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ive only been reading since march, and posting since june, and i dont know much about the history of Irish Envy. From reading the news archives ive gathered that its been around for about 6 years, there was some kind of "event" that changed the website, and that Goshen Gipper was killed in a car accident. I'd love to learn more but other than those tid bits im clueless, it might be asking a lot from the older guys, but can i just get a brief history of IE? Thanks a lot!
 
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sorry reggie, your looking for the Microsoft forum, unfortunately its down due to a virus right now.
 
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Reggie Bush said:
I thought we were talking about Internet Explorer at first...lol
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Friggen lol. I think that too when I see "IE", although lately I think Irish Envy. And Mozilla Firefox and Opera and Chrome and...

But I agree with the "good question" post. I had also read this site extensively going back a while, and there seemed to be a break in stuff before I started chiming in. Seems like many went to GoldHelmet, which seems to be a twin site with super posters as well. I have been told both sites were started by Svoboda (try pronouncing that one...)...

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But the dynamics are beyond me.

I prefer this site for the graphics. Easier on the eye. (I only have one eye, the other one is covered...) Great posters on both sites. I prefer this one.
 
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ok this is funny, but seriously? can someone kinda tell me how this all came to be?
 
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Brief History of Irish Envy

Brief History of Irish Envy

A guy named Jason Svoboda aka Svo, boda, Irish Envy, and a half dozen other names, from Indianapolis started the board almost 6 years ago. He had a brother, cousin, or somebody he knew well who ran another board (Big 10?) his entrepenurial spirit led him to give it a go. IE started slowly. Same software as today but plain jane. It was about a year before the logo got developed through a contest. Then a guy was hired for something like $100 to finialize the logo. Members had a lot of suggestions. Membership grew and the site became a recruiting Mecca. We had members from around the country that feed in info on recruits in their local area and we had others that subscribed to recruiting services that shared info.
A year or so later (I'm not going into precise dates, details, and who) this board (and one or two others) was threatened with legal action by Mike Frank (his company before ISD) and another recruiting service (Jack Freeman's if I recall correctly) for posting premium articles and other articles from there sites. They threatened lawsuits and as the the sites they went after were all shoe string operations that did't have the resources for legal battles and all caved. I think all the threatened companies were put up for sale over time as the owner (one was a HS kid) couldn't live with the threats.
Svo put this board up for sale and it was bought by a Canadian entrepenuer purely as an investment opportunity. Svo was to provide administrative assistance for some time period as part of the sale which he did but not under his own name. He used a clever nom de plume. Offically he left because of unspecified job or family demands on time. No details were provided. As people learned of the new absentee landlord with no interest in ND except making a buck off the site. Readership waned. A volunteer administrater Tiger something or other, turned out to be an MSU fan. He wasn't a troll but that didn't help. Then some mods and members took it upon themselves to trash the site "to get even with that Canadian guy". It wasn't prettty.
An underground pirate site was set up and many key IE member and mods migrated there. This place became a sewer. It got pretty ugly.
Enter GoshenGipper, an ND Subway Alum, who lead the charge to rebuild the site. He was tireless as a poster, mediator, moderator, and cheerleader. He died about 2 years ago in a automobile accident.
Somewhere in this time frame Svo opened a new site with same software. It's around today.
IE went through another change of ownership and another decline around or after after GG's death. The board had a increase in trolls and smack (This is NOT a smack board) and a lack of moderators to update the board and maintain control. Those that tried to do an effective job were overwhelmed and exhausted.
About a year ago there was influx of new blood and the board went through another transition period. A bunch of posters were told to clean up their acts. Those who didn't lost their posting privileges. (Posting on IE is a privilege not a right. If you don't like the culture here, feel free to move on.) The recruiting forums were rejuvenated, football discussion grew, and Phammer expanded the graphics greatly. For those that aren't aware Phammer is full time ND student. He cracks the books, roots for ND and is the administrator (NOT owner of this site) in his copius free time. He does a lot of work (mostly unnoticed by the readers of this site) to keep this place running. None of the moderators own the site either. We're spread out across the country and most of us have never met and probably never will. But we do share a common interest, GCND.

GO IRISH!
 
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Awesome story, thanks for the insights BGIF. Appreciate all everyone does to keep this site going. Love the fact its not like an MLive forum where half the stuff you read is smack and bullshit. I don't have a lot of Irish fans up in my parts, so this has really been a great place for me to come on and get some great info/discussion regarding ND. I can honestly say it has deepened my love for Notre Dame Football! Go Irish.
 
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i been around here for awhile and mostly read but started posting more lately because the site has gotten alot better and not alot of trolls. the mods on here do a great job and don't really get alot of praise. U still have a few bad posters on here but near as many as before and that because of the work they have done to clean this siteup. I thank all the mods and aminsration for cleaning it up and giving us a place to talk about our beloved irish.
 
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nd1 said:
i been around here for awhile and mostly read but started posting more lately because the site has gotten alot better and not alot of trolls. the mods on here do a great job and don't really get alot of praise. U still have a few bad posters on here but near as many as before and that because of the work they have done to clean this siteup. I thank all the mods and aminsration for cleaning it up and giving us a place to talk about our beloved irish.
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What you trying to say beotch? You saying that I'm a bad poster? LOL LOL :)
 
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I have been a member/Poster since 2005, I chime in from time to time. Sometimes its Vulgar comedy, and I appeciate the MODS understanding of it. You guys have a tough job, but this board is ran very well. This has become the best MB on the net for Irish Fans.... Great Info, Really smart football people as members, and very few Message Board (MB) cliche's here........ Great work guys.
 
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BestBIrish47 said:
I have been a member/Poster since 2005, I chime in from time to time. Sometimes its Vulgar comedy, and I appeciate the MODS understanding of it. You guys have a tough job, but this board is ran very well. This has become the best MB on the net for Irish Fans.... Great Info, Really smart football people as members, and very few Message Board (MB) cliche's here........ Great work guys.
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Wow. So many great people here.
 
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GreatDayne this was a great topic.

I originally started reading threads about a year ago to get more info on recruiting and recently have started posting.

BGIF thanks for the brief history of the site. I must say you MODS do a great job and put in a ton of your time for the site. So thanks to all the mods for the time they put in.
 
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BGIF forgot to mention that ACamp guy... he has seen the world of Irish sites... and he is the light.
 
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BGIF said:
A guy named Jason Svoboda aka Svo, boda, Irish Envy, and a half dozen other names, from Indianapolis started the board almost 6 years ago. He had a brother, cousin, or somebody he knew well who ran another board (Big 10?) his entrepenurial spirit led him to give it a go. IE started slowly. Same software as today but plain jane. It was about a year before the logo got developed through a contest. Then a guy was hired for something like $100 to finialize the logo. Members had a lot of suggestions. Membership grew and the site became a recruiting Mecca. We had members from around the country that feed in info on recruits in their local area and we had others that subscribed to recruiting services that shared info.
A year or so later (I'm not going into precise dates, details, and who) this board (and one or two others) was threatened with legal action by Mike Frank (his company before ISD) and another recruiting service (Jack Freeman's if I recall correctly) for posting premium articles and other articles from there sites. They threatened lawsuits and as the the sites they went after were all shoe string operations that did't have the resources for legal battles and all caved. I think all the threatened companies were put up for sale over time as the owner (one was a HS kid) couldn't live with the threats.
Svo put this board up for sale and it was bought by a Canadian entrepenuer purely as an investment opportunity. Svo was to provide administrative assistance for some time period as part of the sale which he did but not under his own name. He used a clever nom de plume. Offically he left because of unspecified job or family demands on time. No details were provided. As people learned of the new absentee landlord with no interest in ND except making a buck off the site. Readership waned. A volunteer administrater Tiger something or other, turned out to be an MSU fan. He wasn't a troll but that didn't help. Then some mods and members took it upon themselves to trash the site "to get even with that Canadian guy". It wasn't prettty.
An underground pirate site was set up and many key IE member and mods migrated there. This place became a sewer. It got pretty ugly.
Enter GoshenGipper, an ND Subway Alum, who lead the charge to rebuild the site. He was tireless as a poster, mediator, moderator, and cheerleader. He died about 2 years ago in a automobile accident.
Somewhere in this time frame Svo opened a new site with same software. It's around today.
IE went through another change of ownership and another decline around or after after GG's death. The board had a increase in trolls and smack (This is NOT a smack board) and a lack of moderators to update the board and maintain control. Those that tried to do an effective job were overwhelmed and exhausted.
About a year ago there was influx of new blood and the board went through another transition period. A bunch of posters were told to clean up their acts. Those who didn't lost their posting privileges. (Posting on IE is a privilege not a right. If you don't like the culture here, feel free to move on.) The recruiting forums were rejuvenated, football discussion grew, and Phammer expanded the graphics greatly. For those that aren't aware Phammer is full time ND student. He cracks the books, roots for ND and is the administrator (NOT owner of this site) in his copius free time. He does a lot of work (mostly unnoticed by the readers of this site) to keep this place running. None of the moderators own the site either. We're spread out across the country and most of us have never met and probably never will. But we do share a common interest, GCND.

GO IRISH!
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no mention of Spinner??? weird :laugh:
 
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ACamp1900 said:
or Camper, or other classics like HCTI, scooper or Jigga...

among others...


I protest that post BG.

;)
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I got the wink but once again for the reading challenged,

I'm not going into precise dates, details, and who
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With the exception of Svoboda, GG, and Phammer I specifically didn't mention IE people. I could but that would fill up a thread entitlted, "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" (waa, waa, waa). Some things are better left in the past.

Actually there was is a sentence in the latter half of the post that had you in mind when I typed it. I remember how I got to be a mod for the second time here.
 
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BGIF said:
A guy named Jason Svoboda aka Svo, boda, Irish Envy, and a half dozen other names, from Indianapolis started the board almost 6 years ago. He had a brother, cousin, or somebody he knew well who ran another board (Big 10?) his entrepenurial spirit led him to give it a go. IE started slowly. Same software as today but plain jane. It was about a year before the logo got developed through a contest. Then a guy was hired for something like $100 to finialize the logo. Members had a lot of suggestions. Membership grew and the site became a recruiting Mecca. We had members from around the country that feed in info on recruits in their local area and we had others that subscribed to recruiting services that shared info.
A year or so later (I'm not going into precise dates, details, and who) this board (and one or two others) was threatened with legal action by Mike Frank (his company before ISD) and another recruiting service (Jack Freeman's if I recall correctly) for posting premium articles and other articles from there sites. They threatened lawsuits and as the the sites they went after were all shoe string operations that did't have the resources for legal battles and all caved. I think all the threatened companies were put up for sale over time as the owner (one was a HS kid) couldn't live with the threats.
Svo put this board up for sale and it was bought by a Canadian entrepenuer purely as an investment opportunity. Svo was to provide administrative assistance for some time period as part of the sale which he did but not under his own name. He used a clever nom de plume. Offically he left because of unspecified job or family demands on time. No details were provided. As people learned of the new absentee landlord with no interest in ND except making a buck off the site. Readership waned. A volunteer administrater Tiger something or other, turned out to be an MSU fan. He wasn't a troll but that didn't help. Then some mods and members took it upon themselves to trash the site "to get even with that Canadian guy". It wasn't prettty.
An underground pirate site was set up and many key IE member and mods migrated there. This place became a sewer. It got pretty ugly.
Enter GoshenGipper, an ND Subway Alum, who lead the charge to rebuild the site. He was tireless as a poster, mediator, moderator, and cheerleader. He died about 2 years ago in a automobile accident.
Somewhere in this time frame Svo opened a new site with same software. It's around today.
IE went through another change of ownership and another decline around or after after GG's death. The board had a increase in trolls and smack (This is NOT a smack board) and a lack of moderators to update the board and maintain control. Those that tried to do an effective job were overwhelmed and exhausted.
About a year ago there was influx of new blood and the board went through another transition period. A bunch of posters were told to clean up their acts. Those who didn't lost their posting privileges. (Posting on IE is a privilege not a right. If you don't like the culture here, feel free to move on.) The recruiting forums were rejuvenated, football discussion grew, and Phammer expanded the graphics greatly. For those that aren't aware Phammer is full time ND student. He cracks the books, roots for ND and is the administrator (NOT owner of this site) in his copius free time. He does a lot of work (mostly unnoticed by the readers of this site) to keep this place running. None of the moderators own the site either. We're spread out across the country and most of us have never met and probably never will. But we do share a common interest, GCND.

GO IRISH!
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Oh sure... blame Canada!
 
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Wow thats incredible, thanks so much BGIF, youve really seen it all, i was wondering about how some of the paid sites dealt with you guys, its an amazing story of a rise, a fall, a great restoration, a second fall from glory and a return. Hmm rockne through Leahy, restored by ara, fell out of glory, then returned by holtz (kelly?) wow you could write a book about this website, or at least a large pamphlet. I do remember coming through IE a few years back, saw a lot of trolling so i drifted away, but glad that IE is back and growing fast. Were gunna need a lot of numbers for the massive celebration of ND's 13th. And now i realize why you held Goshen Gipper in such high regard, i often find myself reading through some of his old posts, he completely revived this place, its like the story of Noahs Ark, one average person is called to save a great group of people and friends, well he has the best seats in the house now. Thankyou again for telling me this amazing, and touching story of how a small group of fans with a forum went up and were knocked down by the big boys, then with the help of dedicated fans, rose out of the ashes to become one of the leading gathering places for all irish fans. Thankyou BGIF for all youve done for me, for this website, and for all the irish fans out there.
 
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We had some good conversations back in the beginning, but the board went down hill for a few years. I'm glad to see it has bounced back. I don't post much but I've been a loyal reader since 04. :)
 
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i never knew IE had a beginning i just thought its always existed from the beginning of time, wow how i was misinformed
 
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