2025 College Football Playoffs

burmafrd1944

Well-known member
Messages
303
Reaction score
284
There is another factor that the bedwetters are missing...

Notre Dame started out slow last year with that horrible loss to NIU in game two and then went on a tear that took them all the way to the championship game

Since we did it once, no reason why we cannot do it again and I think that is another factor the Committee is looking at.
 

allenm5333

Well-known member
Messages
2,545
Reaction score
2,526
There is another factor that the bedwetters are missing...

Notre Dame started out slow last year with that horrible loss to NIU in game two and then went on a tear that took them all the way to the championship game

Since we did it once, no reason why we cannot do it again and I think that is another factor the Committee is looking at.
We have earned some benefit of the doubt.
 

stlnd01

Was away. Now returned.
Messages
13,386
Reaction score
10,247
No offense to the Ole Miss players I know it's not really fair but if they're not dropped to the 11 seed with what appears to be a first time play caller and head coach I think that's wrong. Vegas seems to think it makes a difference so it should be considered. Honestly I think they should be locked in at the 11 seed and the 12 goes to the group of 5 winner.
You’d put them behind UVA? Thats rough.
 

IRISHDODGER

Blue Chip Recruit
Messages
8,044
Reaction score
6,108
Shame on the ACC for not putting stipulations in their conference bylaws to supersede teams who may qualify for CCG but too many losses to qualify for the CFP (like Duke). It would benefit all parties if Miami was in their CCG. Not to mention, they’re the only team from the ACC worthy of the CFP. I don’t want ND joining a conference w/ bylaws set up like that b/c ND could be in Miami’s shoes.
 

stlnd01

Was away. Now returned.
Messages
13,386
Reaction score
10,247
Shame on the ACC for not putting stipulations in their conference bylaws to supersede teams who may qualify for CCG but too many losses to qualify for the CFP (like Duke). It would benefit all parties if Miami was in their CCG. Not to mention, they’re the only team from the ACC worthy of the CFP. I don’t want ND joining a conference w/ bylaws set up like that b/c ND could be in Miami’s shoes.
It really makes too much sense. Can the ACC not simply dictate Miami takes Duke's place in the conference championship? Who exactly would complain?
 

Irishdawg

Well-known member
Messages
1,397
Reaction score
1,080
I know Bevacqua and MF have said they favor the football program’s independence but let’s just say worst case scenario if nothing breaks our way and we actually get left out of the CFP this year is that enough to have serious discussions about joining a conference? To be clear, I’m not even saying a like the idea but I’m just curious what some of you think.
Missing the CFP this year would be devastating (at least very disappointing) IMHO.
 

NorthDakota

Grandson of Loomis
Messages
15,696
Reaction score
5,996
Really curious what committee is going to do here with 1) ND of course but 2) with the SEC teams
 

IRISHDODGER

Blue Chip Recruit
Messages
8,044
Reaction score
6,108
As a sportsman I think it's gross to change rules for qualification (effective immediately) when you already had a system in place.
Fair but the lack of foresight from the powers that be incl Jim Philips; reflects poorly on their leadership. Hopefully, they learn from this year and amend the rules for qualification but that doesn’t help Miami this year.
 

thekid33

President of the Kevin McDougal Fan Club
Messages
2,463
Reaction score
4,140
I know Bevacqua and MF have said they favor the football program’s independence but let’s just say worst case scenario if nothing breaks our way and we actually get left out of the CFP this year is that enough to have serious discussions about joining a conference? To be clear, I’m not even saying a like the idea but I’m just curious what some of you think.
Missing the CFP this year would be devastating (at least very disappointing) IMHO.
Nobody is throwing away that tradition because it happens once. Now, if it happens several times over the course of a few years ...
 

Cackalacky2.0

Specimen
Messages
9,023
Reaction score
8,018
Shame on the ACC for not putting stipulations in their conference bylaws to supersede teams who may qualify for CCG but too many losses to qualify for the CFP (like Duke). It would benefit all parties if Miami was in their CCG. Not to mention, they’re the only team from the ACC worthy of the CFP. I don’t want ND joining a conference w/ bylaws set up like that b/c ND could be in Miami’s shoes.
Then why even have CCG in the first place? I think they get rid of them in the next two years anyway.
 

IrishSteelhead

All Flair, No Substance
Messages
11,114
Reaction score
4,686
Draft Kings does not have Bama listed anymore.

b82127f9877fc6cad87bcee226fc8e5c.jpg


For non-bettors, this means ND has an 80% chance of getting in, Miami 15% chance


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

GowerND11

Well-known member
Messages
6,536
Reaction score
3,287
Fair but the lack of foresight from the powers that be incl Jim Philips; reflects poorly on their leadership. Hopefully, they learn from this year and amend the rules for qualification but that doesn’t help Miami this year.
The lack of foresight came around when every conference decided they need 16-20 teams.
 

GowerND11

Well-known member
Messages
6,536
Reaction score
3,287
No offense to the Ole Miss players I know it's not really fair but if they're not dropped to the 11 seed with what appears to be a first time play caller and head coach I think that's wrong. Vegas seems to think it makes a difference so it should be considered. Honestly I think they should be locked in at the 11 seed and the 12 goes to the group of 5 winner.
I’ll say this, I know college football has always had a bunch of subjectivity. Bowl games, polls, etc.

With that said, I think that if they’re going to have a playoff, which is here and will continue, then something like what you say is wrong IMO. See my other post about how no other “league” punishes a team making the playoffs for injuries, coaches, etc. Yet here we are, clamoring for a team to drop spots while also happy there is a playoff because it’s supposed to be a more objective way to crown a champion.

That’s just me though.
 
Last edited:

bcole2

Well-known member
Messages
223
Reaction score
305
Draft Kings does not have Bama listed anymore.

b82127f9877fc6cad87bcee226fc8e5c.jpg


For non-bettors, this means ND has an 80% chance of getting in, Miami 15% chance


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
This is surprising to me. Vegas essentially is saying Bama is a lock regardless of the SECCG result, which means they would have to jump us this week which would go against what they have done the last few weeks. Last night's games did nothing to improve their metrics at all.
 

Bane

Well-known member
Messages
2,303
Reaction score
4,844
Fair but the lack of foresight from the powers that be incl Jim Philips; reflects poorly on their leadership. Hopefully, they learn from this year and amend the rules for qualification but that doesn’t help Miami this year.
People have been bitching about it this morning, but this is exactly why the Mountain West does their tie breaker based on analytics, to avoid a situation where their best team gets fucked out of the conference title game and maximize their ability to try and get a autobid. It's not perfect as 8-4 Boise ended up in the title game (and gets to host and will likely beat UNLV), but they at least had the forethinking to do this. The ACC doesn't seem to have the ability think more than a few seconds into the future.

I’ll say this, I know college football has always had a bunch of subjectivity. Bowl games, polls, etc.

With that said, I think that if they’re going to have a playoff, which is here and will continue, the. Something like what you say is wrong IMO. See my other post about how no other “league” punishes a team making the playoffs for injuries, coaches, etc. Yet here we are, clamoring for a team to drop spots while also happy there is a playoff because it’s supposed to be a more objective way to crown a champion.

That’s just me though.
No other sport has a voting process for their playoffs like CFB (other than I suppose, college basketball) though. It's totally fair to objectively evaluate that a team that lost it's HC and it's offensive playcaller is no longer among the 12 best teams in the country. Especially when said team is already in the 20s in overall talent composition and overperformed their potential in part based on a rather easy schedule and having great offensive coaching. Do I think they'll drop them all the way out? No, but I think they could look at it and move them down out of a hosting gig.
 

Dale

Well-known member
Messages
16,105
Reaction score
27,367
This is surprising to me. Vegas essentially is saying Bama is a lock regardless of the SECCG result, which means they would have to jump us this week which would go against what they have done the last few weeks. Last night's games did nothing to improve their metrics at all.

I don’t take it as that. Fanduel for example has OU and Ole Miss odds which are at ridiculous prices. I think they just truly don’t know where to make a market on it.
 

bcole2

Well-known member
Messages
223
Reaction score
305
I don’t take it as that. Fanduel for example has OU and Ole Miss odds which are at ridiculous prices. I think they just truly don’t know where to make a market on it.
I gotcha, that makes sense. I imagine it might get put back up after Tuesday because that ranking will be so consequential.
 

NDFAN2008

Well-known member
Messages
7,330
Reaction score
5,655
I think the committee has had ND as a lock for the last 3 weeks as long as they win out and they were hoping for some upsets. I think now it’s just a matter of them deciding which team they’ll disappoint. Bama could be the team that ends up being left out for a few reason. 1. They are ranked behind ND right now and still should be after barely getting by Auburn. The only way they jump us is beating Georgia, if they lose they can’t jump us. Theres no way to justify moving up a team who just lost.
2. Majority of the committee are former coaches, players or pathetic directors and they all are sick of Bama winning every title the last decade or being in the championship.
 

GowerND11

Well-known member
Messages
6,536
Reaction score
3,287
People have been bitching about it this morning, but this is exactly why the Mountain West does their tie breaker based on analytics, to avoid a situation where their best team gets fucked out of the conference title game and maximize their ability to try and get a autobid. It's not perfect as 8-4 Boise ended up in the title game (and gets to host and will likely beat UNLV), but they at least had the forethinking to do this. The ACC doesn't seem to have the ability think more than a few seconds into the future.


No other sport has a voting process for their playoffs like CFB (other than I suppose, college basketball) though. It's totally fair to objectively evaluate that a team that lost it's HC and it's offensive playcaller is no longer among the 12 best teams in the country. Especially when said team is already in the 20s in overall talent composition and overperformed their potential in part based on a rather easy schedule and having great offensive coaching. Do I think they'll drop them all the way out? No, but I think they could look at it and move them down out of a hosting gig.
I just think, much like the whole Miami/ND thing, even though we are all ND fans, what’s the point then, right? I mean, I know there’s a fuck ton of nuance with comparing Miami and ND, but I just have a real hard time swallowing the pill that a bunch of humans can say, hey you EARNED this ranking based on what we saw all year long, but now… fuck you because your coach is an absolute rat and troll.

Can’t tell me this is better than the BCS if that’s the case. And, granted, I have always thought the BCS was unfairly criticized.
 

NDPhilly

Philly Torqued
Messages
16,441
Reaction score
16,721
Another data point to consider - If Navy is ranked (as they are in the AP and Coaches poll), then we eviscerated a team ranked pretty much the same as GT and Mizzou 49-10.

That win would be the biggest win by any team over a ranked team this year. If they truly believed Navy / Mizzou / GT were equals, that would matter, a lot. Realistically they aren’t capable of truly believing that despite where they rank them.
 

TNUtoNotreDame

Voted must gracious poster for seven years running
Messages
3,129
Reaction score
2,965
I know Bevacqua and MF have said they favor the football program’s independence but let’s just say worst case scenario if nothing breaks our way and we actually get left out of the CFP this year is that enough to have serious discussions about joining a conference? To be clear, I’m not even saying a like the idea but I’m just curious what some of you think.
Missing the CFP this year would be devastating (at least very disappointing) IMHO.
it will take multiple years of being left out for us to make a move.
 

bcole2

Well-known member
Messages
223
Reaction score
305
It sucks that Oklahoma beat Alabama even though they only had 212 yards of offense. We would have still been #9 but would only have to worry about BYU and Miami and even could deal with 1 passing us. I really hope the committee sees how bad the Oklahoma offense has been week after week and rewards our consistency and overall dominance over the past 10 games.
 

FWIrish4

Well-known member
Messages
1,408
Reaction score
2,833
Another data point to consider - If Navy is ranked (as they are in the AP and Coaches poll), then we eviscerated a team ranked pretty much the same as GT and Mizzou 49-10.

That win would be the biggest win by any team over a ranked team this year. If they truly believed Navy / Mizzou / GT were equals, that would matter, a lot. Realistically they aren’t capable of truly believing that despite where they rank them.
They have to be right? The backend of last week’s ranking basically all lost. There’s 5 spots for Navy to fill 1. I would think it should and will happen.

Here’s who lost this weekend:
#19 Tennessee
#20 Arizona St
#21 SMU
#22 Pitt
#23 Georgia Tech
 
Top