2025 College Football Playoffs

stlnd01

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From an entertainment/fan perspective, the autobids and current system are shit. Who the hell wants to watch Virginia or North Texas get destroyed by Oregon in the first round? Without autobids, Bama never jumps ND, and if BYU loses, the first round could be: Texas at Oregon, Miami at Ole Miss, Bama at A&M, ND at Oklahoma.

Instead, we’re staring at North Texas @ Oregon and Virginia @ Ole Miss as the best case scenario. At least that version still gives us ND in the playoffs and a couple of watchable games.

But if BYU and Duke win, the first round could be JMU @ Oregon, North Texas @ Ole Miss, and BYU @ A&M - a complete pile of shit that nobody wants to watch.

First round should be the best weekend of college football and instead it could be unwatchable.
Hey that Oklahoma-Bama rematch in the 8v9 slot tho.

FWIW, if they lose to BYU, Texas Tech probably falls back into one of those slots, and I guess A&M or Oregon gets the bye? But same difference. Completely agree.

I'd note last year's first-round games weren't so hot either. At some point I think that's a point in favor of us (and perhaps Miami). They want to create good games between good teams. That is the point I think, moreso than handing out participation trophies.
 

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Someone else posted a tweet, but it's so obvious how different ND people come across in these segments. Sark and Cristobal crying like babies and Marcus, Love, and Price coming across as humble and saying all of the right things. I'm sure Pete looks the same in a few minutes
Can you post a link to Mario crying like a baby? All I’ve seen is him advocating for his team to be in the playoff

Sark I’ve seen whining but I don’t think Mario has
 

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They are especially pointless if there are no real stakes for the loser. You can't just give teams mulligans for CCGs. But also I agree it's not necessarily fair to penalize teams for losing CCGs when a lot of the other teams in the mix aren't playing them to begin with. The only argument for them (and biggest obstacle to doing away with them) is TV money, of course.
So I'll be curious to see what the ratings are for Ohio State-Indiana tomorrow, in particular.
I think they'll be very good. I know some think OSU is going to boat race them, but I don't think so. I don't see IU winning, but I suspect they won't embarrass themselves. If this game comes down to a last minute score with OSU winning, I don't think IU will drop from #2.

UGA needs to win by 14 more more for anything to happen to Bama. 10 won't be enough. Given UGA's offense, I don't see them winning by more than 7, but I'm hoping for 14 or more.
 

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Cristobal on cowherd with the Miami players one handed catch against us paused in the background.

Going about this totally different from Marcus
 

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I still don't think the Boise game is getting factored into the equation enough.

IMO, a Boise win (SOS boost) means we only need 1 of BYU/Bama to lose. Though both still preferred just in case.
 

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I think they'll be very good. I know some think OSU is going to boat race them, but I don't think so. I don't see IU winning, but I suspect they won't embarrass themselves. If this game comes down to a last minute score with OSU winning, I don't think IU will drop from #2.

UGA needs to win by 14 more more for anything to happen to Bama. 10 won't be enough. Given UGA's offense, I don't see them winning by more than 7, but I'm hoping for 14 or more.
I think both teh BIGCG and SECCG will have high ratings. ACC is a really well run conference adn they are playing at the same time as BIGCG so they will get about a dozen viewers.

If BYU wins, I don't think a 14 point loss is enough to keep bama out in favor of ND, unless it's a convincing ass beating that somehow turns into a 14 point loss, i.e, IU scoring two dogshit TDs against ND last year. Even then, I just don't see them dropping bama and having Sankey put hits out on their families.

If both BYU and Bama both lose, and ND and bama both get in, I don't think teh score of bama's loss matters - seeding will be dictated by the matchup they want to create for the 1st round.
Cristobal on cowherd with the Miami players one handed catch against us paused in the background.

Going about this totally different from Marcus
Maybe this shit works in the end but I prefer not seeing Freeman kick and scream like a child for a spot. Bad look. I appreciate the way MF has handled this so far.
 

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I still don't think the Boise game is getting factored into the equation enough.

IMO, a Boise win (SOS boost) means we only need 1 of BYU/Bama to lose. Though both still preferred just in case.
Imagine Bama loses the SECCG by a last second FG, BYU wins and the committee puts ND in over Bama. Then the committee’s mouthpiece strolls out and tells the good folks at ESPN that ND beating Boise, a conference champ, played a big role in the decision.

It might be enough to spark the second march on the North.
 

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Imagine Bama loses the SECCG by a last second FG, BYU wins and the committee puts ND in over Bama. Then the committee’s mouthpiece strolls out and tells the good folks at ESPN that ND beating Boise, a conference champ, played a big role in the decision.

It might be enough to spark the second march on the North.
Or the second Cuban revolution.
 

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If both BYU and Bama both lose, and ND and bama both get in, I don't think teh score of bama's loss matters - seeding will be dictated by the matchup they want to create for the 1st round.

Maybe this shit works in the end but I prefer not seeing Freeman kick and scream like a child for a spot. Bad look. I appreciate the way MF has handled this so far.
I think if BYU and Bama lose Bama would drop to 10 to avoid a rematch with OU or maybe they move OU around. I want to stay at 10 and play A&M, yes please.
 

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From this morning on Caesars:

ND from -500 to -400
Miami from +600 to +300

my cash out for Miami from my Wednesday bet is now making money.
 

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Fuck the committee deciding who goes where. Let the teams call their shots. How great would it be if on Sunday #1 Ohio State got to send a representative to a podium to pick which team out of the other 15 that had qualified they want to select to come face them in Columbus? Georgia is on the clock next they get 15 minutes before their representative selects.
I think we should send a messenger on horseback and he shoots a flaming arrow with a note on it
 

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Is there a realistic chance of Boise ending up ranked as 9-4 MWC champs? If so, ND would finish 3-2 vs ranked (W-USC, W-Navy, W-Boise State, L-Miami, L-Texas A&M). Miami would finish 1-0 (W-Notre Dame).
 

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There’s no way the ACC/B12/G5 will be ok with losing automatic bids. We just think they’re dumb because ND isn’t eligible to earn one. But independence comes with tradeoffs
I caught a portion of a Pate and Bussin’ with the boys segment on ESPN I think on Thursday. Pate said that they can’t get rid of the group of 5 auto bid due to anti trust laws. I’m not a lawyer nor a novice in anti trust laws, so I can’t verify if what he said was true.
 

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I caught a portion of a Pate and Bussin’ with the boys segment on ESPN I think on Thursday. Pate said that they can’t get rid of the group of 5 auto bid due to anti trust laws. I’m not a lawyer nor a novice in anti trust laws, so I can’t verify if what he said was true.
Group of 5 should play ten or eleven regular season games. Then the top 4 should play a 4 team playoff to get in
 

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“The national discourse is really changing”

*Posts the Miami based podcast who has been saying the same thing for a month*

"The discourse is going to really flip on ND" as if the Miami Crybaby Industrial Complex and basically all of sports media haven't been LOCKSTEP about "head to head being honored" for a month now. I mean for fuck's sake, Rece Davis has been trying to browbeat Hunter Yurachek into switching Miami and ND for weeks now.
 

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I caught a portion of a Pate and Bussin’ with the boys segment on ESPN I think on Thursday. Pate said that they can’t get rid of the group of 5 auto bid due to anti trust laws. I’m not a lawyer nor a novice in anti trust laws, so I can’t verify if what he said was true.
But there's no language that specifies which conferences get in, it just says "the five highest ranked conference champions" which is neutral as to who those conferences are and is anti-trust protection inherently. It was designed when there were 5 power conferences of course lol, but it doesn't naturally exclude any conference. They could limit it to the top two highest ranked conference champions getting autobids and so long as they are not actively excluding any conference from qualifying inherently from their language.
 

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Somewhat misleading....



CBS also wasn't included, so although the list above is more accurate, it's not completely accurate either.

Not surprising that SEC teams lead in viewership, but the gap in the original graphic was very misleading.

When you list Auburn as #8 in average viewership, it's time to call bullshit.

Any teams that played late games on the West Coast are harmed as well. This would probably impact Big Ten, Big 12 and ACC teams the most. Obviously it impacted Notre Dame with the Stanford game. SEC teams would seem to have no effect.
 

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"The discourse is going to really flip on ND" as if the Miami Crybaby Industrial Complex and basically all of sports media haven't been LOCKSTEP about "head to head being honored" for a month now. I mean for fuck's sake, Rece Davis has been trying to browbeat Hunter Yurachek into switching Miami and ND for weeks now.
Bruce Feldman, too, has written column after column in The Athletic about the indignity of it all. Without ever mentioning that he WENT TO MIAMI and wrote his first book about their football glory days.
I've always thought he was a smart reporter and one of the more insightful writers in the sport, but he's been around the bend on this one.
 

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You should require a non conference P4 win to be eligible for the CFP.

Guess who doesn’t have one? Duke, North Texas, James Madison, INDIANA, 2024 Boise State, Ole Miss, Virginia

Tulane actually does.
ND doesn’t either. Edit. I guess they have nothing but non conference wins. 🤷‍♂️
 
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