'27 LA OL Albert Simien (Notre Dame Verbal)

[SeekNDestroy]

Not every player will hit. But if 6 do, we got a natty ol

To expand on your point, the recruiting services have gotten really good at identifying the 5 star guys. About half become great players. The more 5 stars we get, the better the odds that we end up with some studs. Absolutely love the probabilities of having elite guys on OL and DL.

 

[allenm5333]

To expand on your point, the recruiting services have gotten really good at identifying the 5 star guys. About half become great players. The more 5 stars we get, the better the odds that we end up with some studs. Absolutely love the probabilities of having elite guys on OL and DL.

Yessir. We legit have a 2 deep of championship depth at ol and dl on these classes alone. Players like Thom, Tiki, etc were Bk level players we could win 10 games with. They are now depth/developmental guys. Beautiful times

 

[Old Man Mike]

The persuasive power of the strong, quiet, civilized, friendly man. ... and the civilized, talent-filled, spiritual place that he can call temporary Home.

 

[NDFAN2008]

So, with Simien's massive cherry on top of the '27 Oline commit class, thought it'd be entertaining to rank those players.

1) Albert Simien 6'3 295- a no doubt about it Q Nelson clone at the top of the haul

2) Grayson McKeogh 6'7 298- prototype has all the makings to continue ND's1st rd pick tackle lineage.

3) Oluwasemilore Olubobola 6'6 295- toss up with McKeough- just an embarrassment of riches that one is slotted #3.

4) Sullivan Garvin 6'5 315- my surprise pick, plus size and athleticism at center if Herron doesn't lock it down first.

5) James Halter 6'5 270- in the mold of some high ceiling/ low floor prospects of the past. If he can add his dad's size, he can shoot up this list.

6) Gregory Patrick 6'6 281- high floor kid who cracks the lineup of he adds requisite size. Bonus looks to have grown a couple inches since committing.

7) Tyler Merrill 6'6 330- monster at guard in the midst of reshaping that size. Big Oak's potential is all about if he can become a bit better athlete at that size.

8) Richie Flanigan 6'3 280- likely way too low on this list. Stupid to bet against a Flanigan given their penchant for violence.

9) Ben Nichols 6'5 320- see Tyler Merrill.

10) Charlie Thom 6'7 275- he'll likely either be at the bottom or near the top of this list. 1st rd potential, but a big "if" and a long way to go. Let him bake.

11) Jackson Hill 6'4 300- Nasty player who likely knows the odds in front of him. Perfect guy to take a flyer on given the 2 class group Rudolph has assembled.

I’m high on Merrill i think he’s a future 1st-2nd rounder

 

[Domina Nostra]

Not every player will hit. But if 6 do, we got a natty ol

Really only need about 4-5 to hit to be great. Can always count on a young guy or a transfer. And a good coach can work around one softer spot.

 

[allenm5333]

Really only need about 4-5 to hit to be great. Can always count on a young guy or a transfer. And a good coach can work around one softer spot.

Yea I agree on most of this. 4-5 in a 2 year window is great because one could be filled in the other 3 years (5 for 5). But while a good coach can work around one softer spot...Screw that. Let's get 5 dominate OL on the same unit

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

So, with Simien's massive cherry on top of the '27 Oline commit class, thought it'd be entertaining to rank those players.

1) Albert Simien 6'3 295- a no doubt about it Q Nelson clone at the top of the haul

2) Grayson McKeogh 6'7 298- prototype has all the makings to continue ND's1st rd pick tackle lineage.

3) Oluwasemilore Olubobola 6'6 295- toss up with McKeough- just an embarrassment of riches that one is slotted #3.

4) Sullivan Garvin 6'5 315- my surprise pick, plus size and athleticism at center if Herron doesn't lock it down first.

5) James Halter 6'5 270- in the mold of some high ceiling/ low floor prospects of the past. If he can add his dad's size, he can shoot up this list.

6) Gregory Patrick 6'6 281- high floor kid who cracks the lineup of he adds requisite size. Bonus looks to have grown a couple inches since committing.

7) Tyler Merrill 6'6 330- monster at guard in the midst of reshaping that size. Big Oak's potential is all about if he can become a bit better athlete at that size.

8) Richie Flanigan 6'3 280- likely way too low on this list. Stupid to bet against a Flanigan given their penchant for violence.

9) Ben Nichols 6'5 320- see Tyler Merrill.

10) Charlie Thom 6'7 275- he'll likely either be at the bottom or near the top of this list. 1st rd potential, but a big "if" and a long way to go. Let him bake.

11) Jackson Hill 6'4 300- Nasty player who likely knows the odds in front of him. Perfect guy to take a flyer on given the 2 class group Rudolph has assembled.

Add them with the prior class of Will Black, Matty Augustine, Cam Herron and Owen Strebig.

2 are already perceived hits and Cam Herron, if he can keep adding weight sounds like he'll challenge for center. Strebig is still TBD/developing. That's a lot of talent on the OL.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

So, with Simien's massive cherry on top of the '27 Oline commit class, thought it'd be entertaining to rank those players.

1) Albert Simien 6'3 295- a no doubt about it Q Nelson clone at the top of the haul

2) Grayson McKeogh 6'7 298- prototype has all the makings to continue ND's1st rd pick tackle lineage.

3) Oluwasemilore Olubobola 6'6 295- toss up with McKeough- just an embarrassment of riches that one is slotted #3.

4) Sullivan Garvin 6'5 315- my surprise pick, plus size and athleticism at center if Herron doesn't lock it down first.

5) James Halter 6'5 270- in the mold of some high ceiling/ low floor prospects of the past. If he can add his dad's size, he can shoot up this list.

6) Gregory Patrick 6'6 281- high floor kid who cracks the lineup of he adds requisite size. Bonus looks to have grown a couple inches since committing.

7) Tyler Merrill 6'6 330- monster at guard in the midst of reshaping that size. Big Oak's potential is all about if he can become a bit better athlete at that size.

8) Richie Flanigan 6'3 280- likely way too low on this list. Stupid to bet against a Flanigan given their penchant for violence.

9) Ben Nichols 6'5 320- see Tyler Merrill.

10) Charlie Thom 6'7 275- he'll likely either be at the bottom or near the top of this list. 1st rd potential, but a big "if" and a long way to go. Let him bake.

11) Jackson Hill 6'4 300- Nasty player who likely knows the odds in front of him. Perfect guy to take a flyer on given the 2 class group Rudolph has assembled.

Why did you leave out Will Black?

 

[KPENN]

Why did you leave out Will Black?

It’s just the past 2 classes

 

[SeekNDestroy]

It’s just the past 2 classes

I was thinking Black was a sophomore academically.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Practical reminders:
1. The OLine coach typically preps "ten" heavily, but counts on using only 7 or 8 in actuality. (It's why in the old days even power teams usually recruited "4" on average per year. -- guys stayed 5 years/mostly all red-shirting etc.) You don't really have to "hit" five times a year and have 20 good OLs sitting there.
2. Notre Dame has typically beaten the hit rates anyway (Olinemen have to be intelligent to play high level ball, and very disciplined. "Measurables" aren't the whole story. Notre Dame recruits "smart" and disciplined for more than one reason. That and good coaching is why our OLines are valued in the NFL; TEs similarly, by the way), and that's also why we get so many veteran transfers going elsewhere lately. (We have "extras"). So, OK, stock up; but the cream of the crop will usually stick for several years and the Coach really "needs" only about 10 in any season unless really unlucky.

Point of the post: Relax guys. "We good. ... We more than good."

 

[IAIrish]

I was thinking Black was a sophomore academically.

He is- my list was this year's freshman and HS seniors.

 

[allenm5333]

He is- my list was this year's freshman and HS seniors.

To help everyone- 26 and 27 classes lol

 

[SeekNDestroy]

He is- my list was this year's freshman and HS seniors.

I’m an idiot.

 

[IAIrish]

I’m an idiot.

Right there with ya buddy.

 

[PolishDomer]

I’m an idiot.

 

[Irish#1]

I’m an idiot.

I won’t argue the point. 😜

 

[NorthDakota]

I’m an idiot.

You arent alone

 

[SeekNDestroy]

You arent alone

Thank you?

 

[irishnd31]

I’m an idiot.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Big Boy.

 

[bpob55]

 

[Old Man Mike]

 

[Huntr]

Which bitch ass SEC school does a brother gotta hat fake to get this pinned?

 

[FollowTheFreeman]

Huge get, I live down in Louisiana and local buzz is that the community absolutely adores him and basically the whole town is supportive and thrilled that he's going to ND.

 

[Mavericknyc1980]

What a tremendous get.