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Flash poll, which Harrison Ford character is more iconic? Indiana Jones or Han Solo? My vote is Indy. I'm only halfway through my first cup of coffee so I won't expound greatly but I think that Indiana Jones was such a top to bottom iconic creation; the hat, jacket, and whip. How he balanced the intellectual with the physical, using brainpower as much as brawn to deal with adversity. Han Solo is cool & a big part of the Star Wars franchises success but Indiana Jones is arguably on the Mt. Rushmore of original Hollywood characters (Rough-and-tumble, action/adventure division).
 
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Black Irish said:
Flash poll, which Harrison Ford character is more iconic? Indiana Jones or Han Solo? My vote is Indy. I'm only halfway through my first cup of coffee so I won't expound greatly but I think that Indiana Jones was such a top to bottom iconic creation; the hat, jacket, and whip. How he balanced the intellectual with the physical, using brainpower as much as brawn to deal with adversity. Han Solo is cool & a big part of the Star Wars franchises success but Indiana Jones is arguably on the Mt. Rushmore of original Hollywood characters (Rough-and-tumble, action/adventure division).
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Indy. Both are great characters and Harrison is A+ in both, but he's a secondary (third even?) character in Star Wars.
 
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Black Irish said:
Flash poll, which Harrison Ford character is more iconic? Indiana Jones or Han Solo? My vote is Indy. I'm only halfway through my first cup of coffee so I won't expound greatly but I think that Indiana Jones was such a top to bottom iconic creation; the hat, jacket, and whip. How he balanced the intellectual with the physical, using brainpower as much as brawn to deal with adversity. Han Solo is cool & a big part of the Star Wars franchises success but Indiana Jones is arguably on the Mt. Rushmore of original Hollywood characters (Rough-and-tumble, action/adventure division).
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Indy, although these last couple movies have hurt the case.
 
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Black Irish said:
Flash poll, which Harrison Ford character is more iconic? Indiana Jones or Han Solo? My vote is Indy. I'm only halfway through my first cup of coffee so I won't expound greatly but I think that Indiana Jones was such a top to bottom iconic creation; the hat, jacket, and whip. How he balanced the intellectual with the physical, using brainpower as much as brawn to deal with adversity. Han Solo is cool & a big part of the Star Wars franchises success but Indiana Jones is arguably on the Mt. Rushmore of original Hollywood characters (Rough-and-tumble, action/adventure division).
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Indy and it’s not close. Start Wars is ghey.
 
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Jimmy3Putt said:
Indy and it’s not close. Start Wars is ghey.
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Star Wars and Indiana Jones are similar in that they both have two great movies and one mediocre movie in their respective trilogies. They are also similar in that I'd like to forget that anything else that came out after them.

Indiana is much more of an iconic role though. Even his reveal in Raiders is instant cinema legend stuff.

 
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Star Wars and Indiana Jones are similar in that they both have two great movies and one mediocre movie in their respective trilogies. They are also similar in that I'd like to forget that anything else that came out after them.

Indiana is much more of an iconic role though. Even his reveal in Raiders is instant cinema legend stuff.

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Disagree about a bad movie in the Raiders trilogy.
Temple of Doom was awesome when I watched it as an eleven year old. The mine car chase and bridge fight scene were mind blowing. The opening restaurant fight and plane crash has me hooked from the first minute.
 
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Disagree about a bad movie in the Raiders trilogy.
Temple of Doom was awesome when I watched it as an eleven year old. The mine car chase and bridge fight scene were mind blowing. The opening restaurant fight and plane crash has me hooked from the first minute.
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I actually agree with the idea that Temple and Jedi were a step down from the other two,... but disagree with either being mediocre. I think both are really good movies, but are understandably underappreciated, given that they're contrasted against all-time classics.
 
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Disagree about a bad movie in the Raiders trilogy.
Temple of Doom was awesome when I watched it as an eleven year old. The mine car chase and bridge fight scene were mind blowing. The opening restaurant fight and plane crash has me hooked from the first minute.
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I don't think it's bad, I just think it's mediocre compared to the others. Raiders and Last Crusade would be iconic movies even if they were unrelated to one another. Temple of Doom would have been enjoyed as an adventure movie in its day but not remembered today if it wasn't the middle episode. It also doesnt have the Judeo-Christian angle that I think makes Indiana Jones so interesting. Raiders is an intensely jewish movie by a Jewish director and Last Crusade is a very Chrisitian followup.

The mine cart scene at the end is dope as hell though.
 
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I think the original question is the exact same dynamic,... Han Solo is Temple and Jedi, Indy is Raiders, Star Wars etc,... It's an easy choice, but not because Han sucks or is mediocre.
 
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I don't think it's bad, I just think it's mediocre compared to the others. Raiders and Last Crusade would be iconic movies even if they were unrelated to one another. Temple of Doom would have been enjoyed as an adventure movie in its day but not remembered today if it wasn't the middle episode. It also doesnt have the Judeo-Christian angle that I think makes Indiana Jones so interesting. Raiders is an intensely jewish movie by a Jewish director and Last Crusade is a very Chrisitian followup.

The mine cart scene at the end is dope as hell though.
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Interesting point I hadn’t considered. Maybe Spielberg should’ve thrown some Nazis in the mines?
 
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Indy is the titular character. Kinda hard to argue Han is more iconic. That being said Star Wars clears Indiana Jones easily. ESB is the best film of either franchise. Both original trilogies are 2 fantastic movies + 1 very good one. Beyond that Star Wars has a few standout hits while Indy has basically nothing of value.
 
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I'll take watching the Indy trilogy over the Star Wars trilogy any day. I like Star Wars, but I've always been a bigger fan of the Indy movies and that's just gotten stronger as I've gotten older. Spielberg being at the helm of those films is a big leg up. The man knows how to pull together a rollicking adventure flick.
 
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Spielberg being at the helm of those films is a big leg up.
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There's actually an interesting experimental version of Raiders that Stephen Sodenberg put on his website where he made the movie black and white and replaced the sound with some unrelated soundtrack from Trent Reznor. If you're into film study it's worth a watch because it forces you to recognize how insanely gifted Speilberg is at blocking and planning his shots. You could be someone who has never seen the original movie and you would still know exactly what is going on in every scene because the way he composes his scenes tell the story so well.
 
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The question was about roles, not movies, right? Indiana Jones is what he's best remembered for. Indian Jones is the main character and had several movies created around the character. Hans Solo was a great part, but it was more of a supporting role character.
 
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Disagree here,… to me it’s the only movie after Jedi that is worth keeping in the canon,… they should retcon everything else imo
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Agreed as far as the movies go. It's a shame because I think 7 actually was a decent setup and then Rian Johnson took a sloppy shit for 2.5 hours in TLJ and ruined it all.
 
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I thought TFA was dreadful and left the theater thinking, ‘well, I assume they’re setting up something amazing,….’

To think it got decidedly worse, smh
 
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