Kelly sideline antics all teaching

[Junkhead]

I love seeing the intensity. It's a large change after watching Weis look baffled and just standing there with his play sheet.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

do anyone remember that time Lou ran onto the field and grabbed a defensive player by the facemask and walked him over to the sidelines? that was a classic....The player was like 6'5", and little Lou took him down, down to chinatown. I dont remember the players name(i thought he was #98). The player was not a starter, he got into the game for a play or 2, and I think he got into a fight, and Lou ran out, grabbed him by the facemask and walked(dragged) him over to the sidelines.

I was just thinking of this. It was Huntley Bakich...freshman on the team. Got into a fight with a Michigan State player. Can't find a photo online.

 

[tankjeep]

I love seeing the intensity. It's a large change after watching Weis look baffled and just standing there with his play sheet.

....and the dribble/dried spit around his mouth too.

 

[IrishLax]

Kelly is exactly the kind of coach I loved playing for.

 

[tankjeep]

Kelly is exactly the kind of coach I loved playing for.

i didn't necessarily like playing for my high school coach, but i sure as hell respected him.....cuz the guy was a winner. knew the game like nobody's biness!!!

 

[ndcoltsfan2010]

Kelly is exactly the kind of coach I loved playing for.

Same here. Had coaches that were always on your butt..., come to think of it alot like a drill sergeant. I've seen both, and I respected both. It always pushed me harder and made me better.

 

[IrishInColumbus]

If anyone has a problem with Kelly yelling, well I have just one thing to say to that:

I coached high school last season before I transferred into Ohio State. You could definitely categorize me as a "screamer," ( ) I was yelling 24/7. The players initially were like "who the **** is this guy?" but then when they realized I was teaching whilst being intense they loved it. It grew on the kids. We had one of the fiercest defenses in the conference with kids swarming all over the place and hitting hard. Who was the first person screaming his face off to congratulate him? Me.

Anyone who has a problem with Kelly getting in players' faces for making dumb mistakes is an idiot, and probably an effin' terrible parent too. "Oh, it's okay Billy, you'll do better next time. Here's a participation ribbon." That is the CYO mentality I had to get rid of last year at the school I coached, and it's the Charlie Weis I-look-like-I'm-ordering-food-when-I-look-at-my-play-sheet mentality Brian Kelly is trying to get rid of and personally I can't get enough of it.

My friends and I had a great laugh when we read Kelly's lisps saying "ARE YOU F*CKING KIDDING ME!?!!" to one of the players when he came off the field. I love it.

 

[eNDzone]

Charlie had some fire on the sideline before the 60 minutes interview. They suckered him into the interview and then picked him apart about his cussing. Charlie cleaned up his language on the sidelines but also lost any semblence of intensity in the process.

Some advice to Brian Kelly(and I hope he doesn't take advice from me or anybody else especially the media) is to be yourself. That means at practice and on the field.
Maybe if Kelly takes advice it should be from one of his favorite bands, U2. Like Bono says "Don't let the bastards get you down"

 

[TDHeysus]

My friends and I had a great laugh when we read Kelly's lisps saying "ARE YOU F*CKING KIDDING ME!?!!" to one of the players when he came off the field. I love it.

I saw this and chuckled at it too, it reminded me of playing football in HS. I also laughed when they cut to BK squaring up a few other players too.

I think things happen in football (on the practice field or in a game with TV cameras) that would not happen in 'real life'. We have all seen BK getting on players on the field, but do you think if BK was, say, teaching a class, that he would say those same things to one of his students? I would say absolutely not. I think most athletes have an understanding of this, and when the coaches get on them, or swear, they know its not the same as if their 3rd period teacher fbombed them in class for doing poorly on a test.

its such an over-used phrase, but how you react to pressure from a coach (whether he is yelling, or swearing, or however) builds character. its one of the things that you take(learn) from football that you will use your entire life.

there is a little of that ol' what happens in football, stays in football-thing going on....in this information age, there is just alot more access to see what is happening and what stays in football is getting leaked out.

 

[IrishAlum1997]

You'll see less yelling when the team starts executing. We should've beat BC by 35.

The smart kid always gets the most s*** because the teacher/parent/coach knows what they are capable of NOW. We have all the smart kids. They understand, and they appreciate it.

Now if we are up 49-0 on WMU and he's flipping out at every timeout or change of possession, I'll contest. But I really don't remember seeing this kind of venom from BK during the first 3 games. Perhaps its revisionist history. But 5 games in, we should know what we have on this team. We could win 35-10 Saturday, or lose in similar fashion. BK is trying to get this team to see the urgency.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I think that all of us should have a little concern about whether we know what we're talking about here. To have a strong opinion about this I'd want to be down there on the sidelines listening to how Kelly does it. Some guys are terrible at this "technique" and mess everything up. Some guys have the magic knack of handling it. I've seen the exact thing in basketball. We at Western once had a coach who was so horrible at this, that a former player stood up in the stands [in otherwise silent circumstances] and yelled "Coach! You're tearing his heart out!!!" I've also seen coaches who could really get in the shirts of players and turn the game around with good cop/ bad cop style criticism/praise. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I humbly suggest that the only real information on our current situation is in the minds of the players themselves. What do they think about it? Chris Stewart said something that i believe is probably accurate. "If you want to avoid him screaming at you, go out and do it right on the field next time". Te'o said something equally important: coach doesn't just scream at you; he always tells you how to do it correctly for the future. Neither Stewart nor Te'o seemed at all crushed by being yelled at. The only concern that I have about this is if by some bad luck Crist can't take it. THEN we need a different approach at least for him.

 

[DillonHall]

How did Turk kick the ball after Kelly got in his face? I'd say better and more consistently than he has all year

 

[irishtrain]

The guys coaching his butt off plain and simple. Has any great coach not had to get in a guys grill at times? Its a non point. If a coach he fails to do this he more than likely doesnt think much of his team.

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

The day he stops yelling is the day he stops careing....

I love the approuch...make mentally and physically strong young men...

 

[IrishInColumbus]

To be fair, another one of the coaches on the staff with me last season played under Nick Saban in college. When I asked him how that was he just smiled and said "I don't think he ever stopped screaming, ever."

Coaches yell. Some berate kids, but there's a HUGE difference. "Billy you've got to tear his f*cking head off the next time he pulls!!!!" is wayyyyy different than "You're slower than my retarded dead grandmother out there you f*ck!"

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

Disipline...is key to success...and BK has had to break some bad habits from the old coaching staff. He is teaching these kids how to expect to win.....thru all the fundementals and details of the game. To be honest I was not pulling for BK to get the job...because I do not like the spread...however I am impressed by BK.

 

[IrishinSyria]

When I was 7 years old, in my first year of playing competitive hockey, I gave up two bad goals in a game. My coach pulled me, and then the other one told me that "A f**king coat-hanger could have done a better job" than me loud enough that my parents heard it on the other side of the rink...

I think yelling is a tool in a coach's box. There's a time and a place for it. Personally, I don't mind the yelling so much as I minded Kelly's body language during the Michigan game: slumped shoulders, eye rolls, head dropped. I'd much rather, as a player, come back to the sidelines with a coach screaming at me then a coach dropping his eyes. The screamer believes you can do better. That being said, screaming at your punter does seem a little much; maybe he thought that if Ruffer was afraid of him he'd forget about the rest of the stuff that had apparently been screwing with his mind.

 

[NDFANnSouthWest]

I agree...there is a time and place for yelling. Its not all the time...if he yells and yells it loses its effectivntess.

 

[IrishInColumbus]

Plus I think we all need to realize we don't know any of the context. Literally none. We have no idea the conversations they have all week through practice. It's best to give a guy who all of his players respect and former players love and has been successful everywhere the benefit of the doubt.

I read some guy saying he needs to calm down because it was "harming Notre Dame's image" and because it was a Catholic university, so he shouldn't scream at his players. Give me a ****ing break. That man's idiocy does more harm than Kelly's coaching.

 

[Irish To The Core]

When I was 7 years old, in my first year of playing competitive hockey, I gave up two bad goals in a game. My coach pulled me, and then the other one told me that "A f**king coat-hanger could have done a better job" than me loud enough that my parents heard it on the other side of the rink...

I think yelling is a tool in a coach's box. There's a time and a place for it. Personally, I don't mind the yelling so much as I minded Kelly's body language during the Michigan game: slumped shoulders, eye rolls, head dropped. I'd much rather, as a player, come back to the sidelines with a coach screaming at me then a coach dropping his eyes. The screamer believes you can do better. That being said, screaming at your punter does seem a little much; maybe he thought that if Ruffer was afraid of him he'd forget about the rest of the stuff that had apparently been screwing with his mind.

Swearing at 7 year olds is the mark of a lunatic who lives vicariously through his team. These guys think the game is about them and they should be shown the door.

BK is working with elite athletes in a physical combat sport. Emotion and yelling can be perfectly acceptable IF THE COACH HAS EARNED THE TRUST OF THE PLAYERS. I believe the vast majority of our players have bought into BK's system. I have played for coaches who yelled me and if it is part of a relationship of trust and camaraderie, I guarantee that it fires a player up. If I were the target of that coach's wrath the guy opposite me was in for Hell the next series guaranteed. And like BK when I came off the field having stepped up my game, that coach would make sure he let everyone know that I was stepping it up...and that just pumped me up more. Players respect a coach who will not accept mediocrity. I hated when coaches said crap like "Nice try!" when I screwed up...it was like saying "You are not capable of playing any better." The weak-kneed praise everything coach's words soon mean nothing.

BK has had success because he is the whole package: the x's and o's...the motivation...the atmosphere. You just watch, in a year or two the Notre Dame players will have become so loyal and trusting of BK that they would do anything the man told them to do. This team is going to wake up the echoes...I am certain of that.

 

[IrishandColts]

who cares. That's the way he does it

 

[laservet]

I think yelling is a tool in a coach's box. There's a time and a place for it. Personally, I don't mind the yelling so much as I minded Kelly's body language during the Michigan game: slumped shoulders, eye rolls, head dropped. I'd much rather, as a player, come back to the sidelines with a coach screaming at me then a coach dropping his eyes. The screamer believes you can do better. That being said, screaming at your punter does seem a little much; maybe he thought that if Ruffer was afraid of him he'd forget about the rest of the stuff that had apparently been screwing with his mind.

Yeah, the eye rolling was kind of bush league, as was dropping the f-bomb on hapless players on national television. Someone must have jerked his chain short during halftime because in the second half he was very careful to turn away from the cameras before he ripped into the players.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Swearing at 7 year olds is the mark of a lunatic who lives vicariously through his team. These guys think the game is about them and they should be shown the door.

^^This

Reps.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

I love seeing the intensity. It's a large change after watching Weis look baffled and just standing there with his play sheet.

Again, I think it's all about results.

Weis looked baffled because bad things were happening for the last 3 years. If we had been 10-2, he would have looked calm and collected.