Trump Presidency Round 2

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I can see why the left and anti-American propagandists are so quick to try and discredit this operation. It’s clearly going quite well. The people who led the way in evacuating embassies are concerned about this administration and this Department of War. Comical.

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Meanwhile in the actual reality, not the la la land Pete lives in

Of course the traffic through the strait of Hormuz is down. It’s a narrow passage through a fucking warzone. That’s why they destroyed the navy. That’s why they are trying to restore traffic. It’s been days. That’s also reality. If they have it open in the next week that would be amazing.



Fortunately, the adults acted-



Ohh wait, that one was you- sorry

If the left and losers like this were to decide- we would have a nuclear Iran. This is why the people who cry about Trump holding our alliances accountable aren’t serious. Spain, France, and the UK are not serious allies.

https://twitter.com/sfmcguire79/status/2029011131197477166?s=46&t=AVkNfv1va-fozK_EKPnZfQ

 

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Of course the traffic through the strait of Hormuz is down. It’s a narrow passage through a fucking warzone. That’s why they destroyed the navy. That’s why they are trying to restore traffic. It’s been days. That’s also reality. If they have it open in the next week that would be amazing.



Fortunately, the adults acted-



Ohh wait, that one was you- sorry

If the left and losers like this were to decide- we would have a nuclear Iran. This is why the people who cry about Trump holding our alliances accountable aren’t serious. Spain, France, and the UK are not serious allies.




The adults acted and had a plan to get Americans out?
 

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We also don’t really have enough information to definitively say that a missile hit the school. The only news reporting on it is sourced from the Iranian Regime itself.

Also why do you think you would have access to any of the underlying assumptions and expectations of top secret military plans?
My understanding is that independent news agencies have largely confirmed the fact of the school being destroyed using satellite imagery and other OSINT.

Re access to top secret plans, I guess fair enough, maybe Trump and Hegseth are playing retards on TV as part of some 18 d chess, but I can only judge what I’m seeing and compare it to my experience of going to war in Afghanistan. And what I’m seeing is an admin who (apparently) hadn’t thought that it would need to protect global shipping lanes through the straight of Hormuz until after four days of war and after multiple tankers were hit. An admin whose apparent “worst case scenario” is that Khamenei is replaced by someone we equally don’t like and whose “ideal” scenario is one where only one or two people lose their jobs (oops). An admin that’s openly weighing whether or not to encourage Kurdish militias to pick up arms against the regime. An admin who can’t agree on whether or not Israel forced our hand by telling us they were going to strike with or without us.

None of this conveys a well thought out plan for anything other than a massive air campaign. Which I don’t doubt for a second will cripple Iran’s strategic level forces, but that’s the easy part.
 

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How is this fucking possible. I’m certain that DIA didn’t miss the impact of cheap drones in Ukraine or Azerbaijan.

 

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I can see why the left and anti-American propagandists are so quick to try and discredit this operation. It’s clearly going quite well. The people who led the way in evacuating embassies are concerned about this administration and this Department of War. Comical.

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RDU Irish

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I love the blind trust of western news sources while completely dismissing anything that isn't deep throating Israel/US interests. You can't trust ANY "news" in times of war (or most of the time for that matter) and anyone who trusts Israel on any level really - good luck.

All of that doesn't mean we can't root for our troops to efficiently and effectively vaporizing IRGC from the top down and find an offramp for a better Iranian leadership. Once the decision is made to move this direction you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
 

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It has been obvious, even to many of the higher republican leaders in DC, from the time of his grilling/vetting before his installation as Sec of Defense, that this Hegseth person was astoundingly unqualified. But, since I've seen unqualified appointees before, I crossed my fingers and hoped that the career professionals would carry his incompetent TV personality through whatever costume-playing he was about to engage in (same for several other embarrassments on the cabinet), and we'd trudge through the shit produced by his office generally intact as far as intelligent and well-thought through decisions were concerned. All the quick firings/dismissals/silencings started really worrying me though. Now I just hope that generally good advice still bubbles up from the career operatives and is employed at least after the smiling TV-actor goons realize that they've acted "strongly" (for the public) but with about one or two dimensions of a problem in mind, when the plan needed eleven or twelve dimensions at a minimum. When compared to the intellectual AND knowledge requirements of his job, Hegseth is a scary moron. We need to root for the "underlings" here -- the career experts who should be being employed to anchor and rudder the Big Ship. Will Trump ever realize that this is where our knowledge and insight resides? I doubt it.THAT requires thinking complexly and long and something other than himself.
 

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It has been obvious, even to many of the higher republican leaders in DC, from the time of his grilling/vetting before his installation as Sec of Defense, that this Hegseth person was astoundingly unqualified. But, since I've seen unqualified appointees before, I crossed my fingers and hoped that the career professionals would carry his incompetent TV personality through whatever costume-playing he was about to engage in (same for several other embarrassments on the cabinet), and we'd trudge through the shit produced by his office generally intact as far as intelligent and well-thought through decisions were concerned. All the quick firings/dismissals/silencings started really worrying me though. Now I just hope that generally good advice still bubbles up from the career operatives and is employed at least after the smiling TV-actor goons realize that they've acted "strongly" (for the public) but with about one or two dimensions of a problem in mind, when the plan needed eleven or twelve dimensions at a minimum. When compared to the intellectual AND knowledge requirements of his job, Hegseth is a scary moron. We need to root for the "underlings" here -- the career experts who should be being employed to anchor and rudder the Big Ship. Will Trump ever realize that this is where our knowledge and insight resides? I doubt it.THAT requires thinking complexly and long and something other than himself.

He is a Christian Nationalist who throws a great prayer breakfast... He's in over his head.
 

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... a Christian who throws a great Prayer breakfast ... I didn't even suspect he was a Christian.

I'm a Catholic and work pretty hard at it (not hard enough for back-patting, OK, but I try.) My first thought after "breakfast" and morning prayers is not to call out the Stealth Bombers to blast people "in my way." (even in my imagination.) How are the two things living together?
 

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... a Christian who throws a great Prayer breakfast ... I didn't even suspect he was a Christian.

I'm a Catholic and work pretty hard at it (not hard enough for back-patting, OK, but I try.) My first thought after "breakfast" and morning prayers is not to call out the Stealth Bombers to blast people "in my way." (even in my imagination.) How are the two things living together?
How are Christians living together with their god smiting enemies in the Bible and destroying enemy nations or cities that were a threat to his people? Probably the same way, I suppose.
 

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Our military has performed as close to absolutely flawlessly as possible over the past year. It is folly to believe that Hegseth is dangerous because he doesn’t have expertise. Hegseth has enough wisdom to let the actual experts (the warfighting generalship) make the recommendations for operational planning without letting career pentagon bureaucrats insert themselves.
 

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Our military has performed as close to absolutely flawlessly as possible over the past year. It is folly to believe that Hegseth is dangerous because he doesn’t have expertise. Hegseth has enough wisdom to let the actual experts (the warfighting generalship) make the recommendations for operational planning without letting career pentagon bureaucrats insert themselves.

As much as I don't like the actions - I can't argue the operational excellence in Venezuela and Iran with an incredible lack of leaks.
 

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I think the stance that we are only being brought into this war because Israel is making us is a slap in the face of the 1000+ gold star families of those killed by the terrorist leadership of Iran
 
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