2025 College Football Playoffs

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I won’t care if they are in or not in short time , but the worst thing is after they “blackmailed” the Baylor AD out of the director chair, the last few weeks feel like a huge inside practical joke at ND’s expense, for ratings - that’s pretty sick. ND should’ve been just been put out 4 weeks ago.

Now they’ll use this to destroy the group of 5’s chances and be the fall guy (group). This has already started.

It’s closer to CNN/WWE/Fox news than college football. And the Saudi’s aren’t even here yet to bail out Rutgers, Maryland, etc.
 

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What I can’t understand is why the general fan hates that ND isn’t in a conference. The big 10 is taking private equity money and the SEC is full of their bullshit. The conferences have become corporations. Why wouldn’t fans respect and want more independence?
It's because they can't do it.

How many brands could actually successfully do it other than us?

5? Maybe

If it was that easy and as beneficial as they make it sound like they'd all do it.

It's just jealousy.
 

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McMurphy's bowl exec contacts are having some feelings and he's doing everything he can to help em.
It's pretty clear from the events of today and the past week that this is a corrupt process driven by money, threats, media campaigning, etc. ND has to show it can push back, too. They feared leaving out Bama and Miami more than us, for whatever reason. Again, the ranking isn't about finding the best teams. It's about financially satisfying different stakeholders.
 

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Look how giddy the ENTIRE ESPN crew is. Masks completely off for their hatred of ND. This is completely insane.

(Original poster is obviously an ND hater as heads up)



If I hear one more "because you don't have a CCG" comment... They mean nothing in the CFP committee selection process (as illustrated this afternoon). Instead they provide a Union of sorts to protect the member teams interests (TV rights $ being one of the most important things) and having a guaranteed slate of intra-conference games that help build your CFP resume (but when I look at Ole Miss, OK, and TAMU, seems kind of debatable). ND is not getting punished for lack of a CCG (and those are surely going away anyway); we're getting punished because we don't have enough meaningful P4 matchups that help us build our resume and so have much less room for error; also, the other P4 teams will only play us as OOC games in late August or September, so we really are left with little room for error when we are required to be on our game and at our best weeks 1-4, an uneasy task, even for ND when it has new starters (esp. QB) and new coaching staff.
 

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What I can’t understand is why the general fan hates that ND isn’t in a conference. The big 10 is taking private equity money and the SEC is full of their bullshit. The conferences have become corporations. Why wouldn’t fans respect and want more independence?
That's my thing with the r/cfb circlejerk ND hatefest. They'll sit on there and bitch endlessly about how megaconferences are ruining the sport and then get pissed at the one team that's actively standing up to the system. It's like people who complain about how "soulless" everything is and they pine for the days that people have "personality" and then the second someone has a personality they hate it and want them to be like everyone else.
 

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The haters are shit heads anyway.

You tell like 75% of college football media, coaches/players/admins and fandom at the beginning of the year that ND will not be going to a bowl, and they're ready to pop bottles.

Now ND doesn't go to a bowl game, and they're pissed.

They're toddlers. They don't know what they want.
 
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Can someone explain what ND gains by opting out of a bowl game?

I’m assuming we would’ve made a small amount of money by participating. Additionally the team would get more practice time. Fans would get to watch another game.

I’m not sure I see the path to change that people are saying this will ignite. I don’t think ESPN will care tbh.

I think dominating another top-15 team would’ve been a better message.
 

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This is beyond dumb because this was a year ND could (and likely would have) won a natty. It also highlights how stupid the ND admin was to front load the schedule like that. Marcus has to figure out how to have the team ready to win in September just like November. This sucks donkey balls but a lot of the blame falls squarely at ND’s own feet. Also fuck Miami, the ACC the SEC and ESPN.

Ole Jack was always about starting on the road somewhere.
 

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Can someone explain what ND gains by opting out of a bowl game?

I’m assuming we would’ve made a small amount of money by participating. Additionally the team would get more practice time. Fans would get to watch another game.

I’m not sure I see the path to change that people are saying this will ignite. I don’t think ESPN will care tbh.

I think dominating another top-15 team would’ve been a better message.
Message to who?

If pro teams don’t make the playoffs they don’t then go play some exhibition game where players might get injured.

What was college football as it relates to the traditions surrounding bowl games and the reasons for playing them has been dead as a doornail for a couple seasons now.

Making college a de facto pro league by introducing agents, not having to play class, unlimited transfers, NIL, mega conferences and the playoffs (where the SEC gets preferential treatment) killed all that, not ND opting out this year.
 
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Can someone explain what ND gains by opting out of a bowl game?

I’m assuming we would’ve made a small amount of money by participating. Additionally the team would get more practice time. Fans would get to watch another game.

I’m not sure I see the path to change that people are saying this will ignite. I don’t think ESPN will care tbh.

I think dominating another top-15 team would’ve been a better message.
I think it's the feeling that the playoffs/championship were the goal. They felt they had done enough to have a shot to attain that goal, and were led to believe it multiple weeks in a row. Then the rug gets pulled out from under them. I think they are ready to turn the page and essentially just start focusing on next year right away. I know the practices could help that, but when something like this happens, it makes sense to just rip the Bandaid off and officially start the revenge tour 2026 on December 7, 2025.
 

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Can someone explain what ND gains by opting out of a bowl game?

I’m assuming we would’ve made a small amount of money by participating. Additionally the team would get more practice time. Fans would get to watch another game.

I’m not sure I see the path to change that people are saying this will ignite. I don’t think ESPN will care tbh.

I think dominating another top-15 team would’ve been a better message.
How did FSU benefit in 2023? I don't see how we benefit by playing the game. We risk injuries. Etc. We don't need the money. As for sending a message, do you think the committee next year will care about that? We over-performed in the playoffs last year. Did the committee care?
 

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Can someone explain what ND gains by opting out of a bowl game?

I’m assuming we would’ve made a small amount of money by participating. Additionally the team would get more practice time. Fans would get to watch another game.

I’m not sure I see the path to change that people are saying this will ignite. I don’t think ESPN will care tbh.

I think dominating another top-15 team would’ve been a better message.

The only detriment in this case, which is miniscule in the grand scheme of things, is they won’t finish in the top 10.


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Can someone explain what ND gains by opting out of a bowl game?

I’m assuming we would’ve made a small amount of money by participating. Additionally the team would get more practice time. Fans would get to watch another game.

I’m not sure I see the path to change that people are saying this will ignite. I don’t think ESPN will care tbh.

I think dominating another top-15 team would’ve been a better message.
There's no advantage to ND playing or not. The value of those practices in pretty low. The game is lose-lose from an outcome standpoint because you may have half of your starters actually playing. Anyone who has even a minor injury is going to sit. And apparently even if we win big, we will fall in the rankings.

On the other hand, I believe ND playing gives the ACC a split of ND's bowl money. While ND keeps their playoff money, I think they split anything else. So the ACC spends a month actively campaigning against us, and then gets the perverse incentive of both the CFP share AND a share of the ND bowl appearance fee. Hard fucking pass.
 

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The haters are shit heads anyway.

You tell like 75% of college football media, coaches/players/admins and fandom at the beginning of the year that ND will not be going to a bowl, and they're ready to pop bottles.

Now ND doesn't go to a bowl game, and they're pissed.

They're toddlers. They don't know what they want.

ESPN is pissed because Notre Dame shot them in the foot. No one wants to see BYU & Georgia Tech. So now it affects their advertising, the amount of sponsors they have and the amount of money that they’re going to make. ND pretty much gave them the double 🖕🏻.
 

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ESPN is pissed because Notre Dame shot them in the foot. No one wants to see BYU & Georgia Tech. So now it affects their advertising, the amount of sponsors they have and the amount of money that they’re going to make. ND pretty much gave them the double 🖕🏻.
Yeah, I can't wait to practice and play an exhibition game to make money for a league and network that spent the last month trashing our team. No thanks.
 

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Penn State vs. NCAA

All vacated wins returned
Post season ban removed
Etc etc etc.


The NCAA folds like a lawn chair as soon as the lawyers get involved and has for a long time.
Okay, fair enough. I think that case being about non-football related violations makes it different from the competitive advantage extra practices potentially provide, but I wasn't making that distinction. The pedo case was settled, too, not tried. Penn State still had to pay 60 million to get those wins back for Joe Pa.
 

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These kids have no obligation to partake in spectacles that only serve to line the pockets of processed food conglomerates and insurance companies.

It's a year-round job. They have every right to spend a month with loved ones as every other college kid does during the holidays.
 

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These kids have no obligation to partake in spectacles that only serve to line the pockets of processed food conglomerates and insurance companies.

It's a year-round job. They have every right to spend a month with loved ones as every other college kid does during the holidays.
Best post I've seen in a minute.
 

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I know it was one play, but we are one play from potentially being in the CFP. Wonder what Roll Tide Buechner is thinking tonight?

Nothing at all. Fans like to point at one singular moment, players don’t.

That whole play was maddening to us fans (botched snap, can’t make 3 yard throw for 2 after play busted), but not them. Any team with a good coach keeps every play in the WE vein.


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