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Bishop2b5

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That's because you fundamentally don't understand about caring for fellow people, even ones we haven't met.
Too bad you and your kind don't care as much about fellow Americans who were raped and murdered by the people you're so concerned about.
 

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Too bad you and your kind don't care as much about fellow Americans who were raped and murdered by the people you're so concerned about.
Well, by that logic you and your kind don’t care about the young girls who were raped and murdered by the Epstein pedophile ring.

This is actually believable though, considering what goes on at these MAGA churches.
 

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Well, by that logic you and your kind don’t care about the young girls who were raped and murdered by the Epstein pedophile ring.

This is actually believable though, considering what goes on at these MAGA churches.
Read more carefully. I and most of the others here have often called for ALL the Epstein files to be released and for anyone guilty to be punished to the max. Now, back to you guys wringing your hands over illegals and the people interfering with their arrest, and not a speck of sympathy for their victims, nor the women and children brought here by them for sex trafficking. Show some compassion for them. Show you care. Show you care about them as human beings more than you care about just opposing Trump.
 

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Read more carefully. I and most of the others here have often called for ALL the Epstein files to be released and for anyone guilty to be punished to the max. Now, back to you guys wringing your hands over illegals and the people interfering with their arrest, and not a speck of sympathy for their victims, nor the women and children brought here by them for sex trafficking. Show some compassion for them. Show you care. Show you care about them as human beings more than you care about just opposing Trump.
Wanting accountability for federal agents killing people, wanting the protection of rights and due process, wanting states to be protected from federal agents raiding their cities and neighborhoods as an act of political retribution, WANTING VIOLENT CRIMINALS TO BE PRIORITIZED for deportation over those with long standing ties to communities and do not have a criminal history, does not equate to being unsympathetic or not having compassion for victims.

If you think it does, I think you’re incapable of holding two thoughts in your head at the same time.
 

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Wanting accountability for federal agents killing people, wanting the protection of rights and due process, wanting states to be protected from federal agents raiding their cities and neighborhoods as an act of political retribution, WANTING VIOLENT CRIMINALS TO BE PRIORITIZED for deportation over those with long standing ties to communities and do not have a criminal history, does not equate to being unsympathetic or not having compassion for victims.

If you think it does, I think you’re incapable of holding two thoughts in your head at the same time.
Can we also get accountability for anyone assaulting or even impeding law enforcement?
 

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Can we also get accountability for anyone assaulting or even impeding law enforcement?
Is getting killed not enough for you?
Read more carefully. I and most of the others here have often called for ALL the Epstein files to be released and for anyone guilty to be punished to the max. Now, back to you guys wringing your hands over illegals and the people interfering with their arrest, and not a speck of sympathy for their victims, nor the women and children brought here by them for sex trafficking. Show some compassion for them. Show you care. Show you care about them as human beings more than you care about just opposing Trump.
Also, I’ll proudly and happily oppose anything and everything Epstein’s bff does.

Not doing so is showing a lack of sympathy and compassion to the 28 women who have accused that vile egomaniac of sexual misconduct, and the young girls we yet to know about because as he’s actively protecting pedophiles.
 

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Wanting accountability for federal agents killing people, wanting the protection of rights and due process, wanting states to be protected from federal agents raiding their cities and neighborhoods as an act of political retribution, WANTING VIOLENT CRIMINALS TO BE PRIORITIZED for deportation over those with long standing ties to communities and do not have a criminal history, does not equate to being unsympathetic or not having compassion for victims.

If you think it does, I think you’re incapable of holding two thoughts in your head at the same time.
You show zero compassion for the victims of illegal aliens
 

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Is getting killed not enough for you?
I wasn’t disagreeing with you. You talk a big game and I don’t hate your post. I’m confused why those pelting federal agents with snow and ice and assaulting officers aren’t seen as an issue. Can you you enlighten me?
 

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I wasn’t disagreeing with you. You talk a big game and I don’t hate your post. I’m confused why those pelting federal agents with snow and ice and assaulting officers aren’t seen as an issue. Can you you enlighten me?
Like it or not, people have a right to observe and record law enforcement. They can also use their freedom of speech in the public sphere.

When they cross the line, they’re arrested and get their due process. Thus, accountability.

I’ll also point out again, as far as I can tell, these people are upset at the large sweeping raids targeting nonviolent and longtime members of their communities. If the aim were to prioritize those with a criminal background, you know the worst of the worse, I think we wouldn’t be seeing what you’re describing.

Makes me wonder, why the shitty policy? To antagonize these communities and get the desired response??
 
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Like it or not, people have a right to observe, record, and use their freedom of speech.

When they cross the line, they’re arrested and get their due process. Thus, accountability.
Sure. Even in the recent shooting you can see ICE being pelted non stop. It’s not the only video where we just glance over vehicles or people being pelted with objects. Officers often walk off bloody with no recourse.
 

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Sure. Even in the recent shooting you can see ICE being pelted non stop. It’s not the only video where we just glance over vehicles or people being pelted with objects. Officers often walk off bloody with no recourse.
Truthfully, this is not something I have saw.
 

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Her last words were “I’m not mad at you.” His last action was to lower his phone to offer assistance to a woman that was thrown forcefully to the ground. He wasn’t resisting arrest. You are FoS.
You actually watched that and thought she was sincere? Like me saying "Gee, you are excellent at accurately portraying Renee Good's intent."

Prior to this she was purposefully blocking the road and blaring her horn while her wife antagonized the police. The videos are all over the web. You don't have to be a Sherlock Holmes sleuth to understand what was going on. This is what I meant by bad faith.

Are you really under the impression that she was dropping her kid off and just happened to stumble across the ICE officers on on the way to pilates?
It is possible to make your point without mischaracterizing reality.
 

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How can people not see what is going on?

-The agenda is to use paid hardcore socialist protesters to push ICE to the brink. Do Throw everything at them.

Then when ICE snaps, all the lefty normies like those on the board empathize with the protesters.

-Then the paid protesters organize massive protests where they destroy stores and tear down property with thousands of normies on the fringe.

-when the police try to stop the crowd, the protesters fight back harder and claim they are justified.

-next thing you know we have another BLM unrest.

-Fingers crossed by the socialists that it spirals into an all out revolution.
 

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How can people not see what is going on?

-The agenda is to use paid hardcore socialist protesters to push ICE to the brink. Do Throw everything at them.

Then when ICE snaps, all the lefty normies like those on the board empathize with the protesters.

-Then the paid protesters organize massive protests where they destroy stores and tear down property with thousands of normies on the fringe.

-when the police try to stop the crowd, the protesters fight back harder and claim they are justified.

-next thing you know we have another BLM unrest.

-Fingers crossed by the socialists that it spirals into an all out revolution.
Totally.
 

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How can people not see what is going on?

-The agenda is to use paid hardcore socialist protesters to push ICE to the brink. Do Throw everything at them.

Then when ICE snaps, all the lefty normies like those on the board empathize with the protesters.

-Then the paid protesters organize massive protests where they destroy stores and tear down property with thousands of normies on the fringe.

-when the police try to stop the crowd, the protesters fight back harder and claim they are justified.

-next thing you know we have another BLM unrest.

-Fingers crossed by the socialists that it spirals into an all out revolution.
I'm still waiting for my George Soros payment. Should have known he was at the bottom of all of this.
 

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So surprised to hear that Field Marshal Bovina got demoted. Ive been led to believe that his brown shirts have acted professionally and did nothing wrong. 🤔
 

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My parents both voted for Trump. Their small town has a tomato picking / canning facility with illegal migrants who have been there for decades. These families go to their parish. My parents know them and raised us with their kids. My 2A Trump voting MAGA hat wearing dad is opening their house to those in need now at this time.

Anne Frank did not have the option of getting paid to leave. Self deportation is the moral decision. Enabling an undocumented underclass so you can have cheap veggies is exploitive and wrong.

See I can play moral games too. There have been decades to pass extensive work visa legislation to protect the people you talk about.

God and Government are not the same thing - morality does not equal legality. If you don't like the laws - lobby to have them changed. Yet for forty years since the last amnesty we haven't done shit to clean up illegal immigration including pathways for legal residence for the exploited tomato pickers. Both sides exploit the shitshow economically and politically. Hate on the forty years of feckless politicians.
 

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How can people not see what is going on?

-The agenda is to use paid hardcore socialist protesters to push ICE to the brink. Do Throw everything at them.

Then when ICE snaps, all the lefty normies like those on the board empathize with the protesters.
You are 100% correct.

This is not legal observing. This is not protesting. This is not demonstrating. They are organized and trained and trying to get hurt. The "totally" folks on the board refuse to acknowledge the reality of what is happening in MSP.

 

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I would guess the majority or probably all of the people on this board don’t really care about the deaths but it’s political ammo to work with.
This was a discussion I had in MSP last week. It's an interesting point.Talking about how many people have been burned and brutally killed by illegals and it's a shoulder shrug and the lady in the SUV was a heroic martyr. This was before the other guy. It's weird because some of the deaths hit hard and others don't. I know a lot of people who were truly shook by the Charlie Kirk one because of how graphic it was. How innocent he was in the moment and the hate of the shooter.

The one that hit my head harder than any other that I didn't experience in person was Iryna Zarutska. That one wouldn't leave my head for a long time and is even hard just thinking about it now. Every dynamic of the story from how innocent she was, how brutal he was, how pathetic the bystanders were, my genuine anger at the politicians who enabled it, her story from how she got here, that look she gave him in horror after it happened and just the whole scene. Honestly, that is probably the worst one I've ever seen. Just a disgraceful moment for our country.

It's weird because I mean in honesty, I laughed at a Russian guy getting blown up on X this morning and that is also a death. The North Korean sledding in a land mine is pure comedy. But yeah, it's harder to take some views seriously (LifeLong) when they shrug at the deaths of innocent people in the US that were entirely preventable because of ridiculous crime and immigration policies but want us to freak out with them when people who took a lot of risks in these situations happened to die.
 
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