Marcus Freeman named Dick Corbett Head Football Coach

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Both of my brother in laws wrestled in college and coached for a time. It's brutal. I wouldn't even call a lot of what you see toxic masculinity because, as mentioned, some of the moms are the worst offenders. It's just ignorance.
My son was a pretty high level wrestler down here in South Carolina. Can confirm wrestling moms are by and large, insane. SOME of the dads are too.

That said, his 5 years wrestling were some of the best memories of my life. Its a great sport for the kids IF you get the right coaches. And he had GREAT coaches.
 
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I've heard that wrestling parents are the worst of all kids sports, and that's saying something.
Wrestling parent for 5 years. Wrestling moms are brutal. Dads SOMETIMES are. But overall, nowhere near as bad as baseball.
 

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I've heard that wrestling parents are the worst of all kids sports, and that's saying something.

I would guess it's hockey.

Hockey is the only sport where an eye watering financial investment is *required* for your kid to meaningfully participate at all at any level.

I think the financial burden and constant weekend travel (~6 months???) wears down on otherwise rational people's brains.
 

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I'm a product of a (now) top 5 national wrestling program from Jersey. Can confirm wrestling parents are an entirely different breed. The insane moms vs insane dads is pretty evenly spread out though in my experience
 

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I'm a product of a (now) top 5 national wrestling program from Jersey. Can confirm wrestling parents are an entirely different breed. The insane moms vs insane dads is pretty evenly spread out though in my experience
Soccer parents (especially ones who never played the sport) are a breed unto themselves...so many stories...
 

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My son was a pretty high level wrestler down here in South Carolina. Can confirm wrestling moms are by and large, insane. SOME of the dads are too.

That said, his 5 years wrestling were some of the best memories of my life. Its a great sport for the kids IF you get the right coaches. And he had GREAT coaches.

And that's South Carolina...not exactly a hotbed of wrestling. Wrestling is slowly dying up here, but the wrestling moms, particularly in rural areas where the town's self esteem is wrapped up in high school sports, is disturbing.
 

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Sorry but nothing compares to the "never made state" dad trying to make up for what he couldn't do or the "don't hurt my baby" mom at wrestling meets/tournaments.
Worse than the never made state dad is the "lost in the finals" dad.
 

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And that's South Carolina...not exactly a hotbed of wrestling. Wrestling is slowly dying up here, but the wrestling moms, particularly in rural areas where the town's self esteem is wrapped up in high school sports, is disturbing.
Don't know what's going on in ND but to your west, it's also dying. I hear a combination of kids doing MMA and girls wrestling are killing it. Lots of parents and wrestlers (male) at the JH/HS level complain that it was enough of a slog when they had to board buses for many tournaments at 5:45AM, go sit in a gym until 6-7PM and wrestle five or six matches, two/three hour slog home and it's 10PM before you walk in the door. Now with the girls they have to leave an hour earlier and meets are wrapping at 9PM. I could add more but given the surprising sensitivity of many football fans, I'll leave it at that.
 

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I would guess it's hockey.

Hockey is the only sport where an eye watering financial investment is *required* for your kid to meaningfully participate at all at any level.

I think the financial burden and constant weekend travel (~6 months???) wears down on otherwise rational people's brains.
My kids have played youth hockey in Massachusetts for a decade. Mostly it’s fine.

Maybe that’s b/c we just play town, not club, and every town has a program so it’s all fairly low-key. But an underrated quality of hockey is that there’s a big sheet of hard plastic between the parents and the players/referees. Yes the people on the ice can hear you but it does serve as a bit of a shield/deterrent against the worst behavior.
 

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I would guess it's hockey.

Hockey is the only sport where an eye watering financial investment is *required* for your kid to meaningfully participate at all at any level.

I think the financial burden and constant weekend travel (~6 months???) wears down on otherwise rational people's brains.

Hockey parents, and it's not even close. All due respect to those that wrestle but you're not dolling out nearly the same coin that it takes to put your kid on the ice.

The financial dynamics are an entire aspect of the hockey culture, you have new rich who try to buy spots on the team vs old rich who have the expectation that their name and community status get them in all the best rinks vs the poors who've put everything they got into little Tommy's hockey career and damn it if he's not going to the NHL because otherwise it would mean they wasted all that money that could have fixed up their 1998 civic.

All that mixed with a physical sport played at 7AM in a freezing cold rink and you have - absolute cinema.
 

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And that's South Carolina...not exactly a hotbed of wrestling. Wrestling is slowly dying up here, but the wrestling moms, particularly in rural areas where the town's self esteem is wrapped up in high school sports, is disturbing.
Exactly. Our top kids go to some big programs, but generally get clobbered once they get there. There is one kid who won 4 state titles at 4 different weight classes in high school. Lost maybe 6 matches his entire career. Goes to NC State and is getting annihilated as a freshman.
 

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Hockey parents, and it's not even close. All due respect to those that wrestle but you're not dolling out nearly the same coin that it takes to put your kid on the ice.

The financial dynamics are an entire aspect of the hockey culture, you have new rich who try to buy spots on the team vs old rich who have the expectation that their name and community status get them in all the best rinks vs the poors who've put everything they got into little Tommy's hockey career and damn it if he's not going to the NHL because otherwise it would mean they wasted all that money that could have fixed up their 1998 civic.

All that mixed with a physical sport played at 7AM in a freezing cold rink and you have - absolute cinema.

Yep. It's fascinating to hear the stories people have. Anyone with good stories, my DM's are open.
 

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Hockey parents, and it's not even close. All due respect to those that wrestle but you're not dolling out nearly the same coin that it takes to put your kid on the ice.

The financial dynamics are an entire aspect of the hockey culture, you have new rich who try to buy spots on the team vs old rich who have the expectation that their name and community status get them in all the best rinks vs the poors who've put everything they got into little Tommy's hockey career and damn it if he's not going to the NHL because otherwise it would mean they wasted all that money that could have fixed up their 1998 civic.

All that mixed with a physical sport played at 7AM in a freezing cold rink and you have - absolute cinema.
Wrestling is one of the cheapest sports. I paid $50/month for club practice. 4 days a week, 2 hours a day, year round. Singlet: $60, Shoes: $100, Headgear $30. That's it. Tournament fees were $50.
 

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Exactly. Our top kids go to some big programs, but generally get clobbered once they get there. There is one kid who won 4 state titles at 4 different weight classes in high school. Lost maybe 6 matches his entire career. Goes to NC State and is getting annihilated as a freshman.

Most of our best kids struggle at D1. A few have worked out. We have *some* wrestling culture here but none of the numbers necessary for high school season success to be a good predictor. Meanwhile, our only D1 school (NDSU) has a bunch of out of state guys who maybe won 1 or 2 state championships at best.
 

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Has anyone seen Freeman? Need someone on campus to snap a pic.
 

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Wrestling is one of the cheapest sports. I paid $50/month for club practice. 4 days a week, 2 hours a day, year round. Singlet: $60, Shoes: $100, Headgear $30. That's it. Tournament fees were $50.
Basically same deal here - except no one did year round. Some of the psychos with D1 dreams did some of the summer stuff I guess since Junior Nationals are in Fargo.
 
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