple series against ILL this year. They looked LOST. Without Pryor being there to run around, that O flounders. Go look at the stats on the team. The back-ups behind OSU's two WR's and TE are non-existent. Their back-ups have like 3-4 catches apiece. Shows how little confidence Tressel has behind his top two WR's.

Do you all remember how bad things were in OK last season for Stoops. It was injury after injury that tore down his season.

Not saying all this gives Kelly a pass, but no team is able to absorb what ND has without serious fallout.

This would be the first year I since Davie in which our 1st year HC did worse than the previous coach. After the Weis fire, most of us seemed to be in agreement that it wasn't the lack of talent holding us back but instead poor coaching.

We shouldn't be losing to the likes of Navy(again) and Tulsa. The QB position isn't the problem considering Rees set a ND freshman record in his 1st career start, so to compare the loss of Crist to the loss of Pryor isn't the same. We have a system in place that favors any QB who steps behind center, while Ohio State's offense is built solely around Pryor.

Our record should be better than what it is, but that saying has become too familiar in recent years with this football program.

Thank god someone has some sense left in them. I haven't been on in a while either, and seeing all these posts about wanting Kelly fired is just crazy talk. Come on people, he is NINE games into his era at Notre Dame. Give this team another three games and an offseason, and I think we might be in business. If any of you thought ND was going to win the National Championship this year just because we got one of the best coaches in the country, you are crazy. If you have jumped ship, I'm sorry you feel that way, but please don't come crawling back once BRIAN KELLY has brought Notre Dame another national title!

Anybody who thinks Kelly needs to be fired after 1 year due to our performance is out of their mind.

 

[ryno 24]

PATIENCE

 

[GreatGolson]

I played NCAA 11 a few times, doesnt seem that hard, you just half hit the O button at the right time to juke.

 

[lookingdeadred]

Well said

Well said

but the folks on the ledge will have none of it.

As I look over the threads online this morning, I chuckle at many of the suggestions. I see the folks calling to Fire Kelly, Bring Back Lou, Kelly is Losing it, CW should not have been fired. So, I want to know from all those spewing these thoughts. Who is the next Messiah??? Before you get started, let me first make some things very clear.

COACHES: Urban is not leaving FL for ND, Lou is not coming out of retirement to coach at ND, his son Skip is holding on for dear life at USF, Stoops is NOT leaving OK, the other Kelly is not leaving Oregon for the stiff admissions at ND, Harbaugh is headed to UM in a couple months, Tressel is a lifer at OSU(would not want him anyway), Patterson at SMU has some major character issues which would prevent him from coming to ND, and Chris Peterson would not want to have the target on his back every week. Oh, I almost forgot to mention for those delusional enough to think ND could offer enough $$, Saban wants no part of being regulated to play within the recruiting rules. SO, who are you suggesting??? Oh, you are wanting CW back. Do you not forget that he was just as bad WITH a healthy QB and the best slot WR ND has had in many years. Further, he hired that winning personality of Tenuta.

THERE IS NOBODY COMING TO SAVE ND. We have the right guy. He needs some time to get things going. The guy who has had like 4 seasons of 10 wins in the last 6 years has not forgotten how to coach. He is not a conservative guy, so you will see him make some decisions at times that may frustrate. But, he is also going to make some calls which we all will cheer in years to come.

OFFENSE WILL FLOURISH. We have all seen flashes this year of how this O can really click when things get rolling. Reality is that we have a QB(Crist) who is really a pro-style guy. He has struggled with his accuracy and some decisions. I firmly believe that Kelly has a couple kids on the QB roster who will take this O to the next level. When the O is scoring, it forces the opponent to keep up. This makes it easier on the D to predict what is coming.

SPEAKING OF DEFENSE. Other than Manti and Ian, there are no real big time NFL talents on this squad. They are a good group, but do not put the fear into anyone. So, we are watching a group that has given great effort and is growing. For those of you that believe Diaco is not the guy, don't think for one minute that Kelly will hesitate to replace him if needed. Kelly fired his DC at Cincy after a bad year. I still think Diaco is the guy, but we will see at the end of the season.

INJURY PANDEMIC. I do not believe I have ever seen a team so laden with injuries in one season. If you were asked before the season how many games ND would lose if Rudolph, Floyd, Crist, Allen, Riddick and Gray would all miss multiple games on O and Ian Williams, Slaughter and Calabrese would miss multiple games on D, what would you answer?? I do not believe for one minute that we would have won at Stanford, but I give us a major chance several games. UM, we lose Crist for a full half. Navy, it would not have changed our pourous D, but with Floyd, Allen, Rudolph and Gray I see ND scoring way more points and possibly changing the outcome. This past week at Tulsa, I see a very different game on O with Rudolph and Allen in particular. We missed Allen's running game and Rudolph as a safety valve. How about Theo's playmaking ability. Do you think Ian would have made a difference on the running game? How about Carlo plugging the middle?? Even when some of these guys have played, they have been hobbled. Rudy was gimpy all season. Floyd was struggling for a few games. Allen was banged up for a few games.

I had a friend who is an OSU fan ask me this weekend, "what is wrong at ND? How do you lose to Tulsa and Navy?". So, I asked him this question. "How would you guys do playing without Pryor at QB, Saine at RB, Sanzenbacher at WR, Stonebrunner at TE, Heyward at DL, Homan at LB and last week take Posie your WR off the field too???" He looked at me and said, "you are not missing all those guys??". I said, "damn right we are!!" I told him we just got Floyd back this week, but not Rudolph, Crist, Allen, Riddick, Williams, Calabrese. He hates ND and he even said, "WOW, you guys have been decimated!" Remember last year when Oklahoma fans were ready to run Stoops out of town? He was suffering lots of injuries.

So, let's give this Kelly guy a chance to build his plan for a couple years. I think we will like the results. Stay strong Irish Nation!! We are a proud and valiant fanbase.

 

[TDHeysus]

As I look over the threads online this morning, I chuckle at many of the suggestions. I see the folks calling to Fire Kelly, Bring Back Lou, Kelly is Losing it, CW should not have been fired. So, I want to know from all those spewing these thoughts. Who is the next Messiah???.

There is no messiah.

The problem is with the admin(s) at ND. The problem is 'status quo thinking'. its wasnt weis, its not kelly. they are pawns in this game.

Weis had the offense and recruiting, and was a defense from being a contender. Not many ppl could see this thru the weis hate that snowballed and got bigger and bigger until it blocked out the sun. (the hate, not Weis)

Enter status quo thinking - The status quo says ND fires the coach if they dont win. sans any progress and any other factors, its simple, fire the coach. Thats the way its always been. Scrap the whole program and start over from the begging, that is where we are now. Enter BK, and he gets to start the whole process over from day 1. He doesnt pick up from where Weis left off, because everything was scrapped and started over.

Weis had alot pieces in place, except a defense. If Weis had a top 30 (top 30! for petes sake) he would still here be today.

Instead of going status quo, and scrapping the whole program, why didnt ND go out and pay big bucks (whatever it took) to get the best defensive coordinator in the land? Pay this coach near HC money if you have to! Take the NFL's D*ck Lebeau(his name was censored), double his salary and make him a coordinator at ND, wouldnt that have been worth a shot? instead of scrapping the whole program and starting over?

As ridiculous as I thought the Weis Lynch mob got, its now starting with Kelly. BK is in month 10 of building his program, he is years away from even being able to field 'his' players. This is squarely the fault of the admin who scrapped the previous program and thought a new coach was going to pick up where Weis left off. It wasnt thought thru, because the new coach wasnt on baord with Weis, he has a completely totally different program that requires a whole new set of players. if they had thought of this beforehand, they would have known that it was going to be years before thery get a product on the field.

Status quo going forward from here - BK will get his 3-5 years, he will get ran, and then we will get some coach that has a compeltely different philosophy, and we'll need to wait another 3-5 years after till that coach gets his players here. (which will probably be the players that BK spent getting rid of)

Blame the ND admin(s) and status quo thinking.....

 

[IrishinSyria]

There is no messiah.

The problem is with the admin(s) at ND. The problem is 'status quo thinking'. its wasnt weis, its not kelly. they are pawns in this game.

Weis had the offense and recruiting, and was a defense from being a contender. Not many ppl could see this thru the weis hate that snowballed and got bigger and bigger until it blocked out the sun. (the hate, not Weis)

Enter status quo thinking - The status quo says ND fires the coach if they dont win. sans any progress and any other factors, its simple, fire the coach. Thats the way its always been. Scrap the whole program and start over from the begging, that is where we are now. Enter BK, and he gets to start the whole process over from day 1. He doesnt pick up from where Weis left off, because everything was scrapped and started over.

Weis had alot pieces in place, except a defense. If Weis had a top 30 (top 30! for petes sake) he would still here be today.

Instead of going status quo, and scrapping the whole program, why didnt ND go out and pay big bucks (whatever it took) to get the best defensive coordinator in the land? Pay this coach near HC money if you have to! Take the NFL's D*ck Lebeau(his name was censored), double his salary and make him a coordinator at ND, wouldnt that have been worth a shot? instead of scrapping the whole program and starting over?

As ridiculous as I thought the Weis Lynch mob got, its now starting with Kelly. BK is in month 10 of building his program, he is years away from even being able to field 'his' players. This is squarely the fault of the admin who scrapped the previous program and thought a new coach was going to pick up where Weis left off. It wasnt thought thru, because the new coach wasnt on baord with Weis, he has a completely totally different program that requires a whole new set of players. if they had thought of this beforehand, they would have known that it was going to be years before thery get a product on the field.

Status quo going forward from here - BK will get his 3-5 years, he will get ran, and then we will get some coach that has a compeltely different philosophy, and we'll need to wait another 3-5 years after till that coach gets his players here. (which will probably be the players that BK spent getting rid of)

Blame the ND admin(s) and status quo thinking.....

I agree, we had our house 3/4s of the way built and we burnt it down. Back to square one...guess what...we don't have the patience to stick through with this project either.

 

[kmoose]

Who is the next Messiah???

Come on out..............................Fat Albert!!

HEY! HEY! HEY!!

 

[die4irish]

Weis' last 3-4 recruiting classes were top 15 to top 10. Without our key starters we should still be able to field a team that is easily able to beat navy and tulosa. If you took those players off of OSU they would wipe the field with Tulsa and Navy....next

After last years game with Navy I dont see tOSU scheduling them anytime soon.

 

[DCirishfan]

I don't think they would really worry too much about beating Tulsa by 30 points.

 

[NeuteredDoomer]

There is a difference between stating an opinion, and parading your opinion as being a fact. Can you have a discussion, without answering questions as being fact?

You seem to have a knack for accusing others of your own faults. Jonesman states intelligent observations and suggestions. You post as fact. I have read much of your fallacious crap in the last two days. You are a mess little boy. But at least you are a consistent mess.

 

[jason_h537]

I am not in the fire Kelly camp. I think that is ridiculous, he needs at least 3 years to make a legitimate decision on his future. However, i was in the Harbaugh camp in the off-season. just sayin

 

[Honey Nut Irish]

Harbaugh would have been perfect. Sadly I think he hates ND too much to ever coach here.

 

[The Polish Irishman]

Harbaugh would have been perfect. Sadly I think he hates ND too much to ever coach here.

Stanford Cardinal (Pacific-10 Conference) (2007–present)
2007 Stanford 4–8 3–6 T-7th
2008 Stanford 5–7 4–5 T-6th
2009 Stanford 8–5 6–3 T-2nd L Sun 21 19
2010 Stanford 7–1 4–1
Stanford: 24–21 17–15


Just saying....most of you would not have let him past his 1st year.

 

[ARALOU]

He did beat USC a time or two during those seasons. Dropped 55 on them one time. Drilled Oregon too. I think he lands at Michigan eventually. He is the type that ND needs. Kelly may be able to do it also but so far he has had a tough season. Beating USC would be feather in his cap. I don't have any answers or preferences for a new coach. I say let it play out for a few years and see. I will say I didn't really like the hire but what do I know. I been an Irish fan for forty years and will continue to be.

 

[Honey Nut Irish]

Stanford Cardinal (Pacific-10 Conference) (2007–present)
2007 Stanford 4–8 3–6 T-7th
2008 Stanford 5–7 4–5 T-6th
2009 Stanford 8–5 6–3 T-2nd L Sun 21 19
2010 Stanford 7–1 4–1
Stanford: 24–21 17–15

Just saying....most of you would not have let him past his 1st year.

Well I think the idea behind hiring Harbaugh is that he would have built off what Weis left behind.

At Stanford the situation was very different. He had to build that whole program from the ground up.

 

[DomerBoy]

Harbaugh has beaten USC three times. I believe the first time he beat them they were 41 point dogs and beat them in with a touchdown with a minute to go.

He also has an allstar coaching staff with tons of NFL experience including himself.

 

[eNDzone]

As I look over the threads online this morning, I chuckle at many of the suggestions. I see the folks calling to Fire Kelly, Bring Back Lou, Kelly is Losing it, CW should not have been fired. So, I want to know from all those spewing these thoughts. Who is the next Messiah??? Before you get started, let me first make some things very clear.

COACHES: Urban is not leaving FL for ND, Lou is not coming out of retirement to coach at ND, his son Skip is holding on for dear life at USF, Stoops is NOT leaving OK, the other Kelly is not leaving Oregon for the stiff admissions at ND, Harbaugh is headed to UM in a couple months, Tressel is a lifer at OSU(would not want him anyway), Patterson at SMU has some major character issues which would prevent him from coming to ND, and Chris Peterson would not want to have the target on his back every week. Oh, I almost forgot to mention for those delusional enough to think ND could offer enough $$, Saban wants no part of being regulated to play within the recruiting rules. SO, who are you suggesting??? Oh, you are wanting CW back. Do you not forget that he was just as bad WITH a healthy QB and the best slot WR ND has had in many years. Further, he hired that winning personality of Tenuta.

THERE IS NOBODY COMING TO SAVE ND. We have the right guy. He needs some time to get things going. The guy who has had like 4 seasons of 10 wins in the last 6 years has not forgotten how to coach. He is not a conservative guy, so you will see him make some decisions at times that may frustrate. But, he is also going to make some calls which we all will cheer in years to come.

OFFENSE WILL FLOURISH. We have all seen flashes this year of how this O can really click when things get rolling. Reality is that we have a QB(Crist) who is really a pro-style guy. He has struggled with his accuracy and some decisions. I firmly believe that Kelly has a couple kids on the QB roster who will take this O to the next level. When the O is scoring, it forces the opponent to keep up. This makes it easier on the D to predict what is coming.

SPEAKING OF DEFENSE. Other than Manti and Ian, there are no real big time NFL talents on this squad. They are a good group, but do not put the fear into anyone. So, we are watching a group that has given great effort and is growing. For those of you that believe Diaco is not the guy, don't think for one minute that Kelly will hesitate to replace him if needed. Kelly fired his DC at Cincy after a bad year. I still think Diaco is the guy, but we will see at the end of the season.

INJURY PANDEMIC. I do not believe I have ever seen a team so laden with injuries in one season. If you were asked before the season how many games ND would lose if Rudolph, Floyd, Crist, Allen, Riddick and Gray would all miss multiple games on O and Ian Williams, Slaughter and Calabrese would miss multiple games on D, what would you answer?? I do not believe for one minute that we would have won at Stanford, but I give us a major chance several games. UM, we lose Crist for a full half. Navy, it would not have changed our pourous D, but with Floyd, Allen, Rudolph and Gray I see ND scoring way more points and possibly changing the outcome. This past week at Tulsa, I see a very different game on O with Rudolph and Allen in particular. We missed Allen's running game and Rudolph as a safety valve. How about Theo's playmaking ability. Do you think Ian would have made a difference on the running game? How about Carlo plugging the middle?? Even when some of these guys have played, they have been hobbled. Rudy was gimpy all season. Floyd was struggling for a few games. Allen was banged up for a few games.

I had a friend who is an OSU fan ask me this weekend, "what is wrong at ND? How do you lose to Tulsa and Navy?". So, I asked him this question. "How would you guys do playing without Pryor at QB, Saine at RB, Sanzenbacher at WR, Stonebrunner at TE, Heyward at DL, Homan at LB and last week take Posie your WR off the field too???" He looked at me and said, "you are not missing all those guys??". I said, "damn right we are!!" I told him we just got Floyd back this week, but not Rudolph, Crist, Allen, Riddick, Williams, Calabrese. He hates ND and he even said, "WOW, you guys have been decimated!" Remember last year when Oklahoma fans were ready to run Stoops out of town? He was suffering lots of injuries.

So, let's give this Kelly guy a chance to build his plan for a couple years. I think we will like the results. Stay strong Irish Nation!! We are a proud and valiant fanbase.

jonesman you said a mouthful that needed to be said . Loved it. Kelly's our coach and it is times like this that fans need to support their coach. Do you lambasters think the weight of the world is enough right now or should we pile more on his shoulders. Give him some time.

 

[kmoose]

He also has an allstar coaching staff with tons of NFL experience including himself.

So did Weis.....