Immigration

[Bishop2b5]

There’s nothing to debate on this topic. Watch the video. The guy that shoots him is looking directly at the one that removes the gun from his holster. He shoots him as soon as the other officer moves away.

This is the same thing you said about the Good incident, then turned out to be completely mistaken... and still kept denying what we all saw on multiple videos. You have no credibility in your analysis of anything. You don't think or reason or analyze. You parrot a narrative no matter how irrational and false. Now, wait for all the evidence to come out and we'll learn what actually happened. If they wrongfully shot him, I'll gladly admit it and condemn them. If not, we'll agree he did something stupid and got himself shot.

 

[Bantry19]

There’s no reasoning with people who refuse to see reason.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Wtf does Hamas have anything to do with this? Congratulations on resorting to throwing out random and meaningless labels because you can’t actually come up with an intelligent thought in your head. Way to go sport.

He was just strawmanning me

 

[GATTACA!]

This is the same thing you said about the Good incident, then turned out to be completely mistaken... and still kept denying what we all saw on multiple videos. You have no credibility in your analysis of anything. You don't think or reason or analyze. You parrot a narrative no matter how irrational and false. Now, wait for all the evidence to come out and we'll learn what actually happened. If they wrongfully shot him, I'll gladly admit it and condemn them. If not, we'll agree he did something stupid and got himself shot.

No it’s not. I said I don’t think Good hit the officer but my point was that whether or not you think she grazed him she certainly didn’t “viciously run him over” as Trump and Noem claimed. Something you continue to ignore despite finding time to reply to every other one of my comments.

 

[GATTACA!]

Right and I pointed out that Rittenhouse is an amazing example because the Left analyzed it with about .1% accuracy in the days, weeks, and months after the event. Had one of the left-wing pedos or wife beaters there taken him down it would have raised a Darwin question for him and the parents. Instead, it was three low-life’s who earned their fate. I don’t think the in-depth play by play is going to matter in Minneapolis. This guy put himself in a bad situation and the officers are dealing with chaos and reacted to a perceived threat. I think the threshold to justify that threat will be easily met in this situation from what I am seeing, but we shall see. My confidence in the justice system diminishes more day by day, so you never know.

To be clear, I’m 100% confident the woman in the car got what she had coming and that agent is legally justified. That one is easy.
This second one is a lot murkier, and I still want more footage, but I disagree with the “there’s no debate“ notion.

Ad hominem word salad junk like usual. The “lefts” analysis of Rittenhouse’s guilt or innocence isn’t relevant to my point.

You can’t champion one for bringing a firearm to a protest while saying another had what was coming to them for doing the same.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

I'm really wondering why we are so divided over the last 10 years. But in a really odd cycle of 4 years on 4 years off.

Yet no one can answer that.
I'm not saying it seems planned, but boy does it.

 

[drayer54]

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You can’t champion one for bringing a firearm to a protest while saying another had what was coming to them for doing the same.

And if you read the post- I agree


Added nuance-
Survival odds go up with this one little tactic

 

[drayer54]

There’s no reasoning with people who refuse to see reason.

some of us have said this since you buffoons couldn’t see reason years ago

 

[Fbolt]

Wtf does Hamas have anything to do with this? Congratulations on resorting to throwing out random and meaningless labels because you can’t actually come up with an intelligent thought in your head. Way to go sport.

I did not quote the post. Appreciate you jumping to conclusions.

 

[Bishop2b5]

No it’s not. I said I don’t think Good hit the officer but my point was that whether or not you think she grazed him she certainly didn’t “viciously run him over” as Trump and Noem claimed. Something you continue to ignore despite finding time to reply to every other one of my comments.

I don't care what Trump or Noem said about it. I never read either of their comments. They're irrelevant as to what actually happened or my opinion of it. They're engaged in PR and political theater at times. I care about the facts, what actually happened. My point is that you have a long history in IE, whether it's election analysis, political analysis, judging events like what has happened in Minneapolis, or anything else, of being bloody awful and consistently wrong. No matter how often you're wrong or how badly or how much we point it out over & over, you never seem to realize, "Oh, I'm wrong 99% of the time. I wonder why? Maybe I should THINK, and ANALYZE, and base my opinions on EVIDENCE, and be rational instead of parroting the talking point de jure and just standing with the rest of the crowd and shouting, "The emperor's clothes are BEAUTIFUL!"

 

[Fbolt]

He was just strawmanning me

Hey FIL-where's your experience? Don't try and flame if you're not going to participate—keyboard REMF ass warrior at work.

 

[TorontoGold]

I did not quote the post. Appreciate you jumping to conclusions.

who are the Hamas supporters? Seems like quite the accusation for the resident “fence sitter”

 

[Fbolt]

Welcome Mr. Frog

 

[Bantry19]

some of us have said this since you buffoons couldn’t see reason years ago

Buddy, your argument seems to be, as far as I can tell, that because immigrants committed crimes, federal law enforcement can kill people in the streets?

Or, that because something happened at protests in the past, federal law enforcement can kill people in the streets?

Do I have this right?

 

[drayer54]

Buddy, your argument seems to be, as far as I can tell, that because immigrants committed crimes, federal law enforcement can kill people in the streets?

Or, that because something happened at protests in the past, federal law enforcement can kill people in the streets?

Do I have this right?

You clearly have read zero words I have posted and made zero attempt to understand ideas different than your own. This may explain your frustration at the reason of others.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Hey FIL-where's your experience? Don't try and flame if you're not going to participate—keyboard REMF ass warrior at work.

My resume belongs to Christ and I'll be praying for you and everyone for peace

 

[GATTACA!]

I don't care what Trump or Noem said about it. I never read either of their comments. They're irrelevant as to what actually happened or my opinion of it. They're engaged in PR and political theater at times. I care about the facts, what actually happened. My point is that you have a long history in IE, whether it's election analysis, political analysis, judging events like what has happened in Minneapolis, or anything else, of being bloody awful and consistently wrong. No matter how often you're wrong or how badly or how much we point it out over & over, you never seem to realize, "Oh, I'm wrong 99% of the time. I wonder why? Maybe I should THINK, and ANALYZE, and base my opinions on EVIDENCE, and be rational instead of parroting the talking point de jure and just standing with the rest of the crowd and shouting, "The emperor's clothes are BEAUTIFUL!"

You don’t care about the president blatantly lying about his goons gunning down an American citizen. That says it all lol.

 

[Bishop2b5]

You don’t care about the president blatantly lying about his goons gunning down an American citizen. That says it all lol.

That you see it that way is the problem. You can't analyze anything accurately. You've never been able to, at least here on IE. You don't think. You mindlessly parrot a narrative, and no amount of reason or evidence moves you off it.

As for Trump, I don't care what he said. I don't pay much attention to what he says. I think for myself. I look at facts & evidence and think and decide. Try it.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

That you see it that way is the problem. You can't analyze anything accurately. You've never been able to, at least here on IE. You don't think. You mindlessly parrot a narrative, and no amount of reason or evidence moves you off it.

As for Trump, I don't care what he said. I don't pay much attention to what he says. I think for myself. I look at facts & evidence and think and decide. Try it.

I look towards Christ, His teachings, His actions and his soft and firm heart posture. I try not to be like Him. I try to be his servant.

 

[drayer54]

You don’t care about the president blatantly lying about his goons gunning down an American citizen. That says it all lol.

“Gunning down”

His goons aka federal law enforcement are going after these people below while you and yours do everything to stop them, including an organized and funded network with training manuals and political connections. That says it all lol

 

[drayer54]

I look towards Christ, His teachings, His actions and his soft and firm heart posture. I try not to be like Him. I try to be his servant.

That’s odd. Because it looks like you ignore reason and parrot MSNBC.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

That’s odd. Because it looks like you ignore reason and parrot MSNBC.

That is how you perceive me. In fact I'm a typically Republican voting conservative who is is prolife, believes in two genders, no men in women's sports, 2A and treating all humans with respect and justice - even sinners I try to forgive while still asking for justice

The answers are not found on MSNBC or Fox News. Only one book has the answers. And only he will reveal them.

 

[Bantry19]

“Gunning down”

His goons aka federal law enforcement are going after these people below while you and yours do everything to stop them, including an organized and funded network with training manuals and political connections. That says it all lol

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So…because a Somalian immigrant committed a crime, federal law enforcement can kill people in the streets. You think I’m not understanding your argument?

 

[drayer54]

Again, Democrats want this chaos. They wanted it in 2020 and want it again. Because they wanted to distract from Trump. It’s a glorified insurrection.

 

[drayer54]

So…because a Somalian immigrant committed a crime, federal law enforcement can kill people in the streets. You think I’m not understanding your argument?

No-
Let’s keep it simple

Law of the lands established on immigration long before trump

Biden opens border

Millions cross border

People realize that is bad. Trump elected (duly elected President)

Trump closes border

Trump enforces law (long established law of the land)

Democrats don’t like law- protest- oppose law enforcement

Select individuals push themselves into dangerous situations provoking federal agents and get shot

Nobody gets gunned down, except for the several Americans who have been gunned down by the illegals Biden admitted and Dems snoozed on.

See? This gestapo framing is fiction

 

[Sea Turtle]

I do think that there should be more training. 40 days is a good base but not enough. 90 days with tiered levels of graduation would be ideal.

This would produce far better results and weed out the ones who just dont have what it takes.

Also, not every agent needs a firearm. The lead agent of each group should have one.

 

[drayer54]

Democrats and Republicans in power are the same. You can't lean on Biden as the cause. Not anymore. That's a washed concept when the establishment is united on one front, and that's greed and political expenditure.

Wake the fuck up.

Bullshit.

Biden opens the border and although Election Day fixed the economy and border in one shot, the millions of criminals he let in are still here and he left a mess that needs cleaned up. He took a huge crap on the floor and it’s not pretty to pick up.

 

[GATTACA!]

That you see it that way is the problem. You can't analyze anything accurately. You've never been able to, at least here on IE. You don't think. You mindlessly parrot a narrative, and no amount of reason or evidence moves you off it.

As for Trump, I don't care what he said. I don't pay much attention to what he says. I think for myself. I look at facts & evidence and think and decide. Try it.

That you don’t have any standards for the president because of the political party he represents is a problem. You guys hung on every stupid thing Biden said and did. Trump tells malicious lies and suddenly you all have Mike Johnson’s selective amnesia.

 

[TorontoGold]

That you don’t have any standards for the president because of the political party he represents is a problem. You guys hung on every stupid thing Biden said and did. Trump tells malicious lies and suddenly you all have Mike Johnson’s selective amnesia.

Bishy having standards for anything in his life would make his existence a paradox. Only person on IE that can't defend himself LOL. Sad sad sad round little person.

 

[NDWarrior]

Block out the noise. Get out of the weeds. See what's really going on here.

Unleashing thugs on cities has a purpose. It's extortion plain and simple. Bimbo Blondi says: "comply, or we continue to deny" your civil liberties.

Pretty clear to see what the real purpose is here.

Wake tfu.