2025 College Football Playoffs

[BigErnMcCracken]

ND can only blame ND. Just had to split the first two games. Resume isn’t going to hold up down the stretch and honestly it probably shouldn’t.

Compared to whom?

 

[DillonHall]

Some of you are way too comfortable for how “on the bubble” we are 😂

A few weeks ago, I thought we needed 2 of the 3 to happen - Texas loss (lost to Georgia), Oklahoma loss (but they beat Bama), BYU undefeated as B12 champ (lost to Texas Tech). We've only gotten one so far and it's definitely in the realm of possibility that we get left out

 

[MacIrish75]

Not that it changes the gameplan a ton, or that we obviously still want to beat Furd by a fiddy piece…but playing at 10:30 allows us to understand the entire landscape of the day.

 

[DillonHall]

If Miami beats Pitt, Oklahoma beats LSU, Oregon beats Washington, and Alabama beats Auburn, it's going to be a very uneasy week leading up to the final rankings, regardless of what happens in the championship games

A Michigan win over OSU or Vandy over Tennessee this week would further complicate matters, not to mention BYU beating Texas Tech in a rematch next week

 

[rikkitikki08]

The committee won’t leave out a ND team who’s on a 10 game winning streak who essentially has blown out everyone. Assuming we take care of business tonight. The committee sees how different this team looks compared to the first two weeks of the season. ND is passing the eye ball test

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

If Miami beats Pitt, Oklahoma beats LSU, Oregon beats Washington, and Alabama beats Auburn, it's going to be a very uneasy week leading up to the final rankings, regardless of what happens in the championship games

A Michigan win over OSU or Vandy over Tennessee this week would further complicate matters, not to mention BYU beating Texas Tech in a rematch next week

Vandy isn't passing us, OSU is due to beat Michigan, and Alabama is due to lose to Georgia in the SECCG if they survive Auburn. Relax and enjoy the process.

 

[irish4ever]

Is Texas not a concern at all?

with 3 losses? To overtake the Irish .... NO

 

[rtrn2glory]

Pat is missed

 

[irish4ever]

LSU beating OU somehow or Washington beating Oregon still in play.

Best opportunity lies here, IMO. Go Huskies!

 

[DillonHall]

Vandy isn't passing us, OSU is due to beat Michigan, and Alabama is due to lose to Georgia in the SECCG if they survive Auburn. Relax and enjoy the process.

ND vs Vandy would be very interesting debate. 10-2 Bama shouldn't be punished much for losing the SEC championship game. We're assuming OSU is going to win, but a loss would just throw another wrench into the equation

 

[Kingbish01]

I'll start by saying I have zero doubt a 10-2 ND is left out.

But...I was at a party last night and some guys were talking football and I was asked who NDs biggest wins were....after answering USC/Pitt and Navy....They laughed and asked me if I'm hearing myself. It is a bummer they blew their best two tests of the year, and if the committee fucks them...nobody to blame but themselves.

I'm sharing this to give outside fan base perspective, as I hope the committee doesn't look at them like that.

 

[DillonHall]

I'll start by saying I have zero doubt a 10-2 ND is left out.

But...I was at a party last night and some guys were talking football and I was asked who NDs biggest wins were....after answering USC/Pitt and Navy....They laughed and asked me if I'm hearing myself. It is a bummer they blew their best two tests of the year, and if the committee fucks them...nobody to blame but themselves.

I'm sharing this to give outside fan base perspective, as I hope the committee doesn't look at them like that.

I think most would agree ND is easily a top 10 team right now, but it doesn't mean we have a top 10 resume. It's bemusing to me when fans think they know what the committee will do. The sample size is one year and there are new precedents every year, not to mention the committee members are different. It's almost akin to guessing how a jury is going to decide a legal case

 

[Kingbish01]

I think most would agree ND is easily a top 10 team right now, but it doesn't mean we have a top 10 resume. It's bemusing to me when fans think they know what the committee will do. The sample size is one year and there are new precedents every year, not to mention the committee members are different. It's almost akin to guessing how a jury is going to decide a legal case

Every year it seems the committee likes to have a storyline when it's all said and done and I just hope Notre Dame is not this year's FSU. I'm also a firm believer that the brand is too big and it's all about money. And it may feed the hate against Notre Dame but it's true, can't leave them out... too many eyes want to watch.

 

[T Town Tommy]

A 10-2 Notre Dame isn’t getting left out of the playoffs. People can debate records, opponents, eye test, whatever. The committee has been very clear that they believe the Irish belong.

 

[NDMatt91]

If Miami beats Pitt, Oklahoma beats LSU, Oregon beats Washington, and Alabama beats Auburn, it's going to be a very uneasy week leading up to the final rankings, regardless of what happens in the championship games

A Michigan win over OSU or Vandy over Tennessee this week would further complicate matters, not to mention BYU beating Texas Tech in a rematch next week

I agree with everything outside of Vandy beating Tennessee. Vandy isn't a threat, IMO. Unfortunately, I expect all of Miami, Oklahoma, Oregon, and Alabama to win today.

 

[Kingbish01]

A 10-2 Notre Dame isn’t getting left out of the playoffs. People can debate records, opponents, eye test, whatever. The committee has been very clear that they believe the Irish belong.

I 100% agree

 

[stlnd01]

ND vs Vandy would be very interesting debate. 10-2 Bama shouldn't be punished much for losing the SEC championship game. We're assuming OSU is going to win, but a loss would just throw another wrench into the equation

What would be interesting about Vanderbilt? Nice story but their best win is Missouri with a hurt quarterback, and they got routed by Bama. We would floor them.

 

[arrowryan]

I'll start by saying I have zero doubt a 10-2 ND is left out.

But...I was at a party last night and some guys were talking football and I was asked who NDs biggest wins were....after answering USC/Pitt and Navy....They laughed and asked me if I'm hearing myself. It is a bummer they blew their best two tests of the year, and if the committee fucks them...nobody to blame but themselves.

I'm sharing this to give outside fan base perspective, as I hope the committee doesn't look at them like that.

I absolutely understand the outsider’s perspective. The A&M outcome is just as puzzling as the OSU 2023 outcome. They made an extremely mid QB in Marcel Rees look like a first round pick.

If weird stuff happens today and every break goes against the Irish, they have nothing to do except blame themselves.

They played an extremely conservative, “play not to lose” offense against Miami and played had their worst defensive performance since 2016 against A&M.

 

[DillonHall]

What would be interesting about Vanderbilt? Nice story but their best win is Missouri with a hurt quarterback, and they got routed by Bama. We would floor them.

ND would definitely have the edge, but the resumes aren't that different. Their best wins would be Mizzou and Tennessee. Our best would be 3-loss USC. Pitt might be unranked if they lose to Miami

 

[Kingbish01]

What would be interesting about Vanderbilt? Nice story but their best win is Missouri with a hurt quarterback, and they got routed by Bama. We would floor them.

Vandy is irrelevant in all this, doesn't matter what happens against Tennessee. As of right now (kind of like ND) Vandys best win is a close loss to Texas which got more impressive after last night. Vandy isn't a serious contender for the playoffs.

 

[stlnd01]

ND would definitely have the edge, but the resumes aren't that different. Their best wins would be Mizzou and Tennessee. Our best would be 3-loss USC. Pitt might be unranked if they lose to Miami

Resumes and Clark Lea’s exceptional coaching aside, Vandy just doesn’t have the horses to win playoff games.

And I guess I just don’t think the committee is all that interested in Cinderellas. Nor in having six SEC teams at the expense of other big-time and equally qualified teams like Notre Dame, Miami or (potentially) Michigan.

 

[Kingbish01]

I absolutely understand the outsider’s perspective. The A&M outcome is just as puzzling as the OSU 2023 outcome. They made an extremely mid QB in Marcel Rees look like a first round pick.

If weird stuff happens today and every break goes against the Irish, they have nothing to do except blame themselves.

They played an extremely conservative, “play not to lose” offense against Miami and played had their worst defensive performance since 2016 against A&M.

Bingo

But I'll say this and maybe it's because I'm die hard or maybe I should wait until after the OSU/Mich game. I think ND is the 2nd best team in the country after OSU. Period the end.

The outside fan base perspective is similar to Ohio State's as they like to say "we have no idea if Notre Dame is that good as some teams have been playing men and Notre Dame has been playing boys". So all the metrics don't mean anything unless all teams played the same schedule. Which I understand, Texas has a gripe ..they are in with ND if they didn't schedule OSU.

 

[DillonHall]

Resumes and Clark Lea’s exceptional coaching aside, Vandy just doesn’t have the horses to win playoff games.

And I guess I just don’t think the committee is all that interested in Cinderellas. Nor in having six SEC teams at the expense of other big-time and equally qualified teams like Notre Dame, Miami or (potentially) Michigan.

I would agree with all of this. They'd be in the discussion but calling the comparison "very interesting" was wrong

 

[InKellyWeTrust]

Every top 10 team except Ohio St and ND have had very close games which went their way. Bama should have lost to S Car. Georgia should have lost to Auburn and others. A&M had multiple such games. Oregon had Iowa and PSU. Ole Miss had Arkansas, LSU, and Wash St (you read that right). ND lost its only 2 close games and rolled the rest of the schedule. These rankings aren't put together with myopic viewpoints or archaic formulas, they look at all the information available. All losses aren't equal just as all wins aren't either. ND is not getting left out.

 

[Kingbish01]

A lot of people seem to think if BYU beats TT that would knock ND out. I think if BYU beats TT, that knocks TT out and I don't see the debate.

 

[stlnd01]

A lot of people seem to think if BYU beats TT that would knock ND out. I think if BYU beats TT, that knocks TT out and I don't see the debate.

I agree with you, but hard to envision dropping a team from #5 all the way out. Especially when most of the teams they’re falling past didn’t even play.

 

[irishff1014]

A lot of people seem to think if BYU beats TT that would knock ND out. I think if BYU beats TT, that knocks TT out and I don't see the debate.

Game day crew was saying they get 2 spots if this happens.

This is why the scheduling of both Miami and Texas A&M that early doesn’t make sense.

I don’t want to see it happen but IMO this could be the way college football forces ND to join a conference.

 

[Bane]

My receipt list is getting pretty lengthy.

You're keeping receipts on a ND message board on ND fans who think ND will be in the playoffs? I have to say man, you come across like you almost want us to miss the playoffs so you can be "right." In my prior professional life I worked with a lot of addicts and saw a similar self fulfilling prophecy mindset.

 

[Kingbish01]

Game day crew was saying they get 2 spots if this happens.

This is why the scheduling of both Miami and Texas A&M that early doesn’t make sense.

I don’t want to see it happen but IMO this could be the way college football forces ND to join a conference.

I said that at the party last night too. This could be their way of almost forcing NDs hand. I think Auburn has the same chance to beat Bama as BYU does beating TT. So I doubt that scenario plays out.

 

[Kingbish01]

A two loss ND with an AVG margin of victory at 30 points...With a Heisman candidate and the hottest coach in the game....DOES NOT GET LEFT OUT

Put this at the top of MY receipt.