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Settle down there tough guy. We are having a civilized debate. I disagree with you. Our OL is by far the weakest talent positional group on the team, and it’s not particularly close. That doesn’t mean I don’t think it’s good. It’s just not nearly at the level of any other positional group yet. If we want to win championships, it needs to be. Do you not remember this year consistently being unable to pickup 1st downs on 3rd and 2 or 3rd and 1? With the likes of Love and Price, the top 2 RBs in college? And that was WITH Craig and Schrauth (and Wagner), who are 100 times better than Absher and Otting? And that wasn’t even against top teams. But sure, our OL is stellar.

I want to win championships, and to do so, you need every positional group to be playing at a top level. I personally do not think the current OL is at that level needed…yet.

Texas has also struggled for years on third and short runs and they recruit OL better than almost anyone in the country. I think using one aspect of OL play and cherry picking that as proof the OL is now the least talented position group on the team by far is silly. Also heavily impacted by play calling, TE play, QB mobility etc.
 

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Settle down there tough guy. We are having a civilized debate. I disagree with you. Our OL is by far the weakest talent positional group on the team, and it’s not particularly close. That doesn’t mean I don’t think it’s good. It’s just not nearly at the level of any other positional group yet. If we want to win championships, it needs to be. Do you not remember this year consistently being unable to pickup 1st downs on 3rd and 2 or 3rd and 1? With the likes of Love and Price, the top 2 RBs in college? And that was WITH Craig and Schrauth (and Wagner), who are 100 times better than Absher and Otting? And that wasn’t even against top teams. But sure, our OL is stellar.

I want to win championships, and to do so, you need every positional group to be playing at a top level. I personally do not think the current OL is at that level needed…yet.
"Our OL is by far the weakest positional group on the team, and its not particularly close"

This is a hell of a statement, considering our DT room, even after the portal additions.
 

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And comparing anything to our DB room seems unreasonable. It might be the best position group in the country, especially since Hartline left and OSU's WR room got raided.
 

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Settle down there tough guy. We are having a civilized debate. I disagree with you. Our OL is by far the weakest talent positional group on the team, and it’s not particularly close. That doesn’t mean I don’t think it’s good. It’s just not nearly at the level of any other positional group yet. If we want to win championships, it needs to be. Do you not remember this year consistently being unable to pickup 1st downs on 3rd and 2 or 3rd and 1? With the likes of Love and Price, the top 2 RBs in college? And that was WITH Craig and Schrauth (and Wagner), who are 100 times better than Absher and Otting? And that wasn’t even against top teams. But sure, our OL is stellar.

I want to win championships, and to do so, you need every positional group to be playing at a top level. I personally do not think the current OL is at that level needed…yet.
What wasn't civilized in my reply? I think you are wrong and we have loads of talent. It needs to mature, it needs to galvanize but all of the talent needed to win a title is in the room.

I hate ranking positions against each other because it's not a fair assessment and it's of little value. I'd rather grade every position group based on talent and production. We'd need someone to run the numbers on all of the playoff teams in the last 3 years to see how we stack up in terms of Age, Snaps played, etc.

Every ranking is a snapshot in time. We might end spring/summer/fall and feel wildly different about any of these positions.

Secondary:
Talent - A, Production - A
LB:
Talent - A/B+, Production - B+
DE:
Talent - A, Production - B
DT:
Talent - B/B+ (could be argued A-), Production - C+/B- (dependent on Onye's waiver)
QB:
Talent - A, Production - A-/B+ (this doesn't account for the drastic dropoff from starter to backup)
WR:
Talent - B+/A-, Production - B- (Faison/Greathouse anchor an otherwise very talented and unproven WR group)
TE:
Talent - A (even moreso once Premer gets here), Production - C- (players in the room have played snaps but no one has been 'the guy')
RB:
Talent - A-/B+, Production - C (Aneyas has played a big role at times. Lots of unproven talent)
OL:
Talent - A/A-, Production - C+

Knapp, Otting, Craig and Lambert all return. Craig is coming back from a second injury. All have played playoff-level except maybe Otting but I'm not fit to judge that. Jagusah will be returning from injury for the 2nd straight year but we all believe in what we saw in limited snaps. We just need him at 100%. That's a lot of snaps played between them.

Absher, at least, sets the floor of OG group. Black and Augustine are both A - rated players and both could be ready to seriously challenge for snaps. What if Black is good enough to take a Tackle position? Or Augustine? What if one of the freshman or another unexpected player has the lightbulb click on? We're not relying on that though.

In totality, we have:
Highest odds to comprise our starting 5/first 7 players:

Knapp, Craig, Lambert, Jagusah, Black, Otting, Augustine, Absher

2nd group:
Terek, Herron, Prescod, Jones and Strebig

3rd group:
Nichols, McKeogh, Merrill, Patrick, Thom and Garvin

So we have 8 players who start in pole position and we have 11 wild cards who all have a smaller chance to emerge. Given what we have elsewhere on this team, I guess there's nothing else to bitch about so we gotta find something that looks like a "weakness".
 

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That is a pretty crazy statement on the o line they were down 3 guys for almost half the year. You talk about short yardage which just shows you don't know a lot about football. So much of our red zone issues were play calling.
 

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Looks at DB. We have Leonard Moore, Adon Shuler, Tae Johnson. Were we content? No, we added McKinney and Sanders, plus still have Gray and Talich, plus have lots of young talent that can grow and develop. That is an elite, elite, championship caliber unit.

Not to pile on, but OL and QB are just different than other spots. Do you need depth in case of injury? Of course. But if all goes well, your 5 starting OL take all 60 snaps in a given game. Your QB takes every snap. At every other position that is not the case. McKinney could end up at Nickel. If not, they could have promised him let’s say 40 of the 120 CB snaps in a game. You cannot compare adding depth at the OL to adding depth at DB.
 

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That is a pretty crazy statement on the o line they were down 3 guys for almost half the year. You talk about short yardage which just shows you don't know a lot about football. So much of our red zone issues were play calling.
I don't know that I agree with this. Did play calling have a part in it? Sure, but so many short yardage situations where the OL was just not opening up any holes or getting any push.
 

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Settle down there tough guy. We are having a civilized debate. I disagree with you. Our OL is by far the weakest talent positional group on the team, and it’s not particularly close. That doesn’t mean I don’t think it’s good. It’s just not nearly at the level of any other positional group yet. If we want to win championships, it needs to be. Do you not remember this year consistently being unable to pickup 1st downs on 3rd and 2 or 3rd and 1? With the likes of Love and Price, the top 2 RBs in college? And that was WITH Craig and Schrauth (and Wagner), who are 100 times better than Absher and Otting? And that wasn’t even against top teams. But sure, our OL is stellar.

I want to win championships, and to do so, you need every positional group to be playing at a top level. I personally do not think the current OL is at that level needed…yet.
Schrauth is the one dude where I realllllllly wish they had found a way to entice him to come back. I would much rather our only fall camp discussion be Lambert vs Black at RT than possibly musical chairs with 4 out of 5 guys.
 

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Not to pile on, but OL and QB are just different than other spots. Do you need depth in case of injury? Of course. But if all goes well, your 5 starting OL take all 60 snaps in a given game. Your QB takes every snap. At every other position that is not the case. McKinney could end up at Nickel. If not, they could have promised him let’s say 40 of the 120 CB snaps in a game. You cannot compare adding depth at the OL to adding depth at DB.
100% spot on. I can only give this one thumbs up. I'd give it two if the site functionality allowed it.
 

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The bed wetting industrial complex cant be stopped
Sheets don't sell themselves, you know.

We've got 18 offensive linemen on the roster, several returning starters, and an excellent OL coach. I'm sure we can figure five guys to roll out there against Wisconsin, and hopefully they have a little more time to gel before facing a real test than they did this season.
 

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"Our OL is by far the weakest positional group on the team, and its not particularly close"

This is a hell of a statement, considering our DT room, even after the portal additions.
And TE. TE is definitely in the running for one of the weaker units.
Everyone is either coming off injury or is inexperienced.
Offer (hopefully) does not apply to any named Premer.
 

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Portal hand wringing goes to OL hand wringing before Tionne Gray can even unpack his bags.

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If OLine is one of our biggest question marks or weakest units however you want to phrase it then that is a great place to be considering everything and how much talent is in that unit. To me it speaks to how loaded other units are or how much other units have come over the last few years,…
 

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If OLine is one of our biggest question marks or weakest units however you want to phrase it then that is a great place to be considering everything and how much talent is in that unit. To me it speaks to how loaded other units are or how much other units have come over the last few years,…
I dont know how anybody could say OL is weaker/less proven than DL and RB at this point.
 

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You want to know what the coaches think? Look at how they prioritized the position in the portal. There were only two positions on the team where there wasn't even a sniff of going after anybody in the portal. OL and Safety.
 

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What a difference a week can make. This coaching staff always has a plan in recruiting and executes.
 

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One thing that really shows the health of the program is that out of the 14 players that entered the portal, all but two are going to power 4 schools in hopes of PT. Only one of which would have likely had meaningful snaps at ND
 

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Singer posted an article on which portal additions are participating in spring football. I would assume all but Porter? Anyone have access?
 

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Singer posted an article on which portal additions are participating in spring football. I would assume all but Porter? Anyone have access?

There's no verdict on Porter yet. He had a minor surgery and may be out.

The only definite player that will not practice is DJ McKinney. He's finishing up his degree at CU. He's living in South Bend right now and will workout with the team, but can't practice - think Beaux Collins in '24.
 

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Maybe you can explain how you'd do it since you seem to be putting some posters on blast.
Leave him at LT. I don’t understand what’s so complicated, either the coaches know what they’re doing or they don’t. I’m not going to go back and list everyone who DCE’d Knapp to the bench, the portal, guard, or even center. But it happens all the time. It’s not like everyone here thinks the coaches are idiots. Why are they idiots re Knapp?
 
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