Marcus Freeman named Dick Corbett Head Football Coach

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You nailed it. We live in an attention economy and ND content generates clicks, especially if it makes people scared (Freeman could leave) or angry (ND is a stepping stone) regardless of the truth or facts.

Enjoy the moment, nothing lasts forever!
Yeah, I personally have loved the Coach Freeman experience and it has rejuvenated my fandom to a level I never thought I'd care about ND football at again in my lifetime.
This site and the information provided for free helps with that as well.

He is a hot commodity with a young family that I'm sure he wants to provide generational wealth for.
If Florida truly offers him something crazy like $15M per year for (7-10) seasons guaranteed or something like that, then who am I to question why he would take it if ND chooses they're not able to match.

I'm just going to enjoy his time here one week at a time, and just enjoy the ride.
It feels amazing to watch his product every week as an ND fan born in 1991, that has seen some terrible football over the years.
 

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Today's clip is much worse.
Weird to say Brian Kelly used ND as a stepping stone to the SEC when he was here for 12 years.

If Marcus Freeman truly feels that Florida is a better job then ND right now, then I wish him all the luck.
The judgement that would show would make me think twice if he is the right person to guide this program into the next decade.

Of course, I don't believe he thinks that...but talking heads need to feed the 24/7 news cycle.

Who is that guy talking? On what authority is he saying that stuff about Freeman?
 

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The fact that Ryan Day was nearly run out of town after going 10-2 last year (pre-playoffs obviously), was getting death threats, and his kids were made fun of in school (a Catholic school btw) is pretty shocking. I haven't heard of anything like that happening at ND, even to coaches who were far less successful than Day. I know every fanbase has some nutcases in it, but yikes.
I for one have never heard anyone on IE say an irrational, incoherent, nutty thing in my life.
 

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I for one have never heard anyone on IE say an irrational, incoherent, nutty thing in my life.
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Who is that guy talking? On what authority is he saying that stuff about Freeman?
He has been a producer for the LeBatard Show for the past decade.
He is also now the co owner of the Canes Insider forum (CanesInSight) for Miami

He speaks about sources that he has within college football on the regular on the show.
Earlier in this thread I spoke about him publicly stating that Cristobal was going to be hired by Miami before any national reporter, and also Messi signing with Inter Miami, which was shocking at the time in the soccer world.

He is a dick in the highest order, and one of the main reasons I'm not a daily listener of the show anymore, but to his credit he does seem to have some knowledgeable friends within the college football world and sports world at large.

Albeit, mostly for Miami FL centric news.
 

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Today's clip is much worse.
Weird to say Brian Kelly used ND as a stepping stone to the SEC when he was here for 12 years.

If Marcus Freeman truly feels that Florida is a better job then ND right now, then I wish him all the luck.
The judgement that would show would make me think twice if he is the right person to guide this program into the next decade.

Of course, I don't believe he thinks that...but talking heads need to feed the 24/7 news cycle.

Hilarious that Lebatard conceptualized Meadowlark as an inclusive media company but has steadily alienated all female talent.
 

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I think so. 3-4 of those teams might have new head coaches. Still tough road environments.

Probably all night games, too. Marcus gets a handful of those a year at ND tops.

The SEC 9 game conference schedule isn't entirely a picnic.
 

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I think we have a 50%+ chance of winning a natty in the next 5 years if we keep everything together, which I never thought I’d say lol. We truly had the second best team in the country last year (confirmed by the advanced metrics) and are again a top 2-5 power rated team. And team talent is only going to get better.
 

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The fact that Ryan Day was nearly run out of town after going 10-2 last year (pre-playoffs obviously), was getting death threats, and his kids were made fun of in school (a Catholic school btw) is pretty shocking. I haven't heard of anything like that happening at ND, even to coaches who were far less successful than Day. I know every fanbase has some nutcases in it, but yikes.

Not so sure about that....

Charlie Weis and family experienced a lot of shit from ND fans as he started to tank and immediately after his firing - Just go to Google AI mode and search on "Charlie Weis didn't like the way Notre Dame Fans treated his family"

(Of course, this is because a guy who publicly stated he had a "schematic advantage" enabling ND to win and was paid tens of millions of $s, was tanking on the field and in the W-L columns.)

From this ESPN story:

"By the end, fans were grumbling to Maura at the drugstore. Kids were taunting Charlie Jr. at school. The neighbors stopped inviting them to the neighborhood Christmas party. Before his final season, in '09, a billboard appeared in South Bend, paid for mostly by Tom Reynolds, a former Notre Dame reserve linebacker: BEST WISHES TO CHARLIE WEIS IN THE 5TH YEAR OF HIS COLLEGE COACHING INTERNSHIP. After what turned out to be the final home game Weis coached, a 33-30 double-overtime loss to Connecticut, the family came home to 14 for-sale signs in their yard."

"Charlie Jr. was on track to enroll at Notre Dame. Weis says Jenkins himself had promised that he would be accepted, as long as his grades and test scores qualified, which they did. But after Weis was fired, Notre Dame sent a letter deferring Charlie Jr.'s acceptance. Not long after that, Weis says, he got a call from someone in Notre Dame's development office making him an offer: If he'd donate some of the money Notre Dame owed him back to the school -- "seven figures," Weis says -- Charlie Jr. could get in.

Weis said no. Charlie Jr. ended up enrolling at Florida when Weis was offensive coordinator there for a year. Then he followed his father to Kansas."

"Weis says he asked Swarbrick for a favor when he was fired. He didn't think Notre Dame's previous two coaches, Bob Davie and Tyrone Willingham, had been treated well after they left. He recalls the conversation: "This is my alma mater. I put my blood, sweat and tears into fixing this place. I go, I really don't want to be treated like s---. He (Swarbrick) goes, You will always be family."

Weis pauses.

"The guy's never said another word to me."

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Former Notre Dame head football coach Charlie Weis stated that
some Notre Dame fans treated his family poorly during his tenure. After his firing in 2009, news outlets highlighted the negative experiences faced by his wife, Maura, and their children, especially regarding their special-needs daughter, Hannah.
Details surrounding the fan treatment:
  • Focus on his daughter. Negative comments and rumors were reportedly spread about Weis's daughter, Hannah, who has global developmental delays. For instance, a 2009 New York Times article mentioned fans attacking his family and his wife's efforts with their charity, Hannah and Friends.
  • Targeting his son. Weis's son, Charlie Jr., was also affected. As a teenager, he was highly visible on the sidelines at Notre Dame practices and games, which was reportedly met with disapproval by many in the Irish fan base.
  • Resentment from Weis. In a 2016 ESPN interview, Weis revealed that a representative from the university's development office had tried to pressure him into donating his own money back to the school to help his son's chances of admission. Weis refused, and his son ultimately attended another university. In the interview, Weis also shared that he and his wife would toast "to old Notre Dame" every time a buyout check arrived.
  • Personal attacks. According to reports after his firing, Weis and his family were targets of personal insults, with some fans using his family to express their frustration with his coaching. In a 2015 interview with ND Insider, Weis said, "They can judge my coaching and recruiting however they want. That is their right as fans. But to judge you as a person without knowing who you are, I never thought that was right".
 

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He has been a producer for the LeBatard Show for the past decade.
He is also now the co owner of the Canes Insider forum (CanesInSight) for Miami

He speaks about sources that he has within college football on the regular on the show.
Earlier in this thread I spoke about him publicly stating that Cristobal was going to be hired by Miami before any national reporter, and also Messi signing with Inter Miami, which was shocking at the time in the soccer world.

He is a dick in the highest order, and one of the main reasons I'm not a daily listener of the show anymore, but to his credit he does seem to have some knowledgeable friends within the college football world and sports world at large.

Albeit, mostly for Miami FL centric news.
So probably he has sources on the Florida side of things, but not Freeman. Everybody's pretty much acknowledged Florida is going to try to talk to Freeman. Anything else seems like speculation on his part.
 

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So probably he has sources on the Florida side of things, but not Freeman. Everybody's pretty much acknowledged Florida is going to try to talk to Freeman. Anything else seems like speculation on his part.
My two cents is everyone can be telling the truth here.

Florida is taking a run or took a run at Freeman either this week or very recently.
Florida offered to make Freeman the highest paid coach in the sport, currently Kirby at $13M
Reportedly, Florida has offered or is offering Freeman / Kiffin $15M

Freeman's agent spoke with Florida representatives about this, because it is literally the job.
Freeman was presented the offer, and has reportedly said no.
They have moved on to other candidates as On3 reported yesterday and other outlets.

I'm personally offended at the idea that he is saying Florida is currently a better job (stepping stone comment) then ND.
I don't believe in this new NIL / Rev sharing world to be the case.
 

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He has been a producer for the LeBatard Show for the past decade.
He is also now the co owner of the Canes Insider forum (CanesInSight) for Miami

He speaks about sources that he has within college football on the regular on the show.
Earlier in this thread I spoke about him publicly stating that Cristobal was going to be hired by Miami before any national reporter, and also Messi signing with Inter Miami, which was shocking at the time in the soccer world.

He is a dick in the highest order, and one of the main reasons I'm not a daily listener of the show anymore, but to his credit he does seem to have some knowledgeable friends within the college football world and sports world at large.

Albeit, mostly for Miami FL centric news.
What's his name?

And it sounds like he is super plugged in to Florida and some of what he said seemed accurate but other parts he said quite authoritatively I know to be untrue.
 

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My two cents is everyone can be telling the truth here.

Florida is taking a run or took a run at Freeman either this week or very recently.
Florida offered to make Freeman the highest paid coach in the sport, currently Kirby at $13M
Reportedly, Florida has offered or is offering Freeman / Kiffin $15M

Freeman's agent spoke with Florida representatives about this, because it is literally the job.
Freeman was presented the offer, and has reportedly said no.
They have moved on to other candidates as On3 reported yesterday and other outlets.

I'm personally offended at the idea that he is saying Florida is currently a better job (stepping stone comment) then ND.
I don't believe in this new NIL / Rev sharing world to be the case.
Florida seems like the new "University of Leverage". All the good coaches will talk to them to get a raise, but only a stupid, bad coach would actually take the job.
 

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He has been a producer for the LeBatard Show for the past decade.
He is also now the co owner of the Canes Insider forum (CanesInSight) for Miami

He speaks about sources that he has within college football on the regular on the show.
Earlier in this thread I spoke about him publicly stating that Cristobal was going to be hired by Miami before any national reporter, and also Messi signing with Inter Miami, which was shocking at the time in the soccer world.

He is a dick in the highest order, and one of the main reasons I'm not a daily listener of the show anymore, but to his credit he does seem to have some knowledgeable friends within the college football world and sports world at large.

Albeit, mostly for Miami FL centric news.
Dude is a giant try hard. His downfall from quick witted producer into egotistical shitlib correlated with the show being unlistenable.
 

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Florida seems like the new "University of Leverage". All the good coaches will talk to them to get a raise, but only a stupid, bad coach would actually take the job.
15 years of proof it isn't the powerhouse year in and year out program it was under Urban when he had all the financial and recruiting advantages that aren't realistic anymore in the current format of college football landscape.
Freeman is twice the coach / program builder of the (4) on this list, but it isn't the guaranteed success that thier fans think it is.
I personally believe Freeman knows this, and won't entertain leaving ND for Florida.

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Dude is a giant try hard. His downfall from quick witted producer into egotistical shitlib correlated with the show being unlistenable.
I don't listen to the show and had never seen that guy before so I was surprised he talked with that level of authority -- talking as if things are fact not opinion -- but also that a LOT of what he said was correct. Florida absolutely called Freeman's agent, made a crazy verbal offer, and Freeman said he wasn't interested. Penn State did something similar. Everything I have heard is that Freeman would only leave ND for the NFL or under-the-right-circumstances Ohio State as long as he feels he is being treated well at ND and paid fairly.

The comments on the "stepping stone" thing -- citing BK leaving for LSU as the only evidence -- were laughably offbase though. Kelly got a deal from LSU that ND was not willing to make, it's that simple. Kelly also had an extremely rocky relationship with both the administration and the fanbase at large and knew things had basically run their course. Acting like ND is a "mid major" where any HC is looking for greener pastures as a default is legit stupid and not supported by anything that has ever happened at ND over 100+ years of football. Saying Freeman will be out there looking for a new school as soon as ND drops another game is just 0% true. Keeping it real, our nightmare scenario is that he somehow gets an enticing NFL offer... he is intrigued by the NFL because it's the pinnacle of the sport and he didn't really get to play in the pros as much as he could've because of his health problems.
 

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Who were they talking to on the show? Were they pretending to the audience that Jess is still on staff? That was really weird.
 

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I don't listen to the show and had never seen that guy before so I was surprised he talked with that level of authority -- talking as if things are fact not opinion -- but also that a LOT of what he said was correct. Florida absolutely called Freeman's agent, made a crazy verbal offer, and Freeman said he wasn't interested. Penn State did something similar. Everything I have heard is that Freeman would only leave ND for the NFL or under-the-right-circumstances Ohio State as long as he feels he is being treated well at ND and paid fairly.

The comments on the "stepping stone" thing -- citing BK leaving for LSU as the only evidence -- were laughably offbase though. Kelly got a deal from LSU that ND was not willing to make, it's that simple. Kelly also had an extremely rocky relationship with both the administration and the fanbase at large and knew things had basically run their course. Acting like ND is a "mid major" where any HC is looking for greener pastures as a default is legit stupid and not supported by anything that has ever happened at ND over 100+ years of football. Saying Freeman will be out there looking for a new school as soon as ND drops another game is just 0% true. Keeping it real, our nightmare scenario is that he somehow gets an enticing NFL offer... he is intrigued by the NFL because it's the pinnacle of the sport and he didn't really get to play in the pros as much as he could've because of his health problems.

Realistically based off your intel, what do you think the odds are that he leaves for the NFL if they come calling? How about Ohio State? Is there any change to the odds if he wins a championship?
 

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Realistically based off your intel, what do you think the odds are that he leaves for the NFL if they come calling? How about Ohio State? Is there any change to the odds if he wins a championship?
Usually there are ~7 head coaching vacancies in the NFL each year and historically less than 10% of openings go to a college coach. So the odds are that maybe 1 total college HC will get snagged by the NFL, and then you have to ask yourself what are the odds that it's a defensive minded guy with no NFL coaching experience? Just at first blush the odds seem very low, unless it's someone who really likes Marcus for some unique reason.
 

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Realistically based off your intel, what do you think the odds are that he leaves for the NFL if they come calling? How about Ohio State? Is there any change to the odds if he wins a championship?
Ohio State is likely in his future. He’s not even 40. Sadly, I’d put money on it. Hope he wins a title for us first.
 

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Honestly, if MF wins ND a Natty in the next few years and then heads off to OSU shortly thereafter, I would have a deep pit in my stomach, especially if ND then had to play them again in a CFP game. 😥

I’d much prefer to see him go to The NFL (of course, to my Dallas Cowboys!) than to OSU or any other College team.
 

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I don’t see OSU as even a possibility at the moment. Day is only 6 years older than MF and is fresh off of a natty. He’s not going anywhere and I don’t think he cares about the NFL.

I think the NFL is the only real potential threat. If he does go there I hope he’s very picky because if you don’t have a franchise QB “Not For Long” is quite literal.
 

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How many current NFL head coaches aren’t offensive coaches? How many haven’t been NFL coordinators?
 

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How many current NFL head coaches aren’t offensive coaches? How many haven’t been NFL coordinators?
The NFL skews offense heavy for sure. All of the well performing teams over the past several years have been run by offensive guys.
 
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