Mike Mickens ND CB’s Coach

stlnd01

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They can’t catch gimme interceptions.
We did drop about three picks last night.

I get coaching guys up, and scheme, but as some level this is a talent problem. Hobbs, Strohman, Talich are just big downgrades from what we had in those spots last year, and we’re playing good QBs who are picking on them.

At this point I’d play Tae and whatever freshmen have the highest upside. Can’t be much worse.
 

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If Mickens wasn’t the right fit before this season kicks off why do people think he will the answer moving forward now at 0-2?
I think people assume that the admin/Freeman misevaluated Mickens’ fit as a DC.

Out of curiousity, did we ever get an explanation on why the staff came to that conclusion?
 

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Maybe Scrap should have been scout WR instead of scout QB.

Not only did we give up 6 explosives, but there was opportunity for about 4-5 more they missed on.

A&Ms game plan seemed so simple, if ND Gray or Hobbs play tight at LOS, go deep, if they give you cushion, run a crosser.
 

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Maybe Scrap should have been scout WR instead of scout QB.

Not only did we give up 6 explosives, but there was opportunity for about 4-5 more they missed on.

A&Ms game plan seemed so simple, if ND Gray or Hobbs play tight at LOS, go deep, if they give you cushion, run a crosser.
Or see where Carr's feet and look to see if he puts his hands behind his back...

On offense: The defense looks confused...
 

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Another Mickens followup question. Mickens recruited/brought in these freshmen yes? Micken also coached them yes? If we dont have able bodied ready backups behind Shuler, Gray and Moore who's fault is that? Mickens or Ash?

100%.

When Freeman and Leonard Moore are saying guys aren’t playing with proper technique, I’m not sure how we can’t look at Mickens.

My thought today was this is his second year as CB and Safeties coach, but last year he had Watts (and B Mo) for overall leadership on Saturday and in practice. This is a new era on coaching up this entire secondary for him.

More than enough blame to share.
 

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When Freeman and Leonard Moore are saying guys aren’t playing with proper technique, I’m not sure how we can’t look at Mickens.

My thought today was this is his second year as CB and Safeties coach, but last year he had Watts (and B Mo) for overall leadership on Saturday and in practice. This is a new era on coaching up this entire secondary for him.

More than enough blame to share.
I've been thinking about this. I didn't love having one combined DB coach before, but with there being pretty big changes in the scheme, I really don't love only having one guy.

But that also means we don't know what the problem is which makes getting the solution more difficult. Is it that Mickens can't properly coach up both positions at once, that Mickens can't properly teach the new scheme, or that Mickens can't properly teach the scheme to a room as large as the combined DB room?

Similarly, are the young DBs not ready to play because they just aren't at the same level as guys like Moore and Morrison, does Mickens not have enough time to concentrate on bringing the young guys along, or is the new scheme just not getting through and they would be ready in a system like we had been running that young guys succeeded in?
 

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Zachery certainly didn’t look ready vs TA&M. Only played 4 snaps. Do they send him out there today? Hoping there’s a plan B
 

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When Freeman and Leonard Moore are saying guys aren’t playing with proper technique, I’m not sure how we can’t look at Mickens.

My thought today was this is his second year as CB and Safeties coach, but last year he had Watts (and B Mo) for overall leadership on Saturday and in practice. This is a new era on coaching up this entire secondary for him.

More than enough blame to share.
Has Mickens ever coached a secondary that didn't primarily play man? Early defenses when he came to ND? Feels like they were mostly man at Cincy with Sauce & Bryant
 

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As a Catholic it annoys me. I never use those words, but I try not to police other people. I just silently get frustrated.

I was an an idealist who held a crazy belief that since we’re a Catholic university, we shouldn’t be using those words.
 

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Why do people insist on using God’s name in vain. I don’t get it. Can’t people use another expletive like shit yeah!!!
Let me know when people stop making excuses to kill each other, stop fucking each other out of wed lock , stop coveting their neighbors possessions and spouses, stop judging each other, and maybe than I’ll give a shit about people using an expression that doesn’t even contain sky daddy’s name.
 

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Let me know when people stop making excuses to kill each other, stop fucking each other out of wed lock , stop coveting their neighbors possessions and spouses, stop judging each other, and maybe than I’ll give a shit about people using an expression that doesn’t even contain sky daddy’s name.
Leave Mike Mickens out of this.
 
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