'Coach Weis Will Not Get Fired Because Of Me'

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Slight poor choice of words, but this is the swagger of a leader. Let's hope he backs this up on the field.
 

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Clausen says this: "I'm taking it personally. Coach Weis will not get fired because of me."

Hard to comment on one line of an out of context quote. But I see this as JC taking responsibility, I dont see an arrogant comment. Now, maybe when read within the context of the whole article it will come across as more of arrogant comment. But my initial response is that it looks like JC is stepping up and being accountable. At least I hope that is what I read, heh.
 

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If anything, he'll get fired if they still can't block or tackle.
 

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If anything, he'll get fired if they still can't block or tackle.

yep and I have to believe if Jimmy keeps lobbing up jump balls in key spots he won't get enough playing time to be the reason coach gets fired
 

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yep and I have to believe if Jimmy keeps lobbing up jump balls in key spots he won't get enough playing time to be the reason coach gets fired

Then we are in major trouble because Crist has a hell of an arm but cant hit the broadside of a barn
 

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yep and I have to believe if Jimmy keeps lobbing up jump balls in key spots he won't get enough playing time to be the reason coach gets fired

lol...this is a joke right?

JC will see every minute of every game this year, barring injury.
 

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If we don't finish in the top 25 I think Weis will be sent packing. He at least is guaranteed until the SC game. If we lose to SC and have a record worse than .500 I think they dump Charlie mid-season. (a record <.500 at this point would be an absolute disaster and a worst case scenario I think)

Of course I don't believe any of that is going to happen. We should be at the very least gator bowl bound this year, with anything better than 9 wins hopefully getting us back to a BCS bowl. It would take an undefeated season with a 20+ point win over SC for us to have a chance to compete for the title. So I think he will be back for Jimmy's senior year.

That is the year where Jimmy really holds Weis' job in his hands. If this team doesn't make a BCS bowl in the next two years it would be a huge disappointment. Considering the talent and potential of this team I think letting him go then would be the only move. For now though Coach Weis has my confidence.
 

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I don't want to hear it. I want to see it.

exactly. put up or shut up. no one cares what people say, they care what people do. JC hasnt proven anything yet.

if charlie doesnt win 9 games he will be fired, if he doesnt win 10 games he should be fired. yes the team must accomplish this, but hopefully charlie gets that offensive mind back that he had the first two years and not the last two.
 

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It would take an undefeated season with a 20+ point win over SC for us to have a chance to compete for the title.

While I agree it will take an undefeated season, I don't think the point spread matters. We are both loved and hated in the media. If we are undefeated, the possibility of ND vs. Florida for a title would be too irresistable for the media and NCAA. With all the Urban to ND stories in recent years and the revenue that will be generated by that matchup, you could almost guarantee it. I could be wrong, but money drives everything and ND will bring money to the table.
 

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What Jimmy said was " I intend to play my heart out and do all that I can to keep Charlie Weis as our coach." I think he was putting forth a challenge to the rest of the team to do likewise. It was a leadership statement similar to the challenge Tim Tebow put forth...and, which incidentally, his statement was cast in bronze and now hangs outside the stadium. I give Jimmy one big "atta-boy" for speaking out.
 

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if charlie doesnt win 9 games he will be fired, if he doesnt win 10 games he should be fired.

and how long will your new coach take to make ND a winner? 2, 3, 4 MORE seasons? I'm sure that new coach will also pick up in recruiting right where CW left off...and I'm sure there would be no transfers from existing players if CW is shit-canned.

Firing CW would be like quitting your job, preferring to be broke and homeless, because your boss said something to you that made you upset. it doesnt make sense.
 
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If we don't finish in the top 25 I think Weis will be sent packing. He at least is guaranteed until the SC game. If we lose to SC and have a record worse than .500 I think they dump Charlie mid-season. (a record <.500 at this point would be an absolute disaster and a worst case scenario I think)

Weis won't be gone mid-season regardless of the record b/c Notre Dame will not fire a coach mid-season.
 

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Charlie has shown that he's an excellent caretaker of inherited talent and an effective recruiter. What he hasn't exhibited, as yet, is an ability to motivate, galvanize and coach at the college level. This could well be a watershed season for both Weis and ND's football program. Then again, two losses won't necessarily mark the end of the Weis era ... as long as one of the two is not to USC.
 

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Charlie has shown that he's an excellent caretaker of inherited talent and an effective recruiter. What he hasn't exhibited, as yet, is an ability to motivate, galvanize and coach at the college level.

I don't think it as cut and dried as you present it, here. The team has definitely underachieved in the past few seasons, yes. But how do you explain the turnaround of the offense, between Willingham's last year, and Weis' first? It was almost exactly the same personnel, but the production vastly increased. Mo Stovall went from being an underacheiver, to being an NFL player. Jeff Samardzija went from being practically non-existent, to being one of the better receivers in college football. Brady Quinn went from being incredibly mediocre, to being a first round draft pick. The offense averaged 345.5 yards and 24.08 points per game in 2004. In 2005, they averaged 477.33 yards and 36.67 points per game. They played essentially the same schedule, as well. In 2004 they played Boston College, they played Syracuse in 2005. Other than that one game, the schedule was the same. All of this points to the fact that Weis CAN successfully coach at the college level. He (his staff) certainly hasn't done a consistent job of it. Perhaps that is the result of trying different things each year, to see what works and what doesn't. And perhaps it is the result of pure dumb luck in the good years. But to say he hasn't exhibited any ability to coach, motivate, etc., at the college level is subjective, at best.
 

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and how long will your new coach take to make ND a winner? 2, 3, 4 MORE seasons? I'm sure that new coach will also pick up in recruiting right where CW left off...and I'm sure there would be no transfers from existing players if CW is shit-canned.

Firing CW would be like quitting your job, preferring to be broke and homeless, because your boss said something to you that made you upset. it doesnt make sense.

actually yes if i got the choice of coaches, easy winning season the first year (probably BCS), and a national championship within 3years guaranteed. Urban Meyer has turned around every program he has been at. Plus probably he would be better at recruiting than CW IMO. He is the one who has taken 2 big recruits from charlie the past 3 years, and has consistently shown he knows how to win recruiting battles head to head with CW.

Charlie needs to win, or charlie needs to be fired, plain and simple. He even knows that. Dont say Charlie getting fired for not winning doesnt make sense because you dont know what you are talking about.

This thread reminds me of Jimmy saying "im going to go to Notre Dame and win 4 national championships" when he committed. Talk is cheap, and Jimmy has proven to do alot of it without backing it up.
 

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This thread reminds me of Jimmy saying "im going to go to Notre Dame and win 4 national championships" when he committed. Talk is cheap, and Jimmy has proven to do alot of it without backing it up.

He said that was his goal, but you also said Dayne Crist was a top 5 QB in college football so this doesn't suprise me in the least.
 

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He said that was his goal, but you also said Dayne Crist was a top 5 QB in college football so this doesn't suprise me in the least.

Actually he didnt say it was his goal, he technically said "thats why im coming here, to try to get four national championship rings on our fingers." so my bad. he hasnt come even close yet, and he only has two years left to get his first. and as for the Crist thing, that was a joke there dummy, though i do personally think he has the capabilities to be a top 5 QB eventually.
 
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